Hear hear. I still have a few USB2 drives doing real work in a soft raid array.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Many of us did "real work" with USB 2 and USB 1 external drives. Fast is
> nice, but it's not essential.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On
Re: Backup software...I believe Western Digital external drives come with
several utilities that you can install on your computer, among them is a backup
program. Haven't tried it yet but it looks like it isn't too bad from the
description.
-p
On Dec 10, 2016, 12:56 AM -0600, David Mann
My only suggestion is to get two drives. I made the mistake of having one for
all of my photos and had a narrow escape when it started to fail.
I suspect the CD player will be the limiting factor for transfer rate.
Cheers,
Dave
> On Dec 9, 2016, at 4:38 AM, David J Brooks
You said "real time work. You can't do actual real time work with any computer
or drive, although you can certainly come close. But the storage device is
irrelevant if you have adequate memory.
Paul via phone
> On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>
Hmm - well maybe what I just saw was a USB _C
but as long as I can plug the USB3 in to my bus I should be ok
anyway - It won't happen in the next few days
ann
On 12/9/2016 10:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
ann sanfedele wrote:
I thought "port" referred to the slots in the bus... which are
Many of us did "real work" with USB 2 and USB 1 external drives. Fast is nice,
but it's not essential.
Paul via phone
> On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>
> If you're going to be using the external HD for any real time work, you're
> going to need
ann sanfedele wrote:
I thought "port" referred to the slots in the bus... which are neither
white nor blue . I guess the end of the cords are ports.
My neighborhas both USB3 and USB2 connectors so I just saw the
difference tonight... more difference than color -...
The USB3 ends won't fit on
I thought "port" referred to the slots in the bus... which are neither
white nor blue . I guess the end of the cords are ports.
My neighborhas both USB3 and USB2 connectors so I just saw the
difference tonight... more difference than color -...
The USB3 ends won't fit on the slots on my
They're almost certainly USB 2, but USB 3 drives are backwards
compatible with USB 2, so it won't matter. It will just take a little
while longer to complete a backup.
Of more concern is what software you're going to use for the backup. I
couldn't get Windows 7's built in Backup/Restore software
If you're going to be using the external HD for any real time work,
you're going to need USB 3.0. The way to tell, if they followed
convention, the USB 2.0 ports are white the 3.0 are blue.
On 12/9/2016 4:51 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
My computer is an HP 8000 PC with 4g ram and 1tb hard
More than likely you have USB 2.0 unless someone intentionally installed
a separate USB 3.0 card when they refurbished it. Like Larry saie, USB
3.0 ports are usually blue colored. Most external hard drives are
backward compatible to USB 2.0. Just check the specs on the box before
you buy.
Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 9/12/16, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
8 petabytes (8000 TB) is the biggest drive OS X can handle
LMFTFY
I always knew deep down Macs were shit
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ann sanfedele wrote:
My computer is an HP 8000 PC with 4g ram and 1tb hard drive... got it
refurbished without a lot of documentation -- I don't know if my USB
ports are 2 or 3
Does it matter? The Sea-gate 2t is $89 at my Staples and I have a $16
coupon from them... Ijust want to backup
On 9/12/16, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
>8 petabytes (8000 TB) is the biggest drive OS X can handle
I always knew deep down Macs were shit
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My computer is an HP 8000 PC with 4g ram and 1tb hard drive... got it
refurbished without a lot of documentation -- I don't know if my USB
ports are 2 or 3
Does it matter? The Sea-gate 2t is $89 at my Staples and I have a $16
coupon from them... Ijust want to backup everything on to it.. I
On 2016-12-08 16:39 , David J Brooks wrote:
oh another question. Am i getting into any troubel if i go more then
2TB for the drive, say a 3 or 4. its an older computer, 2011 iMac
21.5" with OS 10.11.6
8 petabytes (8000 TB) is the biggest drive OS X can handle; some cheap old
USB cases can
On 2016-12-09 5:16 , David J Brooks wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Is your iMac one of the vintage where you can use it as a thunderbolt
monitor for another mac?
