Re: Pentax F-series lenses - Contrarian

2004-06-27 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Two words here are professional standards. You wouldn't want to shoot a wedding without a 2.8 lens, in a church. With a fast lens you do not have to use flash (or can use it just to spicy up the photographs, not as a sole means of illumination). Of course many slower lenses are as good optically, s

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Andre Langevin
...the Tak K 135/2.5 was so inexpensive, I figured "Why not?" keith You saved the price of a few films but all your films will bear the mark of the cheaper lens. If you take a lot of photographs, used medium aperture lenses are cheap, film is expensive... Andre

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Andre Langevin
Hi Keith. I'll expand a bit my commentary... Bad construction and a lot of flare. Stay away from non-SMC lenses. I forgot who said that, but... what is meant by "bad construction?" This started out as a Pentax lens. I assume a Pentax design. Did they goof? I guess we'll never know, but it seems t

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Keith Whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, I don't know about all the Takumar K-mount lenses, but I have used the Takumar K 135/2.5. In comparison to the M 135/3.5, I could see the difference on my 3x5 inch prints. The Takumar was fuzzier in a non-flare situation. This is why I avoid Takumar K-mount le

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Rfsindg
Keith, I don't know about all the Takumar K-mount lenses, but I have used the Takumar K 135/2.5. In comparison to the M 135/3.5, I could see the difference on my 3x5 inch prints. The Takumar was fuzzier in a non-flare situation. This is why I avoid Takumar K-mount lenses. Regards, Bob S. Ke

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Keith Whaley
Peter J. Alling wrote: You seemed to me that you were, I just wished to correct what appeared to me to be a misapprehension. No other criticism implied. Okay. I did learn something from the conversation, however. I had confirmation that it was merely rebadged. Don't ask me why, but I need to kn

Re: Pentax F-series lenses - Contrarian

2004-06-26 Thread Pentxuser
I have been following this thread with some interest waiting for the time to put my 2 cents in. I learned that my FA lenses are no good. It's been suggested that unless a lens is an f2.8, it does not measure up to professional standards. Puuuease! This is an elitist attitude based on hav

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Keith Whaley
Alan Chan wrote: It's very cheap. How can you go wrong? Was it "very cheap" when it was sold under the Pentax-A label? Just wondering, as I usually think of a Pentax labeled lens as having some minimum level of quality... And, for that matter, a Takumar lens was once an indicator of a superior

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Keith Whaley
Alan Chan wrote: It's very cheap. How can you go wrong? Since it was given to me, I can't! keith Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Okay, that's one opinion... Any others? Bad construction and a lot of flare. Stay away from non-SMC lenses.

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-26 Thread Keith Whaley
Peter J. Alling wrote: Pentax didn't stop making it, they just started selling it under their Takumar brand. I gathered as much. Sorry for the implication that it was otherwise. I'll be more careful around you in the future. Prior to K mount all Asahi lenses were Takumars. Yes, I'm aware of t

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
It's very cheap. How can you go wrong? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Okay, that's one opinion... Any others? Bad construction and a lot of flare. Stay away from non-SMC lenses. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protect

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Peter J. Alling
Pentax didn't stop making it, they just started selling it under their Takumar brand. Prior to K mount all Asahi lenses were Takumars. Keith Whaley wrote: Gonz wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: Fred wrote: I concur. The "SMC PENTAX-A 70-210/4" has been a very sharp and good performer overall for me

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Herb Chong
D]> To: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Pentax F-series lenses?? > I did try it on a DSLR, and found a peculiar thing, which exhibited > itself again with ATX 20-35 f/2.8 - in contrasty areas with blown-out > small highlights, the h

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Fred
> I didn't know there was a "A 70-200/4". There is only the FA > 70-200/4-5.6 in Boz's site. Look for it under the non-SMC lenses page. Fred

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Gonz
Keith Whaley wrote: Fred wrote: I concur. The "SMC PENTAX-A 70-210/4" has been a very sharp and good performer overall for me. I've not purchased the 80-200 2.8 because this lens is so good that its hard to justify the expense and size for just one more stop and probably marginal sharpness impr

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Okay, that's one opinion... Any others? keith Andre Langevin wrote: Have you any idea how the Pentax-A 70-200mm f/4.0 compares? Only a silly 10mm shorter! Who'd know? keith whaley Bad construction and a lot of flare. Stay away from non-SMC lenses. Andre

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
Have you any idea how the Pentax-A 70-200mm f/4.0 compares? Only a silly 10mm shorter! Who'd know? keith whaley Bad construction and a lot of flare. Stay away from non-SMC lenses. Andre

