the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:33 PM
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From: Raimo K
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All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Then what would those experts CALL
failed to catch my
error. Tsk, tsk...
On the other hand, I'm not trying to impress anyone, merely be correct.
Raimo K
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From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Then what
Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
On 18 Oct 2004 at 23:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I don't think outside the box when inside the box is the preferred
method.
I cant think of a single instance where I have read
anything regarding optical distortion where they were
Surely you can't
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From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
I'm not being closed minded, I'm being correct on the matter.
Distortion abberations are interchangable optical terms.
distortion is one particular
7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Stop laughing. Distortion is not an aberration. By distortion you describe
a
situation when e.g. straight lines are not reproduced straight.
Distortion: Causes image of window frame (for example) to bow out (barrel
type) or in (pincushion type
On 19 Oct 2004 at 8:53, Raimo K wrote:
Stop laughing. Distortion is not an aberration. By distortion you describe a
situation when e.g. straight lines are not reproduced straight. Distortion:
Causes image of window frame (for example) to bow out (barrel type) or in
(pincushion type), but does
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Stop laughing. Distortion is not an aberration. By distortion you describe
a
situation when e.g. straight lines are not reproduced straight.
Distortion: Causes image of window frame (for example) to bow out (barrel
type) or in (pincushion type
- Original Message -
From: Raimo K
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
You are mixing things up. Distortion is not an aberration. There
are meny
types of aberrations - like chromatic aberrations, coma etc. - but
distortion is not one of them.
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics
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From: Raimo K
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Stop laughing. Distortion is not an aberration.
Distortion is one of the six optical aberations.
William Robb
RS didn't, it was that simple. Strangely I (and I expect most other listers) still
RS understood and appreciated the point he was making, and that's the point.
What's more LOL that everybody understood what he mant by distortion
except the nitpicking types ;-)
Good light!
fra
Vignetting?
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
- Original
Not according to experts.
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:24 PM
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whaley
Raimo K wrote:
Not according to experts.
All the best!
Raimo K
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Long
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From: Raimo K
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Not according to experts.
Which experts are you quoting?
I quoted one, shall I quote a few more?
Or are you the expert in question?
William Robb
Stop laughing. Distortion is not an aberration.
Distortion
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
In tests the Sigma 70-300 APO comes a poor second to the Pentax FA 80-320!
John
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Sent: Sun, 17 Oct
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From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:20:49 -0500
Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
I'm glad to hear that.
I've been unhappy with my Sigma 70-300, especially on the ist-D.
I ordered an 80-320 Pentax from KEH
: Long zoom recommendations
Hah, this is simply not true. Sigma is a lot better in the long end
than the 80-320 Pentax - which is not near 320 in reality. All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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From: John
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From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Hah, this is simply not true.
Would you like to see some scientific proof? I'll scan you
--- Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm glad to hear that.
I've been unhappy with my Sigma 70-300, especially
on the ist-D.
I ordered an 80-320 Pentax from KEH last night after
reading reviews.
The Sigma isn't really a bad lens, it just seems
very inconsistent
from stop to stop
Wendy,
Buy the FAJ and test all three so I can benefit from your experience ;)
CW
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From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:07 PM
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--- Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm
: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:20 PM
Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
I've been unhappy with my Sigma 70-300, especially on the ist-D.
I ordered an 80-320 Pentax from KEH last night after reading reviews.
The Sigma isn't really a bad lens, it just seems very inconsistent
from stop to stop
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Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
at the long end, there is plenty of corner distortion unless you stop
down a lot, even on the *istD. i got that i really don't use mine unless
i have to forego the weight of my FA* 80-200/2.8.
Herb...
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From: Don
On 18 Oct 2004 at 22:14, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
secondly I have never a lens yet that stopping down reduced distortion,
distortion is fixed regardless of fstop.
Optical distortions/aberrations other than obvious geometric distortions are
often affected by stopping down. Think outside the
distortion is a term used in optics nearly
always if not always associated with geometry
and it doesn't improve with stopping down.
jco
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From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Long zoom
like Rob says, think outside the box. abberations are distortions too.
Herb...
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From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:14 PM
Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
what do you mean by corner distortion
: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
like Rob says, think outside the box. abberations are distortions too.
Herb...
