Re: Pentax FF v APS

2020-08-01 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
For me, the only remaining advantage of FF over smaller sensor size is the smaller depth of field of FF, when this can be simulated nicely in software, I will be ready to step over to smaller sensor sizes. Mirrorless is the future, I think, as it gives more freedom to the lens designer because

Re: Pentax FF v APS

2020-08-01 Thread Henk Terhell
It will be a challenge for Ricoh/Pentax to frame a new FF DSLR successor to the K-1. But I don't doubt that there is a  future for FF though the camera market is shrinking. The trend for FF consumer models is now set by Canon EOS RP and Nikon Z5 with a price below that of fully featured

Pentax FF v APS

2020-08-01 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jul 31, 2020, at 1:34 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: > > Not that this provides any new information, but there is now a dedicated > webpage of the Ricoh/Pentax product planning guy on progress of the new > APS-C flagship. > https://pentaxofficial.com/en/5848/

Re: what is the latest street date of the pentax FF DSLR?

2016-01-26 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016, at 09:19 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > april 1? how appropriate... Rumours are an announcement on Feb 18 which probably sees it in the shops mid March - or maybe even April 1. Remembering the April 1 joke about the full frame Pentax a few years ago, if the people at Ricoh

what is the latest street date of the pentax FF DSLR?

2016-01-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
april 1? how appropriate... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-24 Thread John
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now" Don't know if it has expired or Facebook just doesn't like me because I don't have an account. On 10/23/2015 4:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Just noticed this on DP Review:

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-24 Thread P.J. Alling
I don't know, that whole dial seems to be less than well thought out. I at first thought it was a direct access dial for a set of menu sub settings, but it looks like it might be direct access to certain drive settings. If all it is, is direct access to more menus it's kind of a waste of

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-24 Thread Larry Colen
Cotty posted a link to better shots anyways. On October 24, 2015 4:37:35 AM MST, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: >On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> I did see one posted on facebook, and I don't know if this link will >work for others,

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-24 Thread P.J. Alling
Facebook doesn't just dislike you because you don't give them all your data, they actively hate you. But then Mark Zuckerberg is an annoying little feminine hygiene product, and I despise him right back. On 10/24/2015 1:08 PM, John wrote: "Sorry, this content isn't available right now"

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I did see one posted on facebook, and I don't know if this link will work for > others, fb is funny that way: > > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153695609286115=p.10153695609286115=3 "Sorry, this content isn't

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Collin B
>On 10/23/2015 6:47 AM, Collin B wrote: >>> And they are giving us a few months to save up for it. >> >> Because those people at PDML will buy just about anything. >> >> > >I think I said about 10 years ago that they could put a full frame >sensor on a turd and I would buy it. >Your intimation

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/23/2015 12:29 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Just noticed this on DP Review: http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr It looks as if they're using physical dials to replace lots of formerly menu-driven controls. To which

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Bill
On 10/23/2015 6:47 AM, Collin B wrote: And they are giving us a few months to save up for it. Because those people at PDML will buy just about anything. I think I said about 10 years ago that they could put a full frame sensor on a turd and I would buy it. Your intimation that this new

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Collin B
> And they are giving us a few months to save up for it. Because those people at PDML will buy just about anything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: >Just noticed this on DP Review: > >http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr That's definitely not a mock-up from a 3-D printer. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Bill
On 10/22/2015 9:40 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: It looks huge. Unless the rear screen is TV sized, I expect it will be somewhat larger than the K20 was, but not by much. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Bill
On 10/22/2015 9:17 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Just noticed this on DP Review: http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr And they are giving us a few months to save up for it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Darren Addy
Anybody notice the dial has FIVE User settings? On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > >>Just noticed this on DP Review: >> >>http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr > > It

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: >Just noticed this on DP Review: > >http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr It looks as if they're using physical dials to replace lots of formerly menu-driven controls. To which all I can say is wonderful, wonderful,

