A couple of messages from the couple-of-weeks-ago thread about straps
showed up from some remote part of the ether this morning, so ...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
I use one like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/B000OMR00C
I use this one (neoprene) on my
So... Cameras...?
Female. They get mounted from the front.
Thay can't be female: I can look right though them.
They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out.
My Canon is female, it gives a good slap when pressed.
My R-D1 is a male - shutter has a cock.
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Fo info, seems like a good juncture to post my compromise:
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html
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Perhaps I will rig something like that. Good solution.
Paul
On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Cotty wrote:
Fo info, seems like a good juncture to post my compromise:
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html
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Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did
you do it? And who makes the strap?
Rick
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fo info, seems like a good juncture to post my
compromise:
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html
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In a message dated 1/26/2008 7:36:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did
you do it? And who makes the strap?
Rick
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It looks like a good camera bag strap on camera instead of bag.
Marnie aka Doe
On 26/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did
you do it? And who makes the strap?
Strong needle, tough thread, blood transfusions.
I think that one came from a Marmoset bumbag. I have several.
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On Jan 27, 2008 1:15 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 26/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did
you do it? And who makes the strap?
Strong needle, tough thread, blood transfusions.
I think that one came from a Marmoset
It looks good but maybe I'll pass. I spent an hour last night trying to
add a couple of snaps to the bottom of a coat that was a bit too big. I
guess I could outsource it. g
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/26/2008 11:15 AM
On 26/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
Very clever, Cotty.
Do you play badminton with your shuttercock?
Cotty wrote:
So... Cameras...?
Female. They get mounted from the front.
Thay can't be female: I can look right though them.
They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out.
My Canon is female, it
Body vs. New Lens
So... Cameras...?
Female. They get mounted from the front.
Thay can't be female: I can look right though them.
They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out.
My Canon is female, it gives a good slap when pressed.
My R-D1 is a male - shutter has a cock
In a message dated 1/26/2008 10:13:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or, maybe the camera is androgynous: when it works, it's female. When
there's a cock-up, it's male.
Cheers, Christine
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LOL.
I was trying to think of a response to this dumb thread
My D2H must be male. It is retired, Works when it feels like, and
does not do dishes
Dave
On Jan 26, 2008 4:44 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So... Cameras...?
Female. They get mounted from the front.
Thay can't be female: I can look right though them.
They must be female: I
My answer to the new body or new lens question might be:
New tripod.
The operation of my CF Gitzo mountaineer is annoying. My Manfrotto 3021
is heavy for hiking expeditions. I may spring for a bigger, better
carbon fiber tripod.
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Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around
your neck on
strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load
after a while.
Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself
Lowepro sells a couple straps including a Neoprene one which I like very much.
Even my SuperA+Motor (and its 8 AA cells) feels a lot lighter with that strap.
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From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses?
New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Then finish off the new PC. Then find a
new pro lab. Local one turned up its toes over the holidays Odd, as it was
part of a large arts supplies
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/01/24 Thu PM 09:38:24 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys
I like the Tamarac straps that can be quickly detached when you don't
want them in the way. They're also well padded and quite comfortable.
Paul
On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote:
New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades.
Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute gem. Perfect
BW tonality, vivid color and prints that are a dead-on match for
what's on my monitor. Photography needs Epson.
Paul
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/01/25 Fri AM 11:42:05 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote:
New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades.
Please no, don't do that. My Epson
When I carry two cameras, I usually have the preferred lens on the #1
camera in my hand, the second camera on my left shoulder is used
maybe 15-20% of the time for an alternate view. E.g., #1 might be
16-50mm, #2 might be 14mm or 77mm or 100/macro. Or #1 might be
50-135mm, with the 21mm on
My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but
it's efficient.
Why?
First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap
breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched.
Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off
the
Kenneth Waller
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From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Op Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:41:50 +0100 schreef William Robb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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From: cbwaters
Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
For me this Begs
No. I guess you could just buy a simple wrist strap, but I use a
homemade combination of a Velcro watchband and a carabiner key chain. I
can just clip it on and off and it's very sturdy. I even tried a simple
looped boot shoelace g, It worked just fine and the K10D just dangled
in the air when
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From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tested it over the bed, and it dangles
alarmingly ...
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The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from
BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years.
They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also
fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full-
circle wrist loop
Op Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:41:50 +0100 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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From: cbwaters
Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys
I use one like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/B000OMR00C
I just found this on the web. I forget what brand I have. I also have
a velcro watch band with a carabineer key chain to connect it to the
wrist strap. Easy to hold, always ready, the hand grip
In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:26:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But my basic approach is that the camera I am shooting with is in my
hand, and secondary camera(s) are in a comfortable albeit not the
most accessible spot. And I can carry a K10D with grip
In a message dated 1/25/2008 5:41:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but
it's efficient.
Why?
First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap
breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your
Lately I've been using a wrist strap more and more. Maybe it's how I
shoot. I also attach a strap around my wrist so I can't just drop it.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Paul
I carry my work camera, which is one of the heavy Nikon models and the
70-200 around my neck. If i'm walking from 1 ring to another, i'll
sling it over my shoulder and tuck the lens down ward, so as not to
knock people over when walking.:-0
Its a heavy comb, and really hard on the neck and
Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/01/25 Fri AM 11:42:05 GMT
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Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote:
New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades.
Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute
Exactly my thoughts.
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Friday, January 25, 2008, 11:41:31 AM, you wrote:
pcn The K20D should prove to be a great wedding camera, given its low-light
capability.
pcn Paul
pcn -- Original message --
pcn From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Body for me.
