A wee update:
I used the rmove Norton tool that is on the Symantec website and now all
seems good. I've rebooted the machine a half dozen times since running the
tool with no boot up issues.
Thanks to all for the help.
William Robb
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A wee update:
I used the rmove Norton tool that is on the Symantec website
and now all
seems good. I've rebooted the machine a half dozen times
since running the
tool with no boot up issues.
Thanks to all for the help.
William Robb
I think Norton takes its lead from General
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:14:32PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:
# Subash wrote:
# platforms since I've been in the business, including bare silicon. I'm
# not an OS bigot. I've been doing this crap for 25 years. Some
# platforms work for some applications. They're just tools. Right now,
#
Larry Colen wrote:
It is nice, however, that security discussions on Linux are of an
entirely different flavor than Windows.
While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not terribly fussed about the
security of the hammer when I need a screwdriver. :-)
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Bloody Norton.
It killed the audio on my old computer. After several months of trying
to fix the problem I just formatted started again.
Cheers,
Dave
(I have no help to offer)
2009/2/23 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
So, I have this really high strung Windows box, and every now and again it
William Robb wrote:
Any ideas on how to solve this?
Remove Norton Antivirus. Install one of the free alternatives like: AVG
(http://www.grisoft.com), Avast (http://www.avast.com), Avira
(http://www.free-av.de/en/index.html), or Clam AV (http://www.clamav.net).
Take the time out to
Sorry, I'm not in the know enough for helping here. However, I'm in the know
enough for understanding that Norton is the worst conglomerate of software
I've ever come across. I believe 50% of PC problems I've been pointed to
were related to it, including a lot which Windows was blamed for.
Can't help with the specifics of the problem but you may want to remove
Norton and see if anything changes. Norton's uninstall usually leaves
some residue on your hard drive so just running uninstall may not remove
the offending file. It's enough of a problem that Symantec has created
a
On 2/23/09, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Any ideas on how to solve this?
Remove Norton Antivirus. Install one of the free alternatives like: AVG
(http://www.grisoft.com), Avast (http://www.avast.com), Avira
(http://www.free-av.de/en/index.html), or
I'll third this.
Have used Avast for a while, and it has worked quite well on my systems.
Another suite of AV to stay away from, btw, is F-Secure. It was good
once upon a time, but has grown seriously bloated.
Jostein
2009/2/23 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com:
On 2/23/09, Doug Franklin
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
So, I have this really high strung Windows box, and every now and again it
does something completely inexplicable.
It's latest is on boot-up, it decides it can't start the video card:
Code 10, device cannot be started
And the card runs in VGA
Wipe drive, re-install OS and applications without Norton (Which is a
system-killer, not an anti-virus). Get a real anti-virus program like
AVG or Avira.
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
So, I have this really high strung Windows box, and every now and
Adam Maas wrote:
Wipe drive, re-install OS and applications without Norton (Which is a
system-killer, not an anti-virus). Get a real anti-virus program like
AVG or Avira.
Just another recommendation for AVG, which I've been using since 1999 or
so. Good stuff -- doesn't kill system
In a message dated 2/23/2009 5:21:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
war...@gmail.com writes:
Thanks
William Robb
==
Actually, the simplest explanation might be the right one. The card might be
loose. In other words, it is not sitting tightly in its slot. So sometimes
the
I will confirm Scott's support for AVG. I have a number of clients that
use the paid version and I also have a large number of friends that use
free_AVG. It is one of the better ones. and has (except for the whole
computer scan) a very light footprint on the computer. I do recommend
the
Paul wrote:
Can't help with the specifics of the problem but you may want to remove
Norton and see if anything changes. Norton's uninstall usually leaves
some residue on your hard drive so just running uninstall may not remove
the offending file. It's enough of a problem that Symantec has
On 2/23/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/2/24 jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com:
Paul wrote:
Can't help with the specifics of the problem but you may want to remove
Norton and see if anything changes. Norton's uninstall usually leaves
some residue on your hard drive
2009/2/24 jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com:
Paul wrote:
Can't help with the specifics of the problem but you may want to remove
Norton and see if anything changes. Norton's uninstall usually leaves
some residue on your hard drive so just running uninstall may not remove
the offending file.
