RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-30 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Iren & Henry Chu wrote: > On the other hand, D-SLRs like D100 use Interline Frame Readout CCDs which > are complex and very expensive to manufacture. These CCDs cannot record > images in a continuous manner like the Interlaced CCD do and they needs > mechanical shutters. Actu

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-29 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
Dear all, Steve Desjardins wrote: Thanks. You've answered many questions here, some of which I haven't asked >yet. Aside from battery life, what are the advantages of the IFR CCD's? I want to clarify in my previous that IFR CCD would not use less power in the camera. However, it affects ho

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-29 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
Dear all, Rob Studdert wrote: E-10/20 have no movie modes and can only shoot up to 4fps, they have a true optical finder however they use a splitter not a mirror like conventional SLRs. Preview is available however I seldom use it however I do occasional review and display histograms of stored

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Oct 2002 at 23:36, Iren & Henry Chu wrote: > E-10/E-20 is a completely different technology from D-SLRs like D100 or D1X. > > The major power consumption in digital cameras come from their image sensor and > the preview/review LCD at the camera back. > > E-10/E-20, like other consumer DCs,

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
Thanks. You've answered many questions here, some of which I haven't asked yet. Aside from battery life, what are the advantages of the IFR CCD's? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Oct 2002 at 17:09, Rob Brigham wrote: > The prosumer £2000 models seem to be more 'normal' sized SLRs without > the bulky vertical grip assembly below the lens. The MZ-D had an > integral grip like having the BG-10 permanently attached. I don't think > this makes sense for a cheaper versio

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
AIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > At about $300 Cdn for batteries for the N D1, no one's tossing used > batteries like cigarettes. > > The batteries are recha

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread frank theriault
At about $300 Cdn for batteries for the N D1, no one's tossing used batteries like cigarettes. The batteries are rechargeable. Problem is, a pro out on a shoot will likely need at least two sets of batteries to get through the day. cheers, frank Brad Dobo wrote: > Yup, they eat batteries l

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Leonard Paris
of power to spare. Len --- From: "Tim S Kemp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:59:06 - >I agree. Unless Pentax makes a really dumb choic

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Tim S Kemp
>I agree. Unless Pentax makes a really dumb choice, you're gonna need a big battery pack. I don't think the smaller sensor >makes that much of a difference. There is little reason why a DSLR would be worse for battery consumption than a digital P&S, and there's no winding mechanism so there's

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
02 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > Adding the built-in grip/battery pack to the bottom of the MZ-S adds some > to the height of the MZ-D, and maybe something to the depth (but the right > hand grip on the MZ-S already sticks out pretty far), but I don't

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
- Original Message - From: "Michael Nosal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > Why? The K-mount is the same size, the mirror box is the same size. Th

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
if it happenned this early then the effect wont be > far different to developing them as twins anyway. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen@;sensewave.com] > > Sent: 28 October 2002 16:33 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Exclus

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
It is slowly becoming the latest Optio by the time it comes out. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
the future? (This from a guy who's working now on nearly 3 months for a simple $&%$ cable release. Peeved Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: Re

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > Brother Bruce: > > Repent now for Seduction Of a Pdml'er or Prepareth Yourself > to Defend Wannabe Brother Lon in court when divorce #3409-b > comes up for sett

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I agree. Unless Pentax makes a really dumb choice, you're gonna need a big battery pack. I don't think the smaller sensor makes that much of a difference. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Lon Williamson
This danged brotherhood stuff is ticking me off. I decided long ago to stick with Pentax 35mm, and you 6x7 folks just keep hurling up the "big neg" arguement, and I want a 6x7 but I want a 300 f4 for K mount even more. Damn, this group is expensive. Grin. -Lon Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Someone

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Dan Scott
On Monday, October 28, 2002, at 01:11 PM, Lon Williamson wrote: Brad, in the field I clean my glasses a LOT more than I clean my lenses. In fact, my lenses tend to get a bit of breath before mounting, mebbe a swipe with once a month, and a careful sit-down cleaning about once a year or whene

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Lon Williamson
Brad, in the field I clean my glasses a LOT more than I clean my lenses. In fact, my lenses tend to get a bit of breath before mounting, mebbe a swipe with once a month, and a careful sit-down cleaning about once a year or whenever the heck I feel like it. But the glasses get cleaned OFTEN in the