This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while
at school. It fits my hand well and I don't have to constantly grip the
camera. Essentially, I have this grip and an auxiliary wrist strap in
case it slips off my hand. I tested it over the bed, and it dangles
alarmingly but
Does it come with the auxiliary wrist strap? I didn't see any mention of that
at BH.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while
at school. It fits my hand well and
The K20D should prove to be a great wedding camera, given its low-light
capability.
Paul
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Body for me. I most recently got the DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135. Could
use something on the wide end, but I could
Independent art supply stores are just as threatened as independent
photo stores. The local small store closed because he couldn't compete
with the national chains and Internet sales. I knew the owner, his
costs were often more than the large chains were selling the exact same
item for, and
Wider = Better.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on
strap all day shooting
But it can slip off the hand, can it not? I'm not sold on hand grips. When hung
around the neck, I'm still holding the camera, so it doesn't bang on anything.
If I'm in the clear of any objects, I sometimes just let it hang, but not all
that often. I went to Amazon thinking I might want to by
Body for me. I most recently got the DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135. Could
use something on the wide end, but I could use the body more for the
stuff I do. Then again, I got WW getting me to look into Large
format, so there is always something competing for what money I have
(or wish I had).
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Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it
for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty-year habits are hard
to break.
Paul
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The better quality
Steve Desjardins wrote:
I tested it over the bed, and it dangles
alarmingly but safely. g
snicker
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Just the hand strap:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194968-REG/
Hakuba_KGP02_Camera_Grip_LH.html
You can add another security strap if you desire, but then the're the
PH model with wrist strap:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194967-REG/
Hakuba_KGP01_Camera_Grip_PH.html
Godfrey
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to
have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again.
So what's more likely for
Next? New body unless I luck into a deal on a DA 14. I need the high
ISO performance more than I need to upgrade my current 3 lens kit
(Sigma 17-70, Tokina 28/2.8,FA 50/1.4). After that it's nothing but
lenses. The K10D almost covered all my needs in a body and the K20D
will solve the rest.
-Adam
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: New Body vs. New Lens
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like
Right now, I'm happy with my K10D and happy with my
collection of lenses.
The next photo-related expenditures are likely to be
more RAM and another external hard drive for the
computer...
Rick
--- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty
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Subject: New Body vs. New Lens
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to
have
Have been impatiently awaiting release of the 60~250 which now may be
rescheduled 'til this coming summer.(?)
ITMT, I'm curious to learn a little about the 55~300.
I imagine I'll get the K20D at some point, but want to give it a little
time..if I can control myself.
Jack
--- Rick Womer [EMAIL
So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses?
While I would REALLY like to say I'll be getting one of the new items, the fact
is that I probably can't afford any of them.
However, if I could, my first move would be to sell my M* 300mm f4 and apply
that money toward the DA*300.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 02:38:37PM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to
have. It's nice
On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the
K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would
like to
have. It's nice that
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of
amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others
said Y.
So... Cameras...?
CW
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: New Body vs. New Lens
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:38:37 -0500
Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses?
definitely lens for me. Macro.
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From: cbwaters
Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of
amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some
- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
I noticed the new 300 has a tripod mount. They did listen.
I'd still be hesitant to buy one - with my luck, they'd come out with a
full
frame sensor that would obsolete these DA lenses.
I'm guessing
So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses?
Neither.
Hopefully more/ better shooting opportunities.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008
On Jan 24, 2008 5:45 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 24, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two
On Jan 24, 2008 4:38 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of
amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others
said Y.
So... Cameras...?
In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:45:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of
amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X
On Jan 24, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to
have. It's
In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:58:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses?
Right now, nothing. I have enough cameras and lenses.
But my highest mp is 8, so eventually I want more mp. I have been sort of
waiting
with a full
frame sensor that would obsolete these DA lenses.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: New Body
On Jan 25, 2008 4:38 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to
have. It's
On 24/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to
have. It's nice that
Some are X others are Y. ;+}
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back
Ken Waller wrote:
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the
gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some
guys said X others said Y.
So... Cameras...?
Some are X others are Y. ;+}
On Jan 24, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Cotty wrote:
Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat.
Mark!
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On Jan 24, 2008 6:32 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 24/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those new lenses.
On Jan 24, 2008 6:06 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ken Waller wrote:
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are cameras male or female?
I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the
gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some
guys said X
In a message dated 1/24/2008 3:36:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat.
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Why bother to emigrate?
You're already the (scape)goat of jokes right here.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
The K10D K20D are only marginally smaller and lighter than the 40D.
If small light is an issue, the new Rebel XSi might be something to
look at. No SR, but it gets a much larger viewfinder (95%, .87x
pentamirror, noticably larger than the K100D's) and improved grip
design, along with a better
C'mon, folks. It's basic biology.
The lens mounts =on= the camera.
One puts film/cards =into= the camera.
Mysterious things happen and pictures come =out=.
Clearly the camera is female.
The mystery is why manual focus and medium format
cameras are referred to as MF. Gets confusing.
Rick
In a message dated 1/24/2008 6:47:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The K10D K20D are only marginally smaller and lighter than the 40D.
If small light is an issue, the new Rebel XSi might be something to
look at. No SR, but it gets a much larger viewfinder (95%, .87x
Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat.
You're not already?
Cotty wrote:
On 24/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on
strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load after a while.
Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included
until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the
In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included
until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their
gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one
Marnie, I use a neoprene rubber strap with my Medalist II, it's a very
heavy beast close to three pounds in weight, but with the strap it
doesn't seem heavier than the *ist-Ds with a the FA 20-35 mounted.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard
If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder,
hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive.
One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving
from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging
from two fingers and
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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... but no one ever seems
to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you
that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and
bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can
-
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: New Body vs. New Lens
I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D
and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards
buying one or two of those
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