Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-19 Thread John Whittingham
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:25:34 -0600, William Robb wrote - Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread John Whittingham
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:32:06 -0600, William Robb wrote So, on Lawrences recommendation, I went and fiddled with the AF offset, and decided that at distance, the camera now had some front focus issues. A few tweaks later, and now I have neutral focus at distance, but the camera will now have

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread David J Brooks
I'v been reading these AF tweaking posts closly, and have to agree with Godfrey. I'm not going to do anything to my K10D. It seem crisp enough with the 16-45(better that with the istD)and 50-200. Besides i can screw up a light bulb replacement, so it was a givin.:-) Dave On 3/17/07, Godfrey

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I'v been reading these AF tweaking posts closly, and have to agree with Godfrey. I'm not going to do anything to my K10D. It seem crisp enough with the 16-45(better that with the istD)and 50-200. Besides i

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread P. J. Alling
You stop that right now young man or you'll go blind. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I'v been reading these AF tweaking posts closly, and have to agree with Godfrey. I'm not going to do anything to my K10D. It seem

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread John Celio
I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera is spot-on. Are there really any benefits to checking focus with other lenses if

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread David J Brooks
On 3/18/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. I donated a dollar to Jerry;s Squids the other day. Dave Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open)

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm f2.8 macro (shot wide open) and it looks like my camera

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread John Whittingham
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:25:34 -0600, William Robb wrote - Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I tested my K10D's focusing accuracy a couple nights ago. I figured it was fine, but I did it just for the hallibut. Fishy puns aside, I used my D-FA 100mm

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Whittingham wrote: WTF is depth of focus? Depth of focus is the behind the lens analogue of depth of field. Whereas depth of field is the depth of the plane of focus in front of the lens (where the subject of your photograph is), depth of focus is the depth of the plane *inside* the

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other lenses yet, that will be my project for tomorrow. There have been

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread John Whittingham
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:27:24 -0400 (EDT), Lawrence Kwan wrote On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus with any other

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread Thibouille
William, I did not follow the whole thread but some at DpReview managed to hack the header of the firmware allowing one to downgrade from 1.11 to 1.10 (in fact 1.10 with hacked header) and then official 1.10 firmware. One may like or dislike the method but thought I should mention the

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Bill, On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600, William Robb wrote: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera.

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: I downloaded a chart that some guy with a D70 made. It's printed off on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I used the 31mm, at about a 2 or so foot range. I haven't checked focus

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode William, I did not follow the whole thread but some at DpReview managed to hack the header of the firmware allowing one to downgrade from 1.11 to 1.10 (in fact 1.10 with hacked header) and then official 1.10 firmware

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Whittingham Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode Ah, now that's the chart I have that I mistakenly thought William was using. I'm very curious now, focus shifting between 14mm and 31mm, I think my K10D may get seriously interfered

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
For anyone interested, here is a link to the focus chart and instructions that I used. http://www.focustestchart.com/chart.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jan van Wijk Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I would assume testing with fast glass is best ... I'll be hauling the 50/1.4 out today William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, William Robb wrote: Initially, I used the 31, and got it looking good, then switched to the 14, and discovered the error was still there, so I adjusted until the 14 was good, and restested the 31, which was also still good. Have you checked whether your adjustment has

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode Initially, I used the 31, and got it looking good, then switched to the 14, and discovered the error was still there, so I adjusted until the 14 was good, and restested the 31, which was also still good. Have

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
So, on Lawrences recommendation, I went and fiddled with the AF offset, and decided that at distance, the camera now had some front focus issues. A few tweaks later, and now I have neutral focus at distance, but the camera will now have some back focus, though not as much as when I started, at

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
After seeing all the hubbub with this stuff on DPReview.com, I decided to leave my camera alone and do the fw 1.11 update. The AF is close enough and produces excellent results. If I really need critical focusing, I focus manually and use a focusing magnifier. It only makes sense if I'm

K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb
Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera. Now my camera's AF focuses better. Interestingly, I could see

RE: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread Tom C
@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10 Debug Mode Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600 Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600, William Robb wrote Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed with the instructions and a focus chart I downloaded a while back, decided to adjust the camera.

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Whittingham Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:59:22 -0600, William Robb wrote Hi: Bravery overcame foolishness, and I decided to check how accurate my K10 was for focus accuracy. It turns out, not very. So, armed

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread Rick Womer
I appear to have missed something. Does the updated firmware lack the calibration mode? --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: K10 Debug Mode Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable, sad that it comes that way... out

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: K10 Debug Mode Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable, sad that it comes that way... out of calibration so to speak. Is the focus adjusted at just one distance from the focal plane or is it done at varying distances? I downloaded

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: [...] as often happens, theory and practicality don't mesh, so I will be doing some more checking tomorrow. What's the difference between theory and practice? In theory, there's no difference. In practice, there is. :-) Got that one from a somewhat philosophical comp

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode I appear to have missed something. Does the updated firmware lack the calibration mode? It doesn't necessarrily lack it, but they changed the way you get to it to prevent people from accessing it. William Robb

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb
Ok, it's still light enough here that I was able to do some more testing. I put the 14/2.8 on the camera and did a focus test with it. Totally out of whack, though in the same direction as I was moving with the 31mm. So, I did another adjust until the 14 looked good, and tried again with the 31.

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread David Savage
Just out of curiosity which way was it out + or -? Cheers, Dave On 3/17/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, it's still light enough here that I was able to do some more testing. I put the 14/2.8 on the camera and did a focus test with it. Totally out of whack, though in the same

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: K10 Debug Mode Just out of curiosity which way was it out + or -? It was out on the - side. I made a rather large + correction, 180 um to get it to where I was happy. It's funny, I've not thought this camera was doing as well

Re: K10 Debug Mode

2007-03-16 Thread P. J. Alling
You are correct. Rick Womer wrote: I appear to have missed something. Does the updated firmware lack the calibration mode? --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: K10 Debug Mode Interesting. Nice that it's adjustable