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > William wrote: > > > Absolutely. Whoever wrote that needs to give their head a shake. > > Nonsense. Pentax doesn't do any marketing towards professional use (

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Michael Nosal
At 05:09 PM 10/28/02 +, you wrote: The prosumer £2000 models seem to be more 'normal' sized SLRs without the bulky vertical grip assembly below the lens. The MZ-D had an integral grip like having the BG-10 permanently attached. I don't think this makes sense for a cheaper version aimed at no

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > > Someone wrote: > > > Pentax isn't in the business of professional anything. They sell to > > whoever buys it. There's a common misconception th

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Someone wrote: > > Pentax isn't in the business of professional anything. They sell to > whoever buys it. There's a common misconception that MF is Pentax > professional line. It isn't. Someone should tell all those big dollar pros who shot automotive location photos for the car companies. Many o

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Dario Bonazza 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > > Pål Jensen wrote: > > >My guess is that this web site, or their Pentax source, is just > recirculati

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-28 Thread Brad Dobo
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > I spoke to the Pentax rep. for Melbourne Australia and they have been really > surprised at how well the MZ-S has sold and for a while the demand exceeded > what they

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread arkibladt
Thanks Dan This must mean, that lenses for 35mm are better/more expensive and will produce overall sharper results on a 16x24 CCD-frame (provided there's enough PIXELS/resolution enough)! Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dan Scott [mailto:daniel559@;directvinternet.com] Sendt: 27.

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Paul Jones
CTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > Hey Pål, > > - Original Message - > From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:1

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Brad Dobo
Group, - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > The MZ-S was designed as a digital slr from ground up and later e

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Brad Dobo
Hey Pål, - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > I've been told it has sold more than expected. Well, I

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Brad Dobo
- Original Message - From: "Heiko Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > OTO I am not sure if the MZ-S is really such a > flop as generally a

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
Pål Jensen wrote: >My guess is that this web site, or their Pentax source, is just recirculating old > images of a defunct prototype that might or might not be close to the real thing. I agree with Pål on this topic. That picture is identical in all details to MR-52 prototype of Photokina 2000 (

Re: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
It is possible that Pentax did plan that all along, I..e, one chassis for digital and film. It would have made as much sense several years ago as it does now. Not that it would invalidate your argument. A common chassis for both media would tend to introduce compromises. It is an interesting

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Rob Brigham
somewhere else. Doesn't fill me with confidence... > -Original Message- > From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] > Sent: 27 October 2002 17:51 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > > > Strange, isn'

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Rob Brigham
Except that we have been talking about a DSLR for half that price! Press reports $1200-$1600. Maybe at $2500 they would use the mag body, but I just don't see it at this price. > -Original Message- > From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] > > I think a lower cost APS-sized, CMOS

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Robert wrote: > This sounds utterly sensible to me, too (with the possible exception of the > polycarbonate in the first one being maybe impossible as indicated in other > threads). There's no prblem making the MZ-S with polycarbonate shell. All Canons with the exception of the EOS 1v use po

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Dan Scott
On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 05:13 AM, arkibladt wrote: Faktor 1.5 focal means a 29mm will be like a 43mm, the "normal lens". Basicly this doesn't mean very much in every day photography, but probably that Pentax will make some new widelangles, rectiliniar and fish-eye's, in the near futur

Re: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore
Bruce wrote: For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up production, and not the materials. Thats why the story provided by Pentax UK, all new slr's from the same chassis, makes sense. I'm not convinced the MZ-S as building block for the whole Pentax slr line-up

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Wendy Beard
At 01:14 PM 27/10/2002 +0100, you wrote: Pentax isn't in the business of professional anything. They sell to whoever buys it. There's a common misconception that MF is Pentax professional line. It isn't. Pål Yes, and Fuji Canada back up Pål's statement. I finally found which of the three regis

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
When it comes to a common chassis for film and digital, I there's less here than meets the eye. Some of the major camera structures are going to be very different between the two types of cameras. There's no film transport mechanism or film plane in a digital camera, but lots more electronics. T

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR (Expected streetprice US$1200)

2002-10-27 Thread James Fellows
lot of fun with it. A APS sized DSLR would be more than adequate for us. Jim - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-S