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Interrupting! K-3 has three drive modes; H, M, L. Four, actually, according to DP Review: Single Continuous High Continuous Medium Continuous Low I suspect the new Full-frame has merely eliminated the superfluous "Continuous Medium" Probably. I

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Bill
On 10/23/2015 8:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Interrupting! K-3 has three drive modes; H, M, L. Four, actually, according to DP Review: Single Continuous High Continuous Medium Continuous Low I suspect the new Full-frame has merely eliminated the

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread David Mann
I don't see a Facebook button. Maybe it'll link to phones to upload selfies, or maybe it'll run apps. Cheers, Dave > On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:28 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > > Anybody notice the dial has FIVE User settings? > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mark Roberts

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/23/2015 3:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: I like the extra dials, there are sure a lot of them. What I don't like is the smaller top LCD, probably make seeing the cameras present settings more difficult in the dark. I keep the rear screen on back turned off unless I want

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
P.J. Alling wrote: I like the extra dials, there are sure a lot of them. What I don't like is the smaller top LCD, probably make seeing the cameras present settings more difficult in the dark. I keep the rear screen on back turned off unless I want to review an image. What I'd really like to

RE: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Bob W
> the Pentax that remains nameless, According to my sources it's going to be called the Pentax FFS! B > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling > > > >> Just noticed this on DP Review: > >> > >>

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: >> the Pentax that remains nameless, > >According to my sources it's going to be called the Pentax FFS! If they really named it that I'd buy two of them! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
Brian Walters wrote: Just noticed this on DP Review: http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr I'm frustrated that there are not any reliable clear photos of the top of the camera. I did see one posted on facebook, and I don't know if

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/23/2015 3:17 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/23/2015 3:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: I like the extra dials, there are sure a lot of them. What I don't like is the smaller top LCD, probably make seeing the cameras present settings more difficult in the dark. I keep the

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
P.J. Alling wrote: I think you mean 5D. Yea, you're right, but it's a Canon product, and I only really care about their printers... I guess a 5D would have to be made by Nikon. Wait, I meant D5... Nikon or Caterpillar. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) --

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread steve harley
On 2015-10-23 14:42 , Larry Colen wrote: I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. (some C word) horizontal / landscape ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote: >Interrupting! K-3 has three drive modes; H, M, L. Four, actually, according to DP Review: Single Continuous High Continuous Medium Continuous Low I suspect the new Full-frame has merely eliminated the superfluous "Continuous Medium" -- Mark Roberts - Photography &

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Bill
On 10/23/2015 3:05 PM, J C OConnell wrote: highlights/lowlights? jco On 10/23/2015 4:53 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2015-10-23 14:42 , Larry Colen wrote: I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. (some C word) horizontal / landscape ? Continuous high, continuous

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Jack Davis
My limited brain was thinking(?) only of burst mode. J Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Jack Davis wrote: > >> Interrupting! K-3 has three drive modes; H, M, L. > > Four, actually, according to DP Review: > Single >

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Jack Davis
Interrupting! K-3 has three drive modes; H, M, L. J Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Larry Colen wrote: > >> I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. > > On the K3 I believe there are drive mode

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
steve harley wrote: >On 2015-10-23 14:42 , Larry Colen wrote: >> I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. > >(some C word) horizontal / landscape ? How about "(some C word" High / Low"? -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread steve harley
On 2015-10-23 15:05 , J C OConnell wrote: highlights/lowlights? yeah, more likely "(something) high / low" — i wasn't thinking clearly with my first guess -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread J C OConnell
highlights/lowlights? jco On 10/23/2015 4:53 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2015-10-23 14:42 , Larry Colen wrote: I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. (some C word) horizontal / landscape ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
steve harley wrote: On 2015-10-23 14:42 , Larry Colen wrote: I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. (some C word) horizontal / landscape ? Maybe crop? You could take a vertical APS crop out of a horizontal 24x36 sensor. That would be a clever trick. But,

