I'm late to this thread, but with many years of experience as a
mechanic and engine builder, I can say that what WD40 does is
displace moisture. So, short term, it can help prevent corrosion. For
long term storage, it won't provide any substantial protection.
Paul
On Aug 15, 2007, at 1:08
On 8/15/07, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody see a practical lubricant here? Anything even remotely slippery
or greasy or friction reducing? How about a material that might feasibly cover
a material with an oxidation resistant coating?
From what I've read elsewhere it's silicone
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
The Vance Hines Pro-Stock (motorcycle) drag race team sprays WD-40
into the intake tracts of their engines (turning over but not running)
after every run to prevent corrosion. They have a
understatementpretty
On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Drag racing engines are extremely specialized devices, Mark.
Not Pro-Stock: Aluminum block with cast iron sleeves for the bores.
From a corrosion standpoint they're exactly like any other street bike
engine.
Sigh. Squirting some light oil
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Drag racing engines are extremely specialized devices, Mark.
Not Pro-Stock: Aluminum block with cast iron sleeves for the bores.
From a corrosion standpoint they're exactly like any other street bike
engine.
Sigh.
of problems that occur in
the more mundane sort of engines. Race engines have their own unique issues
to contend with.
Kenneth Waller
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On Aug 14
On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
... This is a waste of time.
Yes, that is correct. But the reason WD40 is unsuitable for the
latter has nothing to do with it being hydroscopic or not, but due
to the fact that it evaporates relatively quickly, making it
unsuitable for
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
... This is a waste of time.
Yes, that is correct. But the reason WD40 is unsuitable for the
latter has nothing to do with it being hydroscopic or not, but due
to the fact that it evaporates relatively quickly, making
At 08:25 AM 16/08/2007, Adam Maas wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
... This is a waste of time.
Yes, that is correct. But the reason WD40 is unsuitable for the
latter has nothing to do with it being hydroscopic or not, but due
to the fact
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On 8/13/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain
From: Digital Image Studio
On 14/08/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that creeps works.
Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
From:
keith_w
However, all caveats about not assuming it's an apply once and forget
about it product are totally true.
Same people who assume you never have to change the oil in a car.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
from water dispersal formulation #40. As such, it is
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:59 AM, keith_w wrote:
Tell that to the people whose engine blocks needed stripping and
rebuilding, Mark.
G
That comment is just a teeny bit obscure, GDG...
Elucidate a little?
Several of the jobs I did in years past had to do with people who had
built up an engine
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:59 AM, keith_w wrote:
Tell that to the people whose engine blocks needed stripping and
rebuilding, Mark.
G
That comment is just a teeny bit obscure, GDG...
Elucidate a little?
Several of the jobs I did in years past had to do with people
keith_w wrote:
I'm unable to explain that phenomenon, Godfrey.
Perhaps a coastal environment in proximity to a large body of salt
water like the Pacific Ocean?
WD-40 was formulated to be miscible with petroleum oil, to be water
displacing
(which it demonstrably does) and it's very low
Mark Roberts wrote:
keith_w wrote:
[...]
I'll keep reading. Interesting subject.
We may even get rid of some pre-conceptions here! g
Man, we couldn't even begin to count the urban legends about WD-40
(almost all of them supported by anecdotal evidence of some sort)!
Like, relieves
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...
keith_w wrote:
I'm unable to explain that phenomenon, Godfrey.
Perhaps a coastal environment in proximity to a large body of salt
water like the Pacific Ocean?
WD-40 was formulated
On 14/08/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html
Same stuff they sell as WD-40 here in the states.
Hmm, Oz consumer laws are quite strict and well policed so I would be
very very surprised if they had managed to advertise protective
properties for many
My experience is that WD-40 is a great way to dry mechanical/electrical stuff
out. But it is not a good long term protectant, nor a good lubricant; using it
as such is not the best idea. Going back to the thread, it would work pretty
well if you sprayed it into your bicycle frame once a week in
William Robb wrote:
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From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...
http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html
I like Jig-A-Loo's website much better
http://www.jigaloo.com/en/
The product works like a hot damn too
On 15/08/07, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I believe you, William, but...for what?
I found the ingredients on Jig-A-Loo's site, and don't see anything in it's
constituent parts that would act as a protectant.
Their Material Safety Data Sheet does call it a lubricant, but how they have
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 15/08/07, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Does anybody see a practical lubricant here? Anything even remotely slippery
or greasy or friction reducing? How about a material that might feasibly
cover
a material with an oxidation resistant coating?
I've
From:
Digital Image Studio
On 14/08/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html
Same stuff they sell as WD-40 here in the states.
Hmm, Oz consumer laws are quite strict and well policed so I would be
very very surprised if they had managed to
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From: keith_w
Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...
I like Jig-A-Loo's website much better
http://www.jigaloo.com/en/
The product works like a hot damn too.