Not sure Larry i'd have to search that
yes, it can — Target Display Mode is
That's pretty good.
I just checked the exchange rate & $99 CAD is $75 USD, so that's about
$15 USD cheaper than Staples is selling them here in the states.
On 12/9/2016 7:17 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Dave - how much is
On 12/8/2016 9:20 PM, John Francis wrote:
Newegg isn't too bad, either - they'll currently ship a WD elements
2TB drive to you (free shipping) for less than what staples charge
for the Seagate (and about what Frys want for it in-store).
I haven't had my one long enough to be able to offer any
On 12/9/2016 7:18 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:20 PM, John wrote:
Staples currently has them at $89.99. Amazon & Newegg have them for $79.99
For me, the extra $10 to Staples is worth it because they have a local
store & collect NC Sales tax at the
It's not politics, it's convenience.
It's less hassle for me to pay the sales tax at time of purchase than to
have to figure out at the end of the year which internet purchases I
didn't pay the sales tax on. If I deal with merchants that collect the
tax then & there, I don't have to worry about
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=4294945771
Microcenter has 5T for $129.99 and your basic 1T for <$60.
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>
> How big is your Time Machine drive?
1 TB
>
> For that matter, how many GB or TB of raw files do you have that you need to
> back up?
Not sure i'll have to look at the cd's and do a rough est i'll get back
Dave
>
> As
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:20 PM, John wrote:
> Staples currently has them at $89.99. Amazon & Newegg have them for $79.99
>
> For me, the extra $10 to Staples is worth it because they have a local
> store & collect NC Sales tax at the time of sale, so I don't have to
>
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Dave - how much is the 2tb at Stapleswhere you are?
Local store has them for $99 on sale
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> oh another question. Am i getting into any troubel if i go more then
>> 2TB for the drive, say a 3 or 4. its an older computer, 2011 iMac
>> 21.5" with OS 10.11.6
>
>
> BTW, if you have gigabit
Regarding WD vs Seagate vs HGST vs Toshiba, ...
My opinion is that there is no big difference between reliability of HDDs
from the major brands WD, Seagate, and HGST. (Actually HGST is now a part
of WD.) I am not talking about the "bleeding edge" models.
There are models (lines) in each
Newegg is great. I buy a lot from them.
Paul via phone
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:20 PM, John Francis wrote:
>
>
> Newegg isn't too bad, either - they'll currently ship a WD elements
> 2TB drive to you (free shipping) for less than what staples charge
> for the Seagate (and about
Politics doesn't enter into my buying decisions. It's not a black and white
issue,
Paul via phone
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:20 PM, John wrote:
>
> Staples currently has them at $89.99. Amazon & Newegg have them for $79.99
>
> For me, the extra $10 to Staples is worth it
Newegg isn't too bad, either - they'll currently ship a WD elements
2TB drive to you (free shipping) for less than what staples charge
for the Seagate (and about what Frys want for it in-store).
I haven't had my one long enough to be able to offer any reasonable
estimate of life expectancy, but
Staples currently has them at $89.99. Amazon & Newegg have them for $79.99
For me, the extra $10 to Staples is worth it because they have a local
store & collect NC Sales tax at the time of sale, so I don't have to
figure North Carolina's EFFED-UP internet tax at the end of the year.
If I was
Look at Other World. Computing also. Staples is pricey in my experience.
Paul via phone
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>
> Dave - how much is the 2tb at Stapleswhere you are?
>
> ann
>
>
>> On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> I have
There are way better deals than Staples online. Start at Amazon.
Paul via phone
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>
> Dave - how much is the 2tb at Stapleswhere you are?
>
> ann
>
>
>> On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> I have decided, now
David J Brooks wrote:
oh another question. Am i getting into any troubel if i go more then
2TB for the drive, say a 3 or 4. its an older computer, 2011 iMac
21.5" with OS 10.11.6
BTW, if you have gigabit ethernet, you also might do well with a NAS box
for your external archives.