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >I can pretty much guess most of them, but CH/CL has me mystified. On the K3 I believe there are drive mode options of Continuous High and Continuous Low (as well as single shot, of course). It would make sense if these designations carried over. -- Mark Roberts -

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-22 Thread P.J. Alling
It looks huge. On 10/22/2015 11:17 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Just noticed this on DP Review: http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-22 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:40 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > It looks huge. Definitely sort of huge-ish. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-22 Thread Boris Liberman
First and last... Not interested. Sorry - my hands are getting progressively weaker. On 10/23/2015 5:40, P.J. Alling wrote: It looks huge. On 10/22/2015 11:17 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Just noticed this on DP Review:

First glimpse of the Pentax FF

2015-10-22 Thread Brian Walters
Just noticed this on DP Review: http://www.adorama.com/alc/8328/article/photo-plus-2015-first-glimpse-pentax-full-frame-dslr Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/30/2014 13:52, Darren Addy wrote: the a7s performance has me thinking about selling a kidney. The body isn't terribly priced (at all, IMHO) but ... I think, I should invoke Mark here. Mark! :-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Darren Addy
. Time will tell. Based upon this plethora of sensors, it would not surprise me at all if Pentax announced not just one, but two full frame cameras in 2015... similar in form factor, but featuring different sensors. Or, like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, maybe 2015 lets Pentax FF

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote: Rather than start a new OT Sony thread, I think I'll just resurrect this one. Gosh. Thanks. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Zos Xavius
... similar in form factor, but featuring different sensors. Or, like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, maybe 2015 lets Pentax FF wishers down yet again. For the record, I'm not pining for a full frame camera. It is the low light capabilities of the a7s that interest me

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Darren Addy wrote: Rather than start a new OT Sony thread, I think I'll just resurrect this one. Gosh. Thanks. Some people care enough to recycle reuse and some don't. :) :) :) -- Life is too short to put up

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-28 Thread Mark Roberts
On November 27, 2014 5:21:11 PM EST, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2014 10:55 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. They may not be for beginners but beginners buy them in droves. I hang out

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-28 Thread Larry Colen
But will it stimulate your aperture? I have a couple of drawers worth of manual focus glass in a variety of mounts, so of I was willing to spend $1700 to be able to use several hundred dollars worth of obsolete lenses without buying film, this might be a good camera for me. On November 27,

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising thing about it the price

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising thing about it the price of $1698 for the body only. I think this pretty much forces Pentax to price their (allegedly in-the-works) FF camera at close

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Zos Xavius
The A7 has been disruptive and this will prove even more so. I know more than a few photographers that are buying them or are seriously considering it. Adding IBIS kind of seals the deal for many people. I'd be more interested if their were more affordable native lens options. Part of what has

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: pentax is not in direct competition with the sony a7ii because pentax is a DSLR with a k mount, and the sony is a mirrorless with a sony mount. With the greatest of respect, if I am in the market to buy a good camera with a kit lens, in

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
If all you want is a camera and kit lens, might as well buy a point and shoot if your buying with intent to buy multiple lenses, then the mount matters because its the lens system your stuck with. On 11/27/2014 11:02 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated,

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Darren Addy
Point taken, Cotty. I would imagine that JC is speaking from the perspective of someone who already has an inventory of Pentax glass. And in that case he may be right if one puts the emphasis on his use of the word direct. However, and short flange to sensor mirrorless camera that has an adapter

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: If all you want is a camera and kit lens, might as well buy a point and shoot if your buying with intent to buy multiple lenses, then the mount matters because its the lens system your stuck with. I want to buy a good camera with a

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. jco On 11/27/2014 11:37 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: If all you want is a camera and kit lens, might as well buy a point and shoot if your

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, J C OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. If you worked in one of the (rapidly dwindling) camera stores around the country, or spent some time observing in one, I

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising thing about it the price of $1698 for the body only. Given that Sony previously offered a full frame DSLR with massive pentaprism viewfinder for under two grand (the A850), $1700 for a mirrorless doesn't seem that surprising. I'll bet