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
Paal wrote: This may be correct too but how does it compare to what was printed in the original japanese newspaper article? I saw that this Taiwanese source obviously copied something from this article but managed to get some of the facts wrong. The way I see it; both Pentax UK, this Tawanese

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Doug Brewer
Of course it does. I've never had a single problem with Pentax service. DB At 9:22 PM -040010/26/02, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote, or at least typed: >They don't need any fancy bugs, since Pentax service doesn't exist in North America. > >BR -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photogra

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Feroze Kistan
ing. My 2 bits Feroze - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > No problems, Brad. We (or at least I) knew wh

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR (Expected streetprice US$1200)

2002-10-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
I admit that I've decided to put other major purchases on hold and start squirreling away spare money for a "bigger" purchase. If this thing is really between 1200-1500 USD, then I might very well buy one. I currently enjoy using the E-10 I have access to; this idea of a having Pentax DSLR is star

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: > For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up >production, and not the materials. Thats why the story provided by Pentax UK, all new slr's from the same chassis, makes sense. I'm not convinced the MZ-S as building block for the whole Pentax slr line-

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Brad wrote: >I can't see it > because of that and the cost to make it happen, especially since the MZ-S > was a sales flop. I've been told it has sold more than expected. >I love it though, it's professional enough for me, and > really, Pentax isn't in the professional business concerning 35

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Brad, on 27 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >Of course we all are speculating, but I can see 2 of your points makes >sense to me, but the description of a new MZ flagship or whatever one >may call it, seems to be looking like a Nikon or Canon clone. Correct >me here if I am wrong, but that w

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread arkibladt
Or maybe a SMC FA 2.8/19mm-47mm (28-70mm). It might be great fun to use theese on a 35mm body? I'll certainly like the latter. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Heiko Hamann [mailto:list.heiko@;mycroft.de] Sendt: 27. oktober 2002 10:49 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Exclusive picture of

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Brad Dobo
-- From: "Heiko Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:49 AM Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > - a cheaper MZ-S made of polycarbonat replacing MZ-5/MZ-6 > - the present MZ-S as semi-pro camera

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Steve, on 26 Oct 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >I do have a question, however. How difficult is it to use the MZ-S >shape but recast it in polycarbonate? I realize that it would require >new mfg lines that cast plastic instead of bend metal, screw fittings >would be needed, etc., etc., but

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-27 Thread Brad Dobo
> I think it's a nice design. That angled top plate > reminds me of the MZ-S. Really it looks like a very > fat -S. Porky digicam! > > Dude, it's late! Late is not in my vocabulary. I've never messed with or held the existing DSLRs, but I've heard they are rather bulky by nature of the beast

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Debra Wilborn
I think it's a nice design. That angled top plate reminds me of the MZ-S. Really it looks like a very fat -S. Porky digicam! Dude, it's late! __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread frank theriault
No problems, Brad. We (or at least I) knew what you meant first time around . I know I've mentioned this before, but I just help commenting again: Man, you've got the strangest sleep patterns! I wake up and check my e-mails before I got to work in the morning, and you're posting at, like 3 and

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 09:12 PM, Brad Dobo wrote: Gang, is it just be or does it sound like Pentax is *beeping* us over? Ever get that used, dirty feeling? ;-) Brad Dobo Nope. Pentax didn't lure me in, I sought them out. Everything I bought new from them works as good or better

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
Argh Should read is it just me.blah > Sound read is it just meI just woke up...need coffee > > > Gang, is it just be or does it sound like Pentax is *beeping* us over? > Ever > > get that used, dirty feeling? ;-) > > > > Brad Dobo

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
Sound read is it just meI just woke up...need coffee > Gang, is it just be or does it sound like Pentax is *beeping* us over? Ever > get that used, dirty feeling? ;-) > > Brad Dobo

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
Gang, is it just be or does it sound like Pentax is *beeping* us over? Ever get that used, dirty feeling? ;-) Brad Dobo > My conclusion is that it is a controlled leak from Pentax to lower our > expectation on the so-called new chassis. MZ-S is already made from the new > chassis which is diffe

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
Unfortunately that is too correct > They don't need any fancy bugs, since Pentax service doesn't exist in North America. > > BR