Is your
Dave - how much is the 2tb at Stapleswhere you are?
ann
On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD and
DVD back up photo disks to an external HD, I need a new one anyway and
Staples has a nice Seagate 2tb on sale. I also
I would suggest avoiding Seagate as they currently have the highest
failure rates. Hitachi is actually the most reliable by far with 2%
failure rates. Western Digital comes in a distant second. I use
Western Digital drives mostly and they have been reliable. So has my
hitachi drives. I have an old
David J Brooks wrote:
Good ideas Igor. I have always used Seagate HDD's but never really
looked at reviews. I'll do that
iMac is USB 2
You can get Thunderbolt to USB 3 adapters for prices that are merely
rapacious, unlike the obscenely rapacious costs of thunderbolt drives.
Something
my cell does not have a data plan its an ancient emergency plan with
20 min talk and $0.15 a trext, i can access internet only if i have
access to mine or someone else s wifi so that's out for me
Dave
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> Phone? For
oh another question. Am i getting into any troubel if i go more then
2TB for the drive, say a 3 or 4. its an older computer, 2011 iMac
21.5" with OS 10.11.6
Dave
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:33 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
> Good ideas Igor. I have always used Seagate HDD's but
Good ideas Igor. I have always used Seagate HDD's but never really
looked at reviews. I'll do that
iMac is USB 2
Just wondering now if i should copy them to my HD then to the new
external that way they will be on my time machine drive aswell (ie 2
drives). I have alwasys in the past had two
Phone? For uploading RAW photo files?
That's out of question (unless you are talking about 1-2...)
I don't know about your phone data plan, but most are not unlimited these
days. Mine is only 2GB per month.
Even for the landline, using Cloud storage for backup can be complicated,
depending
>Igor makes a lot of good points, I may double up on a few:
>
>You really want to transfer your files to a couple of external drives,
>one of which to be kept someplace other than your house. Perhaps do a
>swap deal with someone else on the list for offsite storage.
>
>Do pay attention to HDD
Trade-offs may apply:
If you copy your entire image catalog to the external drive, they're all
in one place that becomes a possible single point of failure. If you
spread your catalog across a number of thumb drives, you multiply the
possibility of having one of them fail.
Maybe your best
Igor makes a lot of good points, I may double up on a few:
You really want to transfer your files to a couple of external drives,
one of which to be kept someplace other than your house. Perhaps do a
swap deal with someone else on the list for offsite storage.
Do pay attention to HDD
Zos said what I was going to say.
You will not feel a difference between 7200 and 5400 rpm drives in the
transfer rate when you are backing up photos.
The main situation when you feel the difference is in the "random access",
when the system/program accesses many small files. (E.g. in case
It kind of depends on the bus speed. However all other things being
equal, the Thumb drives should be faster than a cd/dvd drive. All
things are seldom equal.
The one thing that is sure, the 32 gig thumb drives will require less
user intervention assuming you packed as many files onto the
The CD is going to be slower than any drive you connect it to. Don't
worry about rpms. Most externals are 5400 anyways. You'll spend a
premium to get a 7200rpm drive that is external and it won't really
gain you much in transfer speed though your random seek times will
improve. Something that
thanks, never thought to look at rpm's
Dave
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Almost certainly better transfer rate to an external skinny drive. Make sure
> it’s a 7200 rpm Seagate. And thumb drives seem to fail frequently. At least
> in my
Almost certainly better transfer rate to an external skinny drive. Make sure
it’s a 7200 rpm Seagate. And thumb drives seem to fail frequently. At least in
my experience, although that’s based on use of recycled thumb drives that I’ve
gotten at press conferences.
Paul
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 10:38
I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD and
DVD back up photo disks to an external HD, I need a new one anyway and
Staples has a nice Seagate 2tb on sale. I also have a number of 32 gig
thumb drives i thought might also do the trick. Just curious would the
transfer rate
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