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Looked like a weak attempt to start another pun thread to me. On 7/12/2016 2:15 AM, mike wilson wrote: Is that Pirate or Ebonics? On 12 July 2016 at 02:15 "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: Well, the new British PM May be a woman. Dan Matyola

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Is that Pirate or Ebonics? > On 12 July 2016 at 02:15 "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > > > Well, the new British PM May be a woman. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Gonz

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y a cat)." -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 1:00 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: OT Brexit Aftermath Politics in the US is insane. It appears almost rational, howeve

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e- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 1:00 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: OT Brexit Aftermath Politics in the US is insane. It appears almost rational, however, compared with what has been

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Well, the new British PM May be a woman. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Gonz wrote: > Hear hear! > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > On 9 Jul 2016, at 01:48,

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Hear hear! On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > On 9 Jul 2016, at 01:48, Stanley Halpin wrote: >> >> >>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>> >>> The EU certainly needs reforming, but not

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On 9 Jul 2016, at 01:48, Stanley Halpin wrote: > > >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> The EU certainly needs reforming, but not necessarily in the ways that >> tories such as Fellowes want, and the UK should have been

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> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > The EU certainly needs reforming, but not necessarily in the ways that tories > such as Fellowes want, and the UK should have been part of it; in fact, > leading the reform, effectively, and not just grandstanding for

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He misrepresents the position, trotting out some of the standard Leave claims in a very caricatural way. The EU certainly needs reforming, but not necessarily in the ways that tories such as Fellowes want, and the UK should have been part of it; in fact, leading the reform, effectively, and

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Scroll down the page and there's a transcript. On 7/8/2016 3:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Rather than force us all to listen to the pompous ass for the whole thing, perhaps you could summarise the reasons for us. B On 8 Jul 2016, at 20:31, John wrote: I was listening to

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Listening to it again now, but the "player" on their web site doesn't allow me to download it as a podcast, so it might be a bit difficult to transcribe. I'll give it a try, but don't expect much. On 7/8/2016 3:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Rather than force us all to listen to the pompous ass for

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On 8/7/16, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: >It has been a pleasure, thanks for the conversation ! Cheers mate -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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Rather than force us all to listen to the pompous ass for the whole thing, perhaps you could summarise the reasons for us. B > On 8 Jul 2016, at 20:31, John wrote: > > I was listening to the Diane Rehm Show on NPR yesterday and near the end > of the interview with

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I was listening to the Diane Rehm Show on NPR yesterday and near the end of the interview with Julian Fellows they touched on Brexit. His comments are the first time I've heard anyone articulate reasons for leaving the EU that I could really understand.

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On 2016-07-06 11:42 , Steve Cottrell wrote: Like you, I love my country and I don't want to see it watered down by a conglomerate entity composed of politicians from across the union, some with their own agendas that bear no parallel with the UK's interests. i'm just reading this thread

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Apparently, Gove was eliminated in the first round of voting for Tory leader, and the final choice is between two women, Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom. I gather the latter was a leader of the LEAVE movement, and is somewhat more conservative than May. I understand that whomever is chosen will

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- Mensaje original - De: Steve Cottrell >I am a supporter of the EU, but I do not want my country to become a state in the USE. I can't see how it would be possible. There are too many diverse societies with too many different backgrounds, cultures, languages

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On 7/7/16, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: > would have been harboring a long term resentment about the abolition of >the British Pint of Ale in favor of some mandated nonsensical metric >abomination and I would probably have voted to Leave just because of >that one among many

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On 7/7/2016 5:43 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 7/7/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: ... keeping in mind that I'm not directly affected by the decision, so I don't feel any need to tell them what to do. But you will anyway ;-) Of course, but it doesn't bother me that much that they're

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My own impression is that status quo ante is not feasible, and that saddens me. I thought the EU was a good thing and without the British to keep it within reasonable bounds, it is likely to spiral out of control. On the other hand, if I were a British citizen, I would have been harboring a

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On 7/7/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >... keeping in mind that I'm not directly affected by the decision, so I >don't feel any need to tell them what to do. But you will anyway ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

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On 7/6/2016 1:42 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 6/7/16, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: How close do you want to get? As closest as needed in order to be able to make decisions when there is a problem knocking at the door: refugees, terrorism, wars in neighbor countries, financial