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: I put it to you that Pentax is in direct competition with Sony and all of the above makes. The A7 would make a great body for your beloved Pentax 16 and 85 mm lenses... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Darren Addy
Just one other thought regarding the a7ii and contrasting with Pentax... Sony's announcing this camera prior to Black Friday and then announcing that it will be available/shipping for the holiday season will result in a lot of additional sales for them. Pentax NEVER seems to release products with

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. There ya go again! There are plenty of people out there who know nothing about photography who will pay that. Just like there are plenty of

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: The A7 would make a great body for your beloved Pentax 16 and 85 mm lenses... Actually I sold the K15/3.5 but I would consider buying the camera just for use with the A85/1.4 purely as a portrait rig. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: The A7 would make a great body for your beloved Pentax 16 and 85 mm lenses... Actually I sold the K15/3.5 but I would consider buying the camera just for use with the A85/1.4 purely as a portrait rig. You'd like it. I use

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Bill
On 27/11/2014 9:26 AM, J C OConnell wrote: pentax is not in direct competition with the sony a7ii because pentax is a DSLR with a k mount, and the sony is a mirrorless with a sony mount. Sony is, however, in direct competition with Pentax for camera body sales to people who want to use

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Bill
On 27/11/2014 10:55 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. They may not be for beginners but beginners buy them in droves. I hang out ona forum dedicated to Fuji Mirrorless these days, there are a lot of rank

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. Im sick of your postsYour last sentence was not necessary. On 11/27/2014 5:21 PM, Bill wrote: On 27/11/2014 10:55 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Bill
On 27/11/2014 4:50 PM, J C OConnell wrote: NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. No John, just the ignorant ones. Im sick of your posts Why don't you stop reading them then Your last sentence was not necessary. Your tasteless and opinionated

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Nov 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2014 4:50 PM, J C OConnell wrote: NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. No John, just the ignorant ones. Im sick of your posts Why don't you stop reading them then

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread John
On 11/27/2014 12:15 AM, Darren Addy wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread John
On 11/27/2014 6:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: On Nov 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2014 4:50 PM, J C OConnell wrote: NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. No John, just the ignorant ones. Im sick of your

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Paul
On 11/27/2014 5:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Ah, ’tis the holiday season filled with good cheer and never-ending family squabbles about who it was that broke Gramma’s favorite relish dish 27 years ago and whose turn it is to wash the pots after dinner. Better than watching football on the

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 AM, Paul pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2014 5:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Ah, ’tis the holiday season filled with good cheer and never-ending family squabbles about who it was that broke Gramma’s favorite relish dish 27 years ago and whose turn it is

Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-26 Thread Darren Addy
By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising thing about it the price of $1698

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-26 Thread Paul Ewins
, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising

A particularly juicy Pentax FF rumor...

2013-10-24 Thread Darren Addy
This sounds rather plausible, given the combination of Ricoh Pentax technologies: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52384176 The Pentax side's discussion of the same rumor: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52389739 I'm inclined to think this one is likely to be fairly accurate. --

Re: A particularly juicy Pentax FF rumor...

2013-10-24 Thread Zos Xavius
This rumor has made the rounds a few times. There is a chinese or japanese forum post that is the seed of this rumor. If you ask me, a mirrorless mount is probably their best bet at marketing a FF camera. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds

Re: A particularly juicy Pentax FF rumor...