Scott Loveless wrote:
On 2/23/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/2/24 jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com:
Paul wrote:
Can't help with the specifics of the problem but you may want to remove
Norton and see if anything changes. Norton's uninstall usually leaves
Hey all
Thanks for the help and suggestions, both on and offlist.
I had removed Norton from my machine already in the hopes that this would
fix things, but I new not about the removal tool, so I ran it this morning.
I do hope it doesn't come to a format and reinstall, but we'll just have to
First thing to do is get rid of Norton, it's shit.
I had a similar problem with my sound card. I went through all sorts of
grief trying to figure out what was going wrong. Eventually I just took to
starting it myself if it didn't start at boot time, and I put it down to a
flaky wire or something.
I'll be the token linux-weenie and suggest ditching windows and
running either Ubuntu or Kubuntu. While it is possible to write a
virus that targets linux, it's quite a bit more difficult.
Another option is to run your browser in a VMWare virtual machine, so
you don't care if it gets hacked. If
From: Adam Maas
Wipe drive, re-install OS and applications without Norton (Which is a
system-killer, not an anti-virus). Get a real anti-virus program like
AVG or Avira.
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
So, I have this really high strung Windows
On Feb 23, 2009, at 16:52, John Sessoms wrote:
I see this all the time, and I don't understand it. I believe people
when they say Norton messed up this and that on their system, but I
used Norton for years and years and never had any problems from it.
They have, over the past 3+ years,
I don't know if anyone's suggested this but you may want to try
downloading the video card drivers from nvidia's site and installing
them again. If Norton or Windows screwed the driver up, a fresh
(probably updated) copy might be just the ticket.
CW
William Robb wrote:
Hey all
Thanks for
From: David Savage
2009/2/24 jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com:
Paul wrote:
Can't help with the specifics of the problem but you may want to remove
Norton and see if anything changes. Norton's uninstall usually leaves
some residue on your hard drive so just running uninstall may not remove
Scott Loveless wrote:
I'll second Doug's suggestion. I've been using AVG for a couple years
on the Windows boxen around here and it seems fine.
http://free.avg.com/ Disable the link scanner once it's
installed, please.
Recent packages have allowed you to skip installing the Link Scanner in
Larry Colen wrote:
I'll be the token linux-weenie and suggest ditching windows and
running either Ubuntu or Kubuntu. While it is possible to write a
virus that targets linux, it's quite a bit more difficult.
Show me a useful replacement for Photoshop that can do 16-bit-per-color
processing on
- Original Message -
From: John Sessoms
Subject: Re: Another stupid computer question
I see this all the time, and I don't understand it. I believe people when
they say Norton messed up this and that on their system, but I used Norton
for years and years and never had any
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:37:45PM -0500, Doug Franklin scripsit:
Larry Colen wrote:
I'll be the token linux-weenie and suggest ditching windows and
running either Ubuntu or Kubuntu. While it is possible to write a
virus that targets linux, it's quite a bit more difficult.
Show me a useful
William Robb wrote:
Perhaps a bad coincidence, but the machine started up with no problems
at all every time until I put NAV onto it, and the first boot after that
gave me grief.
I've never heard a good word about Norton AV. But I'd try Marnie's
suggestion about re-seating the video card
On 2/23/09, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:37:45PM -0500, Doug Franklin scripsit:
Larry Colen wrote:
I'll be the token linux-weenie and suggest ditching windows and
running either Ubuntu or Kubuntu. While it is possible to write a
virus that targets linux,
Graydon wrote:
Cinepaint. http://www.cinepaint.org/
I'll try it, again, but the last time, a year or so ago, it wasn't ready
for prime time.
