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2020-12-10 Thread David Mann
This just turned up in my BBC news feed today... a short video showing what's happening with the Anglican Cathedral in the city centre. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-55256198 The city's Catholic cathedral is being deconstructed and rebuilt on another site: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/nation

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2020-12-08 Thread David Mann
On Dec 9, 2020, at 6:26 AM, John wrote: > I wonder if they could have made the new more earthquake resistant? I'm > pretty sure architects & engineers knew the principles back in the 80s. Yes they did (spurred by the Napier earthquake in 1931*), but the earthquake building standards are more a

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2020-12-08 Thread John
They could have done a better job blending the new with the old. I wonder if they could have made the new more earthquake resistant? I'm pretty sure architects & engineers knew the principles back in the 80s. On 12/8/2020 03:06:23, David Mann wrote: On Dec 7, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Bob Pdml wrot

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2020-12-08 Thread Bob Pdml
On 8 Dec 2020, at 08:07, David Mann wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: > >> The facade of the church looks as if it might be rescue-able. There is a lot >> of ‘facadism’ going on over here where they demolish everything but the >> front of the building and put something

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2020-12-08 Thread David Mann
On Dec 7, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: > The facade of the church looks as if it might be rescue-able. There is a lot > of ‘facadism’ going on over here where they demolish everything but the front > of the building and put something modern behind it. There's quite a bit of that going on

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2020-12-07 Thread John
What's the context? On 12/7/2020 09:08:02, Bob Pdml wrote: On 7 Dec 2020, at 11:20, Alan C wrote: Remember this one? Facade preservation | Alan Cole | Flickr Indeed I do. I looked for one of my own photos but

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2020-12-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
WOW! That's quite a blaze. I am familiar with the church, and I thought of you when I saws the news last night. Another tragedy for New York. I'm sorry that you have to deal with smoke and odor, but I am quite glad you are safe and well. Take care, Dan Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pe

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2020-12-07 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 7 Dec 2020, at 11:20, Alan C wrote: > > Remember this one? > > Facade preservation | Alan Cole | Flickr > Indeed I do. I looked for one of my own photos but couldn’t find it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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2020-12-07 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks for everyone's concerns... Bob, the smokiness is very little .. I'm just extra sensitive to it .. and it already has gone.. certainly doesn't require cleaning... (well,could use some cleaning all the time but  not because of smoke ;-) ) RIght now if I go right up to the window and sniff

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2020-12-07 Thread Alan C
Remember this one? Facade preservation | Alan Cole | Flickr Alan C On 07-Dec-20 12:07 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: I hope you get the smokiness out of your apartment quickly. Will it require cleaning? if so is there a way

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2020-12-07 Thread Bulent Celasun
Good to know that you are fine. Your message reminded me of the fact I did not yet install the smoke alarm I got some months ago. >well it is 2020 Let's hope its mission is not to prepare us for the 2021. Bulent - http://patolo

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2020-12-07 Thread Bob Pdml
I hope you get the smokiness out of your apartment quickly. Will it require cleaning? if so is there a way for you to get help with that? The facade of the church looks as if it might be rescue-able. There is a lot of ‘facadism’ going on over here where they demolish everything but the front of

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2020-12-06 Thread jcoyle
bject: OT - where there's fire there is smoke :-( IN brief the fire that burned down the historic church and two other buildings that you MAY have read about or seen on line is less than a block from my apt. these vids and snaps from the Gothamist tell the story.  my apartment is smokey now

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2020-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
On 12/6/2020 6:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:37 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: IN brief the fire that burned down the historic church and two other buildings that you MAY have read about or seen on line is less than a block from my apt. Just like Notre Dame, your own little tast

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2020-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
No question - it was arson - but that is still in the news media, I think, as "under investigation"  My neighbors talk to the firemen ... and reports from other local residents about the speed with which it started, etc. smoke fading from my office now thank goodness ann On 12/6/2020 7:16 PM,

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2020-12-06 Thread John
I read the fire started in an abandoned building next door to the church. That same building had an accidental electrical fire back in February. Might be arson or it might be another accident. On 12/6/2020 17:37:01, ann sanfedele wrote: IN brief the fire that burned down the historic church a

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2020-12-06 Thread Larry Colen
> On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:37 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > IN brief the fire that burned down the historic church and two other > buildings that you MAY have read about or seen on line is less than a block > from my apt. Just like Notre Dame, your own little taste of Paris. > > these vids and

OT - where there's fire there is smoke :-(

2020-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
IN brief the fire that burned down the historic church and two other buildings that you MAY have read about or seen on line is less than a block from my apt. these vids and snaps from the Gothamist tell the story.  my apartment is smokey now and is the worst in my office  .. it wasn't yesterda