2013-10-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/10/13, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed: This sounds rather plausible, given the combination of Ricoh Pentax technologies: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52384176 The Pentax side's discussion of the same rumor: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52389739 I'm inclined to

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 19, 2013, at 16:50 , Darren Addy wrote: I should also mention another significant negative... when you lose the crop factor you lose at the telephoto end. So your 500mm lens goes back to being a 500mm FOV instead of a 750mm FOV... meaning you will have to buy longer lenses to make up

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
6) (or whatever the number is). Larger viewfinder. For me, that's number one. More pixels, less DOF etc might come handy every now and then, but I know I would appreciate to see what's in frame when clicking the button. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-20 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Well if APSC is more than good enough why did Pentax bother to develop and actually produce the 645D ? ? ? ? ? -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
There are some things for which APS-C isn't good enough: spreads in Vogue, billboards, and impressing the easily impressed. But for the vast majority of what the vast majority of us do, APS-C is indeed good enough. Paul On May 20, 2013, at 2:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Well

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-20 Thread Darren Addy
The same reason that camera makers made medium format film cameras when the majority of users were more than happy with what they could do with 35mm film cameras. (That is to say that there was a market for them). On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Well if

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-20 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On 5/20/2013 3:17 PM, Darren Addy wrote: The same reason that camera makers made medium format film cameras when the majority of users were more than happy with what they could do with 35mm film cameras. (That is to say that there was a market for them). On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM, J.C.

RE: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: J.C. O'Connell Seriously, what is the latest rumours about FF Pentax dslr? The latest seems to be the officially deemed FAKE mid-March 2013 rumor that Pentax would announce the K-3 using Sony's 24mp full-frame sensor. Instead we got 9 bold new colors for the K-30 (which BTW was no longer

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
On 5/19/2013 4:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell Seriously, what is the latest rumours about FF Pentax dslr? The latest seems to be the officially deemed FAKE mid-March 2013 rumor that Pentax would announce the K-3 using Sony's 24mp full-frame sensor. Instead we got 9 bold new

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
Are you sure? -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2013/5/20 P.J. Alling

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread P.J. Alling
If there isn't we probably won't care... On 5/19/2013 7:04 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Are you sure? -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
P.J. is right, at least in my case. If/when Pentax introduces a full frame DSLR, I will probably buy one (eventually) but I won't be one of the first in line. A full frame sensor, by itself doesn't really gain you anything except: 1) shallower DOF (at the same focal length, compared to a APS-C) 2)

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
Sorry typo: that should be 85mm f1.8s (and the CZJ is a Flektogon Electric) On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: P.J. is right, at least in my case. If/when Pentax introduces a full frame DSLR, I will probably buy one (eventually) but I won't be one of the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
I should also mention another significant negative... when you lose the crop factor you lose at the telephoto end. So your 500mm lens goes back to being a 500mm FOV instead of a 750mm FOV... meaning you will have to buy longer lenses to make up for what you lost (or keep your APS-C camera for just

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 09:50, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should also mention another significant negative... when you lose the crop factor you lose at the telephoto end. So your 500mm lens goes back to being a 500mm FOV instead of a 750mm FOV... meaning you will have to buy longer

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Darren Addy
True, but, if i'm honest with myself i'm already cropping my APS-C images to Pentax Q sizes. ;) On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2013 09:50, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should also mention another significant negative... when

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 10:17, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: True, but, if i'm honest with myself i'm already cropping my APS-C images to Pentax Q sizes. ;) Har, I know where you're coming from, I really could have done with a 500mm lens at the airshow I attended a couple of weeks back :)

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: The beauty being that the the rumor will always be fresh, there is always a next year... These rumors go in cycles. I remember the 645D is vaporware threads and the (60-250/4 is vaporware) threads. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Doug Brewer
On 5/19/13 8:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: The beauty being that the the rumor will always be fresh, there is always a next year... These rumors go in cycles. I remember the 645D is vaporware threads and the (60-250/4 is vaporware) threads. Not to mention the Pentax DSLR

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some really bad lenses the softness in the corners may become more visible, but with decent lenses, FF puts

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 May 2013 12:22, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some really bad lenses the softness in the

Re: Pentax FF DSLR is vaporware?

2013-05-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On 5/19/2013 10:27 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:22, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I disagree with one point made below. FF actually allows LOWER quality lenses to be used because the absolute lines/mm doesnt have to be as high for same quality of results. Yes with some

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