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Fred wrote: I concur. The "SMC PENTAX-A 70-210/4" has been a very sharp and good performer overall for me. I've not purchased the 80-200 2.8 because this lens is so good that its hard to justify the expense and size for just one more stop and probably marginal sharpness improvement. I'm quite h

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Fred
> I concur. The "SMC PENTAX-A 70-210/4" has been a very sharp and good > performer overall for me. I've not purchased the 80-200 2.8 because > this lens is so good that its hard to justify the expense and size for > just one more stop and probably marginal sharpness improvement. I'm quite happy

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Fred
> For me, the F series is the K series of the Pentax auto focus > lenses. ...and if you're a lover of nice manual focus lenses, that's kinda sad... That's probably a pretty good analogy, though. Fred

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Gonz
I concur. The "SMC PENTAX-A 70-210/4" has been a very sharp and good performer overall for me. I've not purchased the 80-200 2.8 because this lens is so good that its hard to justify the expense and size for just one more stop and probably marginal sharpness improvement. rg Alan Chan wrote: I

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Fred
> While an "overall impression" can be delivered in a single number, > you'd need commentary to determine how that overall impression was > reached. ...and every user would want to determine his/her own method of "averaging" or "combining" ratings to come up with that number... Fred

RE: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-25 Thread Jens Bladt
ly form some kind of user organisation to provide the necessary tests. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Frantisek Vlcek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. juni 2004 08:44 Til: Nenad Djurdjevic Emne: Re: Pentax F-series lenses?

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-24 Thread Arnold Stark
Hello whereever possible, I replaced my FA lenses with F lenses because of the better build quality, the better materials, the better feel, and also the better mechanics. It is true that the focusing ring of F lenses is narrow. However, once you get used to the narrowness, the actual focussing

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-24 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
ND> I have never owned a A70-210/4 but I notice everyone seems to have agood ND> opinion of it even though www.photodo.com gives it only a grade 2.2. By ND> comparison the F 70-210/4-5.6 is given a rating of 3.4. Could it be that Just do not believe all lens tests. Simple. Judge for yourself. T

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-24 Thread Alan Chan
F lenses are hard to find used, and presumably impossible to find new. They aren't exactly attractive, and they don't have the build quality of even the A lenses. Manual focus with them is not great (in common with early AF lenses from other manufacturers). Most of the good ones appear to be opti

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
The F* 300mm f/4.5 is pretty highly regarded, by me at least. Its so sharp you could cut yourself just looking at the slides. Unfortunately, it doesn't do well with A2X-S. :-( A lot of people choose this lens over the FA* version as it has a tripod mount. Optically the two lenses are identical

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread David Mann
On Jun 24, 2004, at 5:13 AM, That Guy wrote: I don't see much mention of these lenses on this list. (snip) The F* 300mm f/4.5 is pretty highly regarded, by me at least. Its so sharp you could cut yourself just looking at the slides. A lot of people choose this lens over the FA* version as it has

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread Antonio Aparicio
I think I saw one on ebay earlier today ... A. On 23 Jun 2004, at 22:33, Alan Chan wrote: I guess it's because most "good" F lenses are rare and hard to find now. I have been looking for a mint F50/1.4 for years but seen none so far. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I don't see much ment

RE: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
I guess it's because most "good" F lenses are rare and hard to find now. I have been looking for a mint F50/1.4 for years but seen none so far. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I don't see much mention of these lenses on this list. I see lots of A, M, and FA talk of course. I've recently

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Nah, looks are important. Performance is for nerds. A. On 23 Jun 2004, at 21:39, Kenneth Waller wrote: "Yes but ... F series lenses look silly" Yeah but their performance is what is important! Subject: Re: Pentax F-series lenses?? Yes but ... F series lenses look silly. Were they de

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
"Yes but ... F series lenses look silly" Yeah but their performance is what is important! Subject: Re: Pentax F-series lenses?? Yes but ... F series lenses look silly. Were they designed for the army or somethin? PeoplePC Online A

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread John Whittingham
- From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:48:23 +0200 Subject: Re: Pentax F-series lenses?? > Yes but ... F series lenses look silly. Were they designed for the > army or somethin? > > Antonio > > . Designed by som

Re: Pentax F-series lenses??

2004-06-23 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Yes but ... F series lenses look silly. Were they designed for the army or somethin? Antonio . Designed by someone who was heavily influenced by On 23 Jun 2004, at 19:13, That Guy wrote: I don't see much mention of these lenses on this list. I see lots of A, M, and FA talk of course. I've rec