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On Jul 5, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 4/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Is this right? The PM resigned, and then the Brexit leaders in his party, >> Johnson and Gove, said they are not interested in the job, > > Not true. Michael

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On 6/7/16, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: >>How close do you want to get? > > >As closest as needed in order to be able to make decisions when there is >a problem knocking at the door: refugees, terrorism, wars in neighbor >countries, financial crisis...instead of the current: 'we

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De: Steve Cottrell On 5/7/16, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: >>Interesting conversation. >> >>As a citizen of 'the rest of Europe' my view of the UK as a member of >>the EU is: > >>- They just want the good things of the Union (free trade) but not the >>bad

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On 7/5/2016 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jul 5, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 5/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: Is Britain still mired in the class struggle? Always has and always will :-( Frankly, the USA is not very

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> On Jul 5, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 5/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Is Britain still mired in the class struggle? > > Always has and always will :-( Frankly, the USA is not very different. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

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Am 05.07.16 um 19:20 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Does this also mean that the three other member states should not get 'special treatment' with their opt-outs also? I'd have no problem with applying the same rules to everyone. Ralf

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On 5/7/16, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >only under the same conditions that apply to all >other member states. No more special treatment. Does this also mean that the three other member states should not get 'special treatment' with their opt-outs also?

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On 5/7/16, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'd be sad to see them go and I'd be quite happy if they still changed >their minds but then only under the same conditions that apply to all >other member states. No more special treatment. I just don't understand the special

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On 5/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Is Britain still mired in the class struggle? Always has and always will :-( -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

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On 5/7/16, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: >Interesting conversation. > >As a citizen of 'the rest of Europe' my view of the UK as a member of >the EU is: > >- They just want the good things of the Union (free trade) but not the >bad things (immigration,...). Brexit leaders promised

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Am 05.07.16 um 17:11 schrieb Jaume Lahuerta: - They just want the good things of the Union (free trade) but not the bad things (immigration,...). Brexit leaders promised to achieve this perfect equation. - They are (were) in, but with their own rules (currency, somehow restricted

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Interesting article. "Brexit is about more than the EU: it’s about class, inequality, and voters feeling excluded from politics." Is Britain still mired in the class struggle? Inequality, especially economic inequality, is a huge problem for all economically developed democracies. Dan Matyola

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for the Europeans that are willing to build a closer and more supportive Union. Regards, Jaume De: Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> Para: pentax list <PDML@pdml.net> Enviado: Martes 5 de julio de 2016 16:52 Asunto: Re: OT Brexit Aftermath On 5/7/16, Danie

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On 5/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Doesn't that make the referendum meaningless? Yes and no. We don't have proportional representation - we elect MPs to look after our interests in parliament. With the way our system works, I would have been in favour of our elected MPs

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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 5:07 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > if a general election is called and (say) a new Labour Leader > (who would be effectively campaigning to be PM) stood on a pro-EU ticket > promising a turnaround stance on the EU - effectively saying if you vote > us in,

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On 4/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Is this right? The PM resigned, and then the Brexit leaders in his party, >Johnson and Gove, said they are not interested in the job, Not true. Michael Gove is standing for election as leader of the Conservative Party, which effectively

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On Jul 5, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > Neither of the major parties has achieved an absolute majority in the > lower house and minority government is looking as the most likely > result. I wouldn't worry too much about nobody having a majority. The last

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Meanwhile downunder, we had a Federal election last weekend. The current Prime Minister decided to call an early election for both houses of Parliament because he wanted a more friendly Senate that would pass some Government legislation that was being held up by the Opposition with the help of a

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Welcome to Europe. Jostein Den 4. juli 2016 20.00.14 CEST, skrev "Daniel J. Matyola" : >Politics in the US is insane. It appears almost rational, however, >compared with what has been going on in England and Europe after the >Brexit >vote. > >Is this right? The PM

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Politics in the US is insane. It appears almost rational, however, compared with what has been going on in England and Europe after the Brexit vote. Is this right? The PM resigned, and then the Brexit leaders in his party, Johnson and Gove, said they are not interested in the job, leaving the