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Mark Roberts wrote:
I've never heard a good word about Norton AV. But I'd try Marnie's
suggestion about re-seating the video card and Cory's about checking for
new drivers, too.
Regardless of anything else you do, take NAV out of the troubleshooting
equation. You can put it back in later
Scott Loveless wrote:
Also take a look at LightZone for Linux. It seemed very capable when
I was using their free beta. Or Picasa. Seriously, now that it has a
clone stamp I don't even worry about Photoshop anymore. I know most
of you put more effort into processing your images than I do,
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:52 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: Adam Maas
Wipe drive, re-install OS and applications without Norton (Which is a
system-killer, not an anti-virus). Get a real anti-virus program like
AVG or Avira.
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM,
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:37:45PM -0500, Doug Franklin scripsit:
Larry Colen wrote:
I'll be the token linux-weenie and suggest ditching windows and
running either Ubuntu or Kubuntu. While it is possible to write a
virus that
In a message dated 2/23/2009 4:18:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
msrobert...@ysu.edu writes:
It *might* even be a hardware issue with the card itself. I've found the
most frustrating, intractable problems tend to be traceable to hardware
rather than software.
==
Yes.
Marnie
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:28:29PM -0500, Doug Franklin scripsit:
Graydon wrote:
Cinepaint. http://www.cinepaint.org/
I'll try it, again, but the last time, a year or so ago, it wasn't ready
for prime time.
Mind me asking why not?
(I have no idea how anybody else's workflow goes; if it's
Larry,
I like linux also. The problem is that we all sit around and say that
Chocolate is best and the next guy says yes but raspberry does the
hoop dance better. That's all true, but nobody but the geeks really
care. The rest of the world sees it as Windoes or Apple. Choose one of
On 2/23/09, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:
But if do I choose linux I still have twenty decisions to make. And
that's before I figure out how to install the bugger. I will admit it's
getting better. But you can't take a disk and install it with worrying that
something will raise
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:49:34PM -0500, John Graves scripsit:
[snip]
But if do I choose linux I still have twenty decisions to make. And
that's before I figure out how to install the bugger. I will admit it's
getting better. But you can't take a disk and install it with worrying
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:49:34PM -0500, John Graves wrote:
# Larry,
#
# I like linux also. The problem is that we all sit around and say that
# Chocolate is best and the next guy says yes but raspberry does the
# hoop dance better. That's all true, but nobody but the geeks really
#
Larry et al:
Found some lukewarm coffee. I am a linux user, not an expert. I have
a linux server, and at one time or another, have had my hands on ubuntu,
debian, and fedora. I make no claim for any of them. For somethings,
linux is a great toolbox. As has been mentioned, for some
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:49:34 -0500
John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:
Larry,
[...]
John G
\Sorry for the rant...I need some coffee.
;-) on top of all that, i use linux because it gives *me* the control of
how i want my computer set up. of course you are right, it is a matter
of pure
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:49:34 -0500
John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:
If the process is as interesting as the end result, Linux is the
system for you.
for me it is, to go a bit OT (sorry Bill, after all, the list guy did
give us OS chest-thumping licence in the foreword, didn't he?
Graydon wrote:
Mind me asking why not?
(I have no idea how anybody else's workflow goes; if it's something I
never do, hey, learning experience.)
I don't mind, but it's been a while and I don't remember the details.
As I recall, color management may have been the missing factor.
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:16:55PM -0500, John Graves wrote:
# Is there something about technical or semi-technical interests that
# drive us so hard. As I said earlier, I only meant to throw a small
# bone, and it was linux's turn to play the bone. Next week, we discuss
# the foibles of
Subash wrote:
for me it is, to go a bit OT (sorry Bill, after all, the list guy did
give us OS chest-thumping licence in the foreword, didn't he?
wouldn't want to let him down). for me it is precisely ten years since i
On a daily basis, I use and develop system-level software for Win32,
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