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
On 26 Oct 2002 at 23:53, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > Rob Brigham wrote: > > >Come on guys, it even has the same lens mounted that it was shown 2 > >years ago with at the show! These are old images! The whole article is > >conjecture. > > This is not the same lens. The one 2 years ago was FA 35/

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
They don't need any fancy bugs, since Pentax service doesn't exist in North America. BR -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb@;accesscomm.ca] Well, they can put in sticky mirror from the LX, and dying frame counter from the ME/Super Program, and rusting ISO resistor from th

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Oct 2002 at 21:09, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: > For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up > production, and not the materials. Apart from which even if the same moulds were able to be used to form a polycarbonate chassis most of the fastening points

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
You have all the right in the world to exist, but you don't because you are just anonymous bits. For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up production, and not the materials. -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:DesJardinS@;wlu.edu] Please t

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Oct 2002 at 23:53, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > Rob Brigham wrote: > > >Come on guys, it even has the same lens mounted that it was shown 2 > >years ago with at the show! These are old images! The whole article is > >conjecture. > > This is not the same lens. The one 2 years ago was FA 35

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Shaun Canning
er Pietrzyk [mailto:sylwek@;ozon.com.pl] > Sent: 26 October 2002 22:53 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > > > Rob Brigham wrote: > > >Come on guys, it even has the same lens mounted that it was shown 2 > >ye

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rob Brigham
sylwek@;ozon.com.pl] > Sent: 26 October 2002 22:53 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > > > Rob Brigham wrote: > > >Come on guys, it even has the same lens mounted that it was shown 2 > >years ago with at the show! T

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR > Now, if we all assume that Paal is right, and no one makes money selling DSLRs, does that mean Pentax will go broke with a sales smash? Maybe they should put a few

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 10:35 AM, Brad Dobo wrote: I just love the pictures I see of the digital MZ-S, I think it's a smart move to use that platform, too bad I won't buy it :) Hmm...thinking a bit more, if (as I've heard) the MZ-S was a flop as far as sales and profit, etc for Pen

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Pål Jensen
Steve wrote: > I can't decide on this one. The new one could be essentially identical > to the MZ-D (MR-51 or whatever it was), because, well, the MZ-D was > designed as a DSLR. On the other hand, it would be so easy to just > stick up some old MZ-D pictures. I assume that no one has seen thes

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: > Now, if we all assume that Paal is right, and no one makes money selling DSLRs, does >that mean Pentax will go broke >with a sales smash? Maybe they should put a few bugs >in just to be safe. It is not me who is right. It was a statement made by Olympus. But I think they now w

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Pål Jensen
Henry wrote: > Afterall, if both the Photosharp report and Pentax UK do not contradict with > each other, that means the new chassis of SLR is in fact MZ-S and a new > series of SLRs (including the flagship) will be based on MZ-S?! Actually, they do contradict one another as the UK press releas

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
I can't decide on this one. The new one could be essentially identical to the MZ-D (MR-51 or whatever it was), because, well, the MZ-D was designed as a DSLR. On the other hand, it would be so easy to just stick up some old MZ-D pictures. I assume that no one has seen these particular pictures b

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Cotty
Hmm. I find this difficult to believe. Pentax Taiwan releases pics of the new DSLR 'exclusively' to a web site?? I do not believe this to be true. Maybe they are claiming the pics are exclusive to them, but I seriously doubt this. Cotty >Although it did not make it on time to be released durin

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Cotty
>Both the titles and content of the report indicates that these photographs >are their exclusive photographs for the new D-SLR, which are supplied by >their Pentax source. I have studied the pics of the Pentax DSLR on the Tawianese web site, and the pics of the original MZ-D prototype, and I ha

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Cotty
I concur completely, Pal. Cotty >Henry wrote: > >> I personally still have doubts on their claim, as Paal and Cotty have both >> said that the new D-SLR will be based on a new SLR design. Any comments? > >I don't think WE said that. It was said in a press release from Pentax UK. >Most of us

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
Now, if we all assume that Paal is right, and no one makes money selling DSLRs, does that mean Pentax will go broke with a sales smash? Maybe they should put a few bugs in just to be safe. BR -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:audiob@;ozemail.com.au] Yes it is practically th

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Peter Jansen
Pure speculation...wait and see... --- Iren & Henry Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > The Taiwanese photography website Photosharp > released a number of the > pictures of the "new" Pentax D-SLR which they > obtained from Pentax: > > http://www.photosharp.com.tw > http://www.phot

