On 29/11/2011 18:59, Mark Roberts wrote:
P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be happy
to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or third
e-mail
IIRC, Shel is the guy who bought a 77 Limited from Bill
On 11/29/2011 12:38 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
Pretty sure it was our Cory Waters that spawned PESO. Don't know what
happened to Shel, though.
I do think that Shel was the one who raised the point about posting
photos vs talking about them - don't know about
I miss Shel as well. G He was always blunt, and occasionally rude,
but he made interesting and useful comments on images posted here, and
his point of view always gave us something to think -- and talk --
about.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011
: Re: Promoting the PUG, and the list
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
/
/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture every so often - and
thus
From: Doug Brewer
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
/
/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture every so often - and
thus was born the PESO,
On 11/29/2011 12:05 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Doug Brewer
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
/
/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be happy
to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or third
e-mail (can't remember which and that was two upgrades and a hard drive
crash ago).. He intimated that he had some health and financial
concerns that
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be happy
to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or third
e-mail
IIRC, Shel is the guy who bought a 77 Limited from Bill Robb and
never paid for it. This might
Shel could be an evil, evil man.
I could give Dobo a call.
Dave
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I could give Dobo a call.
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On 29/11/2011 9:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
I expect a different level of photos from Bill Robb or Mark C. or Frank and
can offer sharper criticism. With less experienced photographers,
it isn't so much criticism as encouragement.
That was, I believe, Shel's reasoning behind his harsh
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
David J Brooks
Shel could be an evil, evil man.
I could give Dobo a call.
You'll find some help here:
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On 11/29/2011 6:45 PM, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
David J Brooks
Shel could be an evil, evil man.
I could give Dobo a call.
You'll find some help here:
http://www.arcane-archive.org/faqs/summonspells.php
B
But is there a good
I expect a different level of photos from Bill Robb or Mark C. or
Frank and
can offer sharper criticism. With less experienced photographers,
it isn't so much criticism as encouragement.
That was, I believe, Shel's reasoning behind his harsh critique. The
photographer had an extremely
As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was aimed
directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the image. It was
way out of line. There's never a need for a personal attack.
Paul
On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:43 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 29/11/2011 9:17
On 11/29/2011 12:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be
happy to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or
third e-mail (can't remember which and that was two upgrades and a
hard drive crash ago).. He intimated that he
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:47 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/29/2011 6:45 PM, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
David J Brooks
Shel could be an evil, evil man.
I could give Dobo a call.
You'll find some help
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was aimed
directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the image. It
was way out of line. There's never a need for a personal attack.
Paul
On Nov 29, 2011, at
On Nov 29, 2011, at 17:23 , Tom C wrote:
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was
aimed directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the
image. It was way out of line. There's never a need for a
On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I miss Shel as well. G He was always blunt, and occasionally rude,
One would almost expect that being blunt and rude were practically requirements
for posting on PDML.
but he made interesting and useful comments on images posted here,
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Colen
Years later it would seem.
There are times that I think it would be helpful, or at least fun, to
be in a photographic critique group where people were straightforward,
blunt, and occasionally creative, in
On 11/27/2011 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
The PUG started in pre-digital days when the ability to share photos
online wasn't as trivial as it is now and, to some extent, the
widespread uses of PESOs and GESOs has taken over part of its role.
But a themed gallery combining the talents of
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
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/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture every so often - and
thus was born the PESO, GESO, etc tradition.
...@alphoto.com
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Subject: Re: Promoting the PUG, and the list
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
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/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos
Since this topic has little to do with my questions about meta-skills,
particularly those about giving and taking criticism, I've changed the subject
line.
One question I had was what the purpose of the PUG currently is. I believe
that Pentax used it to showcase their products, to sell more
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's
always been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a
function of Pentax but is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Brewer
Productions.
On 11/27/2011 3:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Since this topic has little to
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function of
Pentax but is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Brewer Productions.
Ah, OK.So, that
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function
of Pentax
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function
of Pentax but is now a wholly owned
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
been a function of the members of the
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:00 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has
The universe at large.
On 11/27/2011 4:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always been
a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function of Pentax
but is now a
On 11/27/2011 5:00 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com
wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
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