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From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED
On 18 Oct 2004 at 23:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I don't think outside the box when inside the box is the preferred
method.
I cant think of a single instance where I have read
anything regarding optical distortion where they were
NOT referring to geometric distortion. The other types
of
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
distortion is a term used in optics nearly
always if not always associated with geometry
and it doesn't improve with stopping down.
Technically correct.
Distortion:
An optical aberration caused because
, are NOT optical distortion. They are what they are, those kinds
of abberations.
JCO
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From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Long zoom recommendations
On 18 Oct 2004 at 23:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I
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From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter Belak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:15:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Hi, Peter.
I would like to add some longer lens to my small collection. The
longest lens I have is my favorite M 135
Hello Fred,
I'd suggest, for manual focus lenses, perhaps the A 70-210/4, if
that's long enough, or the Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 (one of my favorite
lenses).
Thanks for recommendation. I was thinking about A 70-210/4 and I even
tried to get one on ebay, but it went too high. Is it really that
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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Hello Fred,
I'd suggest, for manual focus lenses, perhaps the A 70-210/4, if
that's long enough, or the Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 (one of my favorite
lenses).
Thanks
Here's a link to the Nikon version of the AT-X 100-300:
http://tinyurl.com/6nf7v
It shows what it looks like and some info.
Don
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From: Peter Belak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long zoom
It shows what it looks like and some info.
Thanks for info, it looks good. But I did not find any in K mount, not
even in completed listings.
Peter B.
Peter asked:
I was thinking about A 70-210/4... Is it really that good?
Yes, Peter, it is that good. Pentax made three or four manual-focus zooms
whose results are, in every respect, indistinguishable from a great prime.
The 70-210/4 is one of them. The others that come to mind are the
Yes, Peter, it is that good. Pentax made three or four manual-focus zooms
whose results are, in every respect, indistinguishable from a great prime.
The 70-210/4 is one of them. The others that come to mind are the 35-105/3.5
PKA and 75-150/4 (M? K?).
Thanks for this. I already found one on
Hi, Peter.
I was thinking about A 70-210/4 and I even tried to get one on
ebay, but it went too high. Is it really that good?
I think it's quite a good zoom. It's a zoom, of course, and not a
prime, but it's a very good zoom. If you want one on eBay, then
keep looking - they show up there
, 2004 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
Peter asked:
I was thinking about A 70-210/4... Is it really that good?
Yes, Peter, it is that good. Pentax made three or four manual-focus zooms
whose results are, in every respect, indistinguishable from a great prime.
The 70-210/4 is one
Peter asked:
I was thinking about A 70-210/4... Is it really that good?
Yes, Peter, it is that good. Pentax made three or four manual-focus zooms
whose results are, in every respect, indistinguishable from a great prime.
The 70-210/4 is one of them.
I am not quite agree. While the SMC PENTAX-A
In tests the Sigma 70-300 APO comes a poor second to the Pentax FA 80-320!
John
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From: Raimo K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:25 +0300
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
I´d wager that Sigma 70-300 APO is better
results were going to be.
Don
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From: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long zoom recommendations
In tests the Sigma 70-300 APO comes a poor second to the Pentax FA 80-320!
John
Hello all,
I would like to add some longer lens to my small collection. The
longest lens I have is my favorite M 135/3.5 - sharp and small. But I
need some more. I could buy mint Sigma 135-400 quite cheap (350$),
but I can't test it before I get it. I am bit afraid of its weight -
is anybody here
If you can spare $2000, the Sigma 120-300/2.8 AF.
Otherwise, the Tokina 100-300/4 AF, which is said to be even better than its
manual-focus forebear. Big and heavy, but a fine performer.
Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Hi, Peter.
I would like to add some longer lens to my small collection. The
longest lens I have is my favorite M 135/3.5 - sharp and small.
But I need some more. I could buy mint Sigma 135-400 quite cheap
[snip] Would I go better with some Pentax zoom in that price
range? I plan to use it
Otherwise, the Tokina 100-300/4 AF, which is said to be even
better than its manual-focus forebear. Big and heavy, but a fine
performer.
I've never used the autofocus version of the AT-X 100-300/4, but it
must be fantastic if it's better than the manual focus version.
I have some sample shots
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