William Robb
Oh, I believe you, William, but...for what?
Does anybody see
On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:26 AM, keith_w wrote:
Steel or aluminum?
Cylinders were steel or austenitic cast iron.
Inside or outside?
Not my department.
How long stored (left without attention)?
Over a winter or two.
I'm unable to explain that phenomenon, Godfrey.
I'm not trying to. I'm
On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
The Vance Hines Pro-Stock (motorcycle) drag race team sprays WD-40
into the intake tracts of their engines (turning over but not running)
after every run to prevent corrosion. They have a
understatementpretty good/understatement record of
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:26 AM, keith_w wrote:
Steel or aluminum?
Cylinders were steel or austenitic cast iron.
Inside or outside?
Not my department.
How long stored (left without attention)?
Over a winter or two.
I'm unable to explain that phenomenon,
I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was
looking for a new bike. Then I had the big DUH! moment when I saw the
old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' garage. They
gave it to me on my 16th birthday in 1984. New tires (the old ones were
23 years
On 8/13/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was
looking for a new bike. Then I had the big DUH! moment when I saw the
old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' garage. They
gave it to me on my 16th birthday
On 13/08/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was
looking for a new bike. Then I had the big DUH! moment when I saw the
old Takara Deluxe Touring 12 speed hanging in my parents' garage. They
gave it to me on my 16th
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Sent: 13 August 2007 18:43
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I decided to do more road biking rather than mountain biking and was
looking for a new bike. Then I had the big DUH! moment
when
On 8/13/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like quite a nice bike. Looks like a lugged steel frame - it'll
probably last forever.
It could. In countries and areas like Canada that salt in the winter,
one must be very careful to oil the inside of the tubes at least once
a year to prevent
On 8/13/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip to prevent tubes from the inside outsnip
That should have been, ...to prevent tubes from ~rusting~ from the
inside out...
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frank theriault wrote:
On 8/13/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like quite a nice bike. Looks like a lugged steel frame - it'll
probably last forever.
It could. In countries and areas like Canada that salt in the winter,
one must be very careful to oil the inside of the tubes at
I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese
lugged steel
frames. How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside? Just
take the
seat post out and look inside?
I don't know - your lbs may be able to help you find out. But if it's
been kept in a dry garage all that time
On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 02:52:39PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
A vintage '80's steed.
And, yeah, upgrading the brakes is a very good idea. Up to the 80's,
brakes pretty much sucked...
The had vacuum brakes in the 80s?
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I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese
lugged steel
frames. How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside? Just
take the
seat post out and look inside
On 8/13/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read good things about the quality of mid'80s Japanese lugged steel
frames. How can I tell if it is rusting on the inside? Just take the
seat post out and look inside?
I'm sure it's very good quality.
You take out the seatpost and rub
On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that creeps works.
Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
and down tubes, and to be safe, while you've to the BB out, spray up
the seat and down tubes. That
On 14/08/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that creeps works.
Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
and down tubes, and to be safe, while
On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
Not the stuff they sell as WD-40 here:
http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html
Sorry, but it's exactly that stuff. I have made a lot of money in the
past fixing things that people protected with it. It was never
designed to be a surface
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 14/08/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Around here, spraying WD 40, or some thinnish oil that creeps works.
Spray down the seat tube, take off the headset and spray both the top
and down tubes,
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
from water dispersal formulation #40. As such, it is hygroscopic:
it's designed to suck up water,
Urban legends.
It was developed
Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
from water dispersal formulation #40. As such, it is hygroscopic:
it's designed to suck up water,
Urban
At 06:56 AM 14/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
I've been informed that it's slightly acidic it eats into aluminium (?)
For this reason (and maybe others) it's not approved for use in aircraft
maintenance.
On the other hand
At 10:10 AM 14/08/2007, David Savage wrote:
At 06:56 AM 14/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
I've been informed that it's slightly acidic it eats into aluminium (?)
For this reason (and maybe others) it's not approved for use
Not according to the information at the WD-40 web site. It was
originaly used to protect the skin of the Atlas Missile, which would be
counter productive since it was made out of aircraft aluminum.
David Savage wrote:
At 06:56 AM 14/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40
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From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...
http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html
I like Jig-A-Loo's website much better
http://www.jigaloo.com/en/
The product works like a hot damn too.
William Robb
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On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Beware: Spraying WD40 on steel or aluminum surfaces *promotes* rust.
WD40 is a water dispersal developed for the navy ... the name comes
from water dispersal formulation #40. As such, it is hygroscopic:
it's designed
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From: David Savage
Subject: Re: OT - a little late on the bicycle thing...
On the other hand it works really well as a lubricant when
drilling/turning
aluminium (At low speeds. It smells pretty bad when it burns :-).
It makes a great flame thrower.
William
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