Well, thanks. I thought it was a personal vendetta, but didn't want to add
to list misunderstanding. I apologize for the OT posts. I don't start them,
but I seem constitutionally unable to withstand them without response for
longer than about 30-50 irksome posts. (Though I am doing better.)
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
I've tried to stay out of this OT thread
Me too, but
Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and
pharmaceutical error. Most of these folks were not involved in any life or
limb threatening situation. This dwarfs folks
I think Dave just pretty much put the nail in the whole argument there...case
closed.
Norm
dave o'brien wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I
ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show
Well said.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
I've tried to stay out of this OT thread
Me too, but
Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and
pharmaceutical
to the Washington DC area and it
didn't matter.
Kent Gittings
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
I've tried to stay out of this OT thread
The previous poster was me, and I take exception to your reference to
the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought (sic).
FYI have a look at:
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/03/24/p7s2.htm
and
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issuebriefs/australia.asp
as well as
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I
ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have
enacted shall issue concealed carry laws
are
antigun related.
Ciao,
graywolf
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From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
I've tried to stay out of this OT thread
Me too
.
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
The previous poster was me, and I take exception to your reference to
the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought
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From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
Liberty is not about what you like not being curtailed or banned. Liberty
is
about ...
SNIP
Blah Blah Blah. Please take
My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a
private debate or had preferably chosen to SHUT THE F*** UP about their
right to bear
Oh how I wish I had never unintentionally started this thread!
My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a
private debate or
Its great entertainment. Have at it
Otiose Right
Anthony Far wrote:
My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a
BTW when Bob wrote,
I've tried to stay out of this OT thread, but the level of ignorance
and of
and paucity of rational thought is seriously getting to me.
you didn't pounce on him. Wassamatta, is he of the same opinion as you,
thus excusing him from observing the same courtesies?
Regards,
Not your fault, Paul. You entertained us with the story of the Croc
Hunter's endorsement of Pentax. The gun-lovers saw the word Australia
and it was a hot button for them to hijack the thread and weigh in with
their own brand of we're better-off than you and you're worse-off than
us TRASH. I
, 2001 3:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
Hi Kent,
Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was
wondering
how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from
Australia.
From what i have seen the average Australian doesnt
]'
Subject: RE: OT: Re: Australians
I've stayed out of this one so far, but as a naturalised Australian born in
England I now gotta jump in!
Kent, the presumption of innocence also applies in both England and
Australia -
the rule is that, in a jury trial, the jury must be satisfied 'beyond
reasonable
without a gun is a subject
Kent Gittings
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
Paul Jones wrote:
I think
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I
ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have
enacted shall issue concealed carry laws the violent crime rate goes down
dramatically. A fact the
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
Paul Jones wrote:
I think that referendum for a republic was defeated due to the proposed
system
Hi,
English law (guilty until proven innocent)
this is entirely false (unless you're being tried by a Murdoch
newspaper, in which case you're subject to Murdoch's laws which are of
global scope with no appeal).
---
Bob
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do not go 'Click! Click!'. I go 'click!'
Hi Kent,
Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was
wondering
how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from
Australia.
From what i have seen the average Australian doesnt have a problem with it
and they find it quite scarey that in the US
- Original Message -
From: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
I was wondering
how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted
from
Australia. Seems to me here at least we would be up in arms if our
government was given the police powers that yours are
OOPS. I forgot to answer the second point. In Australia, as in
Britain, a person most certainly ~is~ innocent until proven guilty. I
can't imagine why you'd think otherwise (more unreliable sources
perhaps). One episode of Rumpole of the Bailey would probably teach
you more about British law
I am an Australian, I live in Byron Bay
I knew you were an australian, i ment other list members :)
Byron Bay has to be one of the top places in Aus to live. We stayed there
for a while 2 years ago.
Regards,
Paul
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I should have added, my wife lived in Australian for many years. Her mum,
dad, a brother and sister still live in Wollongong. I met her in England 25
years ago, and been married 24 years. She was born in Victoria on Vancouver
Island, so that's one of the reasons we emigrated to BC 2 1/2 years
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