Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-23 Thread John
On 8/22/2019 10:52:45, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 22.08.19 um 16:01 schrieb John: I don't think "thrive" is the right word. ...and if they do in Iceland it's only because half the population of a mere 60,000 make their living directly or indirectly from a large US air base. Not easy to

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-23 Thread John
On 8/22/2019 17:18:24, Postmaster wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 22, 2019, at 12:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have naked gingers with big choppers

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-23 Thread John
But the real problems won't start until their MEN leave the pubs. 8^) On 8/22/2019 15:47:54, mike wilson wrote: We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have naked gingers with big choppers running

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-23 Thread mike wilson
> On 23 August 2019 at 01:18 "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > > > By any standards, Iceland is in decent shape. Unemployment is less than3%, > and Gross domestic product is $70,000 per capita. > > Forbes: Iceland's economy combines a capitalist structure and free-market > principles with an

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-23 Thread mike wilson
> On 22 August 2019 at 22:18 Postmaster wrote: > > > Larry Colen wrote: > > > > >> On Aug 22, 2019, at 12:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >> > >> We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, > >> before you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
By any standards, Iceland is in decent shape. Unemployment is less than3%, and Gross domestic product is $70,000 per capita. Forbes: Iceland's economy combines a capitalist structure and free-market principles with an extensive welfare system. Except for a brief period during the 2008 crisis,

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: >On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 08:44:45PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: >> >> > On 22 August 2019 at 10:48 Steve Cottrell wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 21/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >> > >> > >This man quite obviously can't wait to drive the country over the

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 08:44:45PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: > > > On 22 August 2019 at 10:48 Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > > > > On 21/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >This man quite obviously can't wait to drive the country over the cliff > > >edge and then blame

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >> On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Postmaster wrote: >> >> Larry Colen wrote: >>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 12:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Larry Colen
> On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Postmaster wrote: > > Larry Colen wrote: > >> >>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 12:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before >>> you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Postmaster
Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Aug 22, 2019, at 12:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: >> >> We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before >> you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have naked >> gingers with big choppers running in the streets of

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Larry Colen
> On Aug 22, 2019, at 12:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before > you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have naked > gingers with big choppers running in the streets of Berwick-on-Tweed. Mark? And

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread mike wilson
We'd go for the Antonine wall, the Scots would go for Hadrian's and, before you could say "Hadaway and shite, yer sassenach poltroon" we'd have naked gingers with big choppers running in the streets of Berwick-on-Tweed. > On 22 August 2019 at 14:56 John wrote: > > > Isn't Hadrian's wall

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread mike wilson
> On 22 August 2019 at 10:48 Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > On 21/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >This man quite obviously can't wait to drive the country over the cliff > >edge and then blame it all on Europe. > > Interesting read by former Icelandic PM > >

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I always thought that the names of those Islands were part of a medieval Norse land scheme to keep newcomers from coming to Iceland, and sell them worthless property in Greenland, but I was wrong about that.  When it was named parts of Greenland were actually green and probably as inviting as

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
The UK has either the third or fourth largest economy in Europe. Larger than most other economies in the world.  Their leaving the EU would be like California or Texas leaving the U.S.  Unless their governments screw things up they wouldn't suffer all that much. Scotland leaving the the UK?

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Paul Sorenson
He makes it sound pretty good.  Maybe the US could join once the twit with the twitter account is gone.  Current tariffs are starting to be a problem for consumers. -p On 8/22/2019 8:22 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Damn, that Gent makes sense! Perhaps the UK should hire him to manage

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It's easy to remember: Iceland is green and Greenland is icy. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 12:03 PM Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > OK, make thet Greenland instead of Iceland. I keep mixing up those two. > > Ralf > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 22.08.19 um 17:06 schrieb William Robb: Now you've done it. Now trunt will want Norway to give Iceland to the USA as reparations. OK, make thet Greenland instead of Iceland. I keep mixing up those two. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/8/19, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Now trunt Is this a new one from Billsworld (tm) or have you been sipping the single malt? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread William Robb
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 8:53 AM Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 22.08.19 um 16:01 schrieb John: > > I don't think "thrive" is the right word. > > ...and if they do in Iceland it's only because half the population of a > mere 60,000 make their living directly or indirectly from a large US air >

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 22.08.19 um 16:01 schrieb John: I don't think "thrive" is the right word. ...and if they do in Iceland it's only because half the population of a mere 60,000 make their living directly or indirectly from a large US air base. Not easy to replicate in the U.K. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher -

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread John
I don't think "thrive" is the right word. I have no doubt they will survive, but I don't think it's going to be good for them - short term or long term. On 8/22/2019 05:48:17, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 21/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: This man quite obviously can't

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread John
Isn't Hadrian's wall south of the actual "border" between England & Scotland? On 8/21/2019 17:54:09, Stan Halpin wrote: I think Ireland should buy N Ireland (with a loan from t) and then the border issue would be moot. At least until Scotland leaves the Union, and then there would be that

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Damn, that Gent makes sense! Perhaps the UK should hire him to manage Brexit. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 5:49 AM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 21/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >This man quite obviously can't

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 21/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >This man quite obviously can't wait to drive the country over the cliff >edge and then blame it all on Europe. Interesting read by former Icelandic PM

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-21 Thread Stan Halpin
I think Ireland should buy N Ireland (with a loan from t) and then the border issue would be moot. At least until Scotland leaves the Union, and then there would be that border to maintain. Back to Hadrian’s wall? stan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Ralf R Radermacher

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-21 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 21.08.19 um 19:13 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Boris is more than happy to walk away with no deal - in fact that is his preference. This man quite obviously can't wait to drive the country over the cliff edge and then blame it all on Europe. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne,