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
Excuse my ignorance folks, but what is Rob actually talking about and more specifically, what is 'vapour ware'? Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:50 PM S

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I hope it doesn't turn out to be vapor ware like the MZ-D. Rob Studdert wrote: > On 26 Oct 2002 at 16:32, Leonard Paris wrote: > > > It would greatly surprise me if Pentax didn't use as much of the original > > MZ-D design as they can. They already paid to engineer it. > > Yes it is practically

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Oct 2002 at 16:32, Leonard Paris wrote: > It would greatly surprise me if Pentax didn't use as much of the original > MZ-D design as they can. They already paid to engineer it. Yes it is practically the only way that they could do it without costing themselves a bomb given the prior deve

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Leonard Paris
It would greatly surprise me if Pentax didn't use as much of the original MZ-D design as they can. They already paid to engineer it. Len --- From: "Ryan K. Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exclusive picture of &q

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
> Afterall, if both the Photosharp report and Pentax UK do not contradict with > each other, that means the new chassis of SLR is in fact MZ-S and a new > series of SLRs (including the flagship) will be based on MZ-S?! I just love the pictures I see of the digital MZ-S, I think it's a smart move t

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 03:33 AM, Brad Dobo wrote: (Mental note: If I meet Dan Scott in person, do not ask to try out the new Pentax DSLR) :) Brad Dobo Sissy. Dan Scott

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
Paal, I don't think WE said that. It was said in a press release from Pentax UK. Most >of us had originally thought that the new digital was going to be a modification >of the DSLR prototype shown 2 years ago. However, as I said in a previous post, >Pentax reps often get the details, if not fa

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR (Expected street price US$1200)

2002-10-26 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
According to the report by Photosharp Taiwan, the list price of the Pentax D-SLR will be the same as Sigma SD-9, i.e. 200,000yen. They expect the street price will be around NTD40,000plus (NTD = Taiwan dollar), which is approximately about US$1200. _

Fwd: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Iren & Henry Chu
From: Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:40:34 +0800 Note that the actual web graphic names are "MZ-S digital-1", "MZ-S digital-2"

RE: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Simon King
bject: Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 11:36 PM, Iren & Henry Chu wrote: > Dear all, > > The Taiwanese photography website Photosharp released a number of the > pictures of the "new" Pentax D-SLR which they obtai

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
(Mental note: If I meet Dan Scott in person, do not ask to try out the new Pentax DSLR) :) Brad Dobo > >> It looks good to me except for the lcd screen. It's going to get very > >> smeary in very short order if that placement is what they go with. > >> > >> Dan Scott > > > > Just keep your nose c

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-25 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 12:54 AM, Brad Dobo wrote: It looks good to me except for the lcd screen. It's going to get very smeary in very short order if that placement is what they go with. Dan Scott Just keep your nose clean ;-) I think that screen will do it for me. Dan Scott

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-25 Thread Brad Dobo
I have a different view here. When I went shopping for my digital P&S, I had the money and choices of Optios to choose. I did the wise thing and thought of my needs and it's usage. That lead me to the 230 2mp. 6mp cameras were out there already, but I chose mine to suit my needs. So with a new

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-25 Thread Brad Dobo
> It looks good to me except for the lcd screen. It's going to get very > smeary in very short order if that placement is what they go with. > > Dan Scott Just keep your nose clean ;-)

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-25 Thread Alan Chan
It won't be worthless in 6 months; large numbers of us will have to wait quite awhile to save up for new ones, so that should keep the price of used ones up for awhile. Besides, I can't see Pentax becoming one of the Body of the Month camera makers--I don't know if they have the resources, but

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-25 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 12:07 AM, Alan Chan wrote: I personally still have doubts on their claim, as Paal and Cotty have both said that the new D-SLR will be based on a new SLR design. Any comments? It would be logical to borrow the design from other MZ/ZX bodies (like MZ-L) to mi

Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-25 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Iren & Henry Chu wrote: Dear all, The Taiwanese photography website Photosharp released a number of the pictures of the "new" Pentax D-SLR which they obtained from Pentax: http://www.photosharp.com.tw http://www.photosharp.com.tw/what'snew.htm Those look exactly like the MZ-D pictures at DPre