Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you not alerted eBay to the fact that you indicate that the manuals available for down-load at your web site aren't allowed to be sold on? You do say that don't you? I do occasionally, but it's a bit like trying to eradicate cockroaches by stepping on

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Oct 2005 at 8:08, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you not alerted eBay to the fact that you indicate that the manuals available for down-load at your web site aren't allowed to be sold on? You do say that don't you? I do occasionally, but it's a bit

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Oct 2005 at 21:55, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not necessarily, I know there are at least two levels of password protection and various level of encryption in my package. There is a User password which allows the document to be opened and a Master

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send me any password-protected PDF and I'll send it back to you unprotected within 15 minutes. You're losing a lot of money then my friend... ??? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Well, eBay pulled my service manual auction because it contained a link to my web site. I've re-listed but with a link to my My eBay page (which has a link to the free service manual page). We'll see if this flies or if I need to resort to further subterfuge :)

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread brooksdj
Well, i quess you'll know how many people actually read your whole ad by the number of orders you get. LOL Dave Well, eBay pulled my service manual auction because it contained a link to my web site. I've re-listed but with a link to my My eBay page

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread P. J. Alling
I always though you could have, off site resources in an e-bay auction. Mark Roberts wrote: Well, eBay pulled my service manual auction because it contained a link to my web site. I've re-listed but with a link to my My eBay page (which has a link to the free service manual page). We'll see

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Well, eBay pulled my service manual auction because it contained a link to my web site. I've re-listed but with a link to my My eBay page (which has a link to the free service manual page). We'll see if this flies or if I need to resort

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Oct 2005 at 13:42, Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Well, eBay pulled my service manual auction because it contained a link to my web site. I've re-listed but with a link to my My eBay page (which has a link to the free service manual

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread Mishka
so what's exactly the problem? if you google pentax service manuals, your site comes up as the first link. now, if someone has more money than brains, and decides to buy the same on ebay, what's wrong with that? why don't you want people charging money for them? and why don't you sell them on

RE: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-26 Thread Don Sanderson
: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:44 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay so what's exactly the problem? if you google pentax service manuals, your site comes up as the first link. now, if someone has more money than brains, and decides to buy the same on ebay

Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals from my web site and are selling them on eBay. Sigh. I thought that foolishness had stopped. Well, if they can sell the stuff I'm giving away free so can I...

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread frank theriault
On 10/25/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals from my web site and are selling them on eBay. Sigh. I thought that foolishness had stopped. Well, if they can sell the stuff I'm

RE: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks for the good laugh Mark. I needed that. I've been tempted to do that myself. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:49 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Pentax service manuals on eBay I just got

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Mark, You are the one! This is great. :-) Godfrey On Oct 25, 2005, at 5:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals from my web site and are selling them on eBay. Sigh. I thought that foolishness

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals from my web site and are selling them on eBay. Sigh. I thought that foolishness had stopped.

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, You are the one! This is great. :-) I noticed someone selling an LX service manual on CD. I'm gonna buy one and put it on my site for free as well. Charging money for something to which you don't own copyright stinks, IMHO. -- Mark Roberts

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:31, Mark Roberts wrote: I stole the exact format, fonts and layout from one of the first people to try selling this stuff on line (hey, fair's fair...) I have actually had a couple of people buy a CD through eBay. I suspect mostly they're rewarding the humor but I

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this would be better - anyone want to have at a partially- disassembled ME-Super that is all black? Maybe the parts are good for something/someone Is it in good cosmetic condition? I might be interested. -- Mark Roberts Photography and

RE: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Malcolm Smith
Mark Roberts wrote: I noticed someone selling an LX service manual on CD. I'm gonna buy one and put it on my site for free as well. Charging money for something to which you don't own copyright stinks, IMHO. There's a market for suchlike on CD. I have one or two things that could be

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Gonz
Mark, put a password on them, if they are pdf. That way it adds a measure of annoyance/protection. You could use the password: manualspropertyofmarkroberts rg Mark Roberts wrote: I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Gonz
I have another busted ME-super that I could use the donor parts for. How much do you want for it? rg Charles Robinson wrote: On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:31, Mark Roberts wrote: I stole the exact format, fonts and layout from one of the first people to try selling this stuff on line (hey,

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals from my web site and are selling them on eBay. Sigh. I thought that foolishness had stopped. Well, if they can sell the stuff I'm

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Gonz
Yes, but it does put a measure of accountability on them and hopefully some guilt. rg Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I just got an email alerting me to the fact that several people have downloaded the free Pentax service manuals from my web site

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread frank theriault
On 10/25/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but it does put a measure of accountability on them and hopefully some guilt. hey, they already know they're stealing and obviously don't give a shit. they might see such a password as a minor inconvenience, so the aggravation factor might make

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but it does put a measure of accountability on them and hopefully some guilt. hey, they already know they're stealing and obviously don't give a shit. they might see such a password as a minor

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread frank theriault
On 10/25/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it would also annoy/inconvenience the legitimate users. snip right. we wouldn't want to do that. -knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Gonz
See, just like this guy: http://www.pentax-manuals.com/index.htm rg Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but it does put a measure of accountability on them and hopefully some guilt. hey, they already know

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread graywolf
Well, making them available on CD is probably a service to many (not everyone has a highspeed connection). You might just as well make the buck as someone else. OTOH you can not complain too loudly, you do not exactly own the copyrights yourself. Pentax is not likely to complain, however the

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, just like this guy: http://www.pentax-manuals.com/index.htm But that doesn't accomplish anything: If you know the password you can open the documents in Adobe acrobat and REMOVE password protection! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Gonz
I didnt know that you could remove it. That explains what you were saying before. I thought it was permanent. rg Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, just like this guy: http://www.pentax-manuals.com/index.htm But that doesn't accomplish anything: If you know the

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Oct 2005 at 17:20, Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, just like this guy: http://www.pentax-manuals.com/index.htm But that doesn't accomplish anything: If you know the password you can open the documents in Adobe acrobat and REMOVE password protection! Not

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not necessarily, I know there are at least two levels of password protection and various level of encryption in my package. There is a User password which allows the document to be opened and a Master password which allows password and permissions to be

Re: Pentax service manuals on eBay

2005-10-25 Thread Tom C
You're losing a lot of money then my friend... Send me any password-protected PDF and I'll send it back to you unprotected within 15 minutes. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com