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 21/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Today and tomorrow appear to be crucial days for the future of the UK. It >will certainly survive, but in what form will depend on the outcome of the >discussions between the PM and the German and French leaders. I don't think that PM

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Today and tomorrow appear to be crucial days for the future of the UK. It will certainly survive, but in what form will depend on the outcome of the discussions between the PM and the German and French leaders. We live in interesting times. Dan Matyola

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually it was that despicable Moose and Squirrel. On 8/18/2019 11:02 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: On August 18, 2019 2:47:12 PM PDT, Bob Pdml wrote: On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:18, John wrote: On 8/18/2019 12:44:36, Bob Pdml wrote: On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John wrote: On 8/17/2019

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/8/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed: > >It all went a bit wrong again yesterday: >https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-49375917 Apparently some material flew off the one of the chimneys as it fell and landed on some 33kVa lines causing a short. Most power was restored

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-18 Thread lrc
On August 18, 2019 2:47:12 PM PDT, Bob Pdml wrote: > >> On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:18, John wrote: >> >> On 8/18/2019 12:44:36, Bob Pdml wrote: On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John wrote: >> On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-18 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:18, John wrote: > > On 8/18/2019 12:44:36, Bob Pdml wrote: >>> On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John wrote: >>> > On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR: > > Caption under that picture: > "Problems

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-18 Thread John
On 8/18/2019 12:44:36, Bob Pdml wrote: On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John wrote: On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR: Caption under that picture: "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing." Shouldn't that read "The wrong type of

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-18 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John wrote: > >> On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >>> Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR: >>> >>> Caption under that picture: >>> "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing." >> Shouldn't that read "The wrong type of wind"? >> Ralf >

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-18 Thread John
On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR: Caption under that picture: "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing." Shouldn't that read "The wrong type of wind"? Ralf I'm pretty sure you can use hot air to generate electricity. --

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-17 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR: Caption under that picture: "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing." Shouldn't that read "The wrong type of wind"? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-17 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Caption under that picture: "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing." Steve Cottrell Sat, 10 Aug 2019 08:43:13 -0700 wrote: No power cut here. Think there was a temporary problem with 2 separate power sources - a power station in Cambridgeshire and a wind farm in the North Sea.

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In the US, a large portion of the leadership has come from the Ivy Leagues. Even the current resident of the White House has a degree from the Wharton School at Penn. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 3:25 AM mike wilson wrote: > > > On 10

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-11 Thread mike wilson
> On 10 August 2019 at 22:19 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > > > On 10 Aug 2019, at 14:37, Alan C wrote: > > > > The Dark Ages were from the departure of the Romans in 410AD to the arrival > > of William the Conqueror in 1066AD. There was a heat wave in those times > > which enabled grapes to be

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Alan C
Basically, that's it. Alan C On 10-Aug-19 11:19 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: On 10 Aug 2019, at 14:37, Alan C wrote: The Dark Ages were from the departure of the Romans in 410AD to the arrival of William the Conqueror in 1066AD. There was a heat wave in those times which enabled grapes to be grown

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/8/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >Due to the loss of those two power sources the remaining sources were >put under more load and their generators were consequentially slowed >down. This in turn lead to a drop in mains frequency which is very >tightly controlled

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 10 Aug 2019, at 14:37, Alan C wrote: > > The Dark Ages were from the departure of the Romans in 410AD to the arrival > of William the Conqueror in 1066AD. There was a heat wave in those times > which enabled grapes to be grown as far north as York. > > Alan c >> The Dark Ages? Isn't

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 10 Aug 2019, at 15:55, mike wilson wrote: > > Bob forgot to put threepence in the meter. We won't need electricity after Brexit, we'll all be burning in Hell. > >> On 10 August 2019 at 13:34 "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: >> >> >> So, what is going on in the UK? A million people in the

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 10 Aug 2019, at 19:37, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Due to the loss of those two power sources the remaining sources were > put under more load and their generators were consequentially slowed > down. This in turn lead to a drop in mains frequency which is very > tightly controlled

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 10 Aug 2019, at 16:42, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 10/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> So, what is going on in the UK? A million people in the dark? >> Is this related to the Great European Heat Wave? >> >> Keep cool over there . . . . > > No power cut

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 10.08.19 um 17:42 schrieb Steve Cottrell: No power cut here. Think there was a temporary problem with 2 separate power sources - a power station in Cambridgeshire and a wind farm in the North Sea. Think it led to some outages in various parts of the country and affected things like rail

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Nolan Hinshaw
On Aug 10, 2019, at 06:37, Alan C wrote: > The Dark Ages were from the departure of the Romans in 410AD to the arrival > of William the Conqueror in 1066AD. There was a heat wave in those times > which enabled grapes to be grown as far north as York. [unlurking due to irresistible bait] Now

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >So, what is going on in the UK? A million people in the dark? >Is this related to the Great European Heat Wave? > >Keep cool over there . . . . No power cut here. Think there was a temporary problem with 2 separate power sources -

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread mike wilson
Bob forgot to put threepence in the meter. > On 10 August 2019 at 13:34 "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > > > So, what is going on in the UK? A million people in the dark? > Is this related to the Great European Heat Wave? > > Keep cool over there . . . . > > > Dan Matyola >

Re: OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Alan C
The Dark Ages were from the departure of the Romans in 410AD to the arrival of William the Conqueror in 1066AD. There was a heat wave in those times which enabled grapes to be grown as far north as York. Alan c On 10-Aug-19 02:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: So, what is going on in the UK?

OT: England in the Dark?

2019-08-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
So, what is going on in the UK? A million people in the dark? Is this related to the Great European Heat Wave? Keep cool over there . . . . Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net