Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-17 Thread Bob W
They're trying to get juice from the melons instead. B > On 17 Jan 2014, at 18:27, John wrote: > > Seems like you can't get blood from a turnip, so they have to gouge the > tourists for every possible penny. > >> On 1/16/2014 5:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: >> I remember going about thirty years a

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-17 Thread John
How much does it cost to go up in the Eiffel Tower? On 1/16/2014 11:33 PM, David Parsons wrote: It's called a Vleben good. It's worth more to people because you charge more for it. The same reason why Leica can command a price premium. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good On Wed, Jan 15,

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-17 Thread John
Seems like you can't get blood from a turnip, so they have to gouge the tourists for every possible penny. On 1/16/2014 5:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: I remember going about thirty years ago, and I don't remember paying anything to get to the observation level. The outside deck was closed, howeve

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread David Parsons
It's called a Vleben good. It's worth more to people because you charge more for it. The same reason why Leica can command a price premium. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > On 1/15/2014 12:58, Bill wrote: >> >> On 15/01/2014 1

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:02 , P.J. Alling wrote: > I remember going about thirty years ago, and I don't remember paying anything > to get to the observation level. The outside deck was closed, however so > maybe they just weren't charging because of that. However it is still > limited on how m

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread Paul Ewins
When you've travelled half-way round the world to get to New York $27 doesn't seem so much. You come to expect the big name attractions to have price tags to match and not much beats the ESB when you travel to the US. The worst part is the queues. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 17/01/2014

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread P.J. Alling
I remember going about thirty years ago, and I don't remember paying anything to get to the observation level. The outside deck was closed, however so maybe they just weren't charging because of that. However it is still limited on how many people can get there by the size of the elevators.

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:12 , P.J. Alling wrote: > There's limited access. Access is free, or at least it used to be. I don't > think that advertising is in their best interest. Huge crowds would require > crowd control. > >From their site: "Tickets start at $27 for a visit to the Main Obse

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread P.J. Alling
There's limited access. Access is free, or at least it used to be. I don't think that advertising is in their best interest. Huge crowds would require crowd control. On 1/15/2014 12:17 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Bill wrote: On 15/01/2014 8:45 AM, Yolanda Rowe wrote: Talk about an ove

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-16 Thread P.J. Alling
I've been there. After 9-11 security may be higher but it's just a semi public space open to the general public. Accessible by a public elevator. Hell if I'd had a willing model I'd probably have done the same thing using fill 30 years ago, I bet this guy wasn't the first. Possibility he's

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread John
On 1/14/2014 5:37 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Interesting! Bogus! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow th

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread John
On 1/15/2014 12:17 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Bill wrote: On 15/01/2014 8:45 AM, Yolanda Rowe wrote: Talk about an over-reach! Sure, the pair (pardon the pun) showed poor judgement. Issuing one indecent exposure ticket and banning the subject and her cellphone shooter from the site would h

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 1/15/2014 12:58, Bill wrote: On 15/01/2014 10:54 AM, Attila Boros wrote: > The Psychology of Price. .. It's a well known fact that you can do a blind test where you pour two glasses of wine from the same bottle, tell a consumer that one glass is from a 10 dollar bottle and the other

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Bill
On 15/01/2014 10:54 AM, Attila Boros wrote: "The owners seek $1.1m (£670,000) in damages." No damage done at all. If anything, this will attract even more visitors, women who want their photo taken in the same spot just like that model (maybe not all of them topless). This is now a sensation / f

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Bill wrote: > On 15/01/2014 8:45 AM, Yolanda Rowe wrote: > > Talk about an over-reach! Sure, the pair (pardon the pun) showed poor > > judgement. Issuing one indecent exposure ticket and banning the > > subject and her cellphone shooter from the site would have been > > sufficient. > They don't ha

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Pardon my lack of experience with NYC's topless laws; my family taught me to keep mine on in public. That said, the owners of the property really are a greedy bunch of witless of wonders. Yonnie On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Attila Boros wrote: > "The owners seek $1.1m (£670,000) in damages.

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Attila Boros
"The owners seek $1.1m (£670,000) in damages." No damage done at all. If anything, this will attract even more visitors, women who want their photo taken in the same spot just like that model (maybe not all of them topless). This is now a sensation / free publicity / whatever, they should be happy

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Bill
On 15/01/2014 8:45 AM, Yolanda Rowe wrote: Talk about an over-reach! Sure, the pair (pardon the pun) showed poor judgement. Issuing one indecent exposure ticket and banning the subject and her cellphone shooter from the site would have been sufficient. It's a shame that we have deteriorated into

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Yolanda Rowe wrote: > Issuing one indecent exposure ticket My understanding is that it's legal for women to be topless in NYC. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please vis

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Talk about an over-reach! Sure, the pair (pardon the pun) showed poor judgement. Issuing one indecent exposure ticket and banning the subject and her cellphone shooter from the site would have been sufficient. It's a shame that we have deteriorated into such a greedy, litigious society. Corporate

SV: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-15 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Mark! -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Holy crap in a bun. How far out of proportion can something be pushed before it reaches escape velocity? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, plea

Re: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Interesting indeed, especially if he really was simply shooting with the same old P&S or camera phone as all the other tourists. $1.1m bucks? Holy crap in a bun. How far out of proportion can something be pushed before it reaches escape velocity? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Steve Cottrell w

OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!

2014-01-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
Interesting! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.