On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Toralf Lund wrote:
keith_w wrote:
The M version 50mm/1.7 is known to be a very sharp performer. Has a
reputation
for excellent resolution. Sort of an unknown lens except aficionados...
What they call a sleeper.
I already have one of those, of course. And an A-50/1.7,
The Pentax 50mm f/1.4 lenses are known to be very high quality for
their price and highly desireable. It was/is rumored that they were
discontinued ...
There definitely *is* such a rumour. It's even mentioned several places
on this thread that they were produced until 2004. I doubt that
On Jun 29, 2006, at 4:34 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:
There definitely *is* such a rumour. It's even mentioned several places
on this thread that they were produced until 2004. I doubt that none
have been manufactured after that when the model is listed on the
distributor's list and several shops
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From: Aaron Reynolds
Subject: Re: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
I've said this before -- the shortage, if it existed at all, was
created by retailers not buying the lenses from Pentax. Pentax Canada
did not only not sell any 50mm lenses for nearly five years
I understand. It's a brilliant lens. I paid 200 USD for mine a couple of
years ago.But this is Denmark. You may get one for less.
This one was quite expensive, though:
http://tinyurl.com/gm67u
The F-version is supposed to be even better - one of the very best 50mm
ever.
Regards
Jens Bladt
The current price at BH is 169.95 after rebate.
That's what I paid for a used one on eekBay last year.
Given its quality that IS very cheap.
IF you have a use for that focal length, many don't.
I most often use it with a Tamron 1.4x converter, it's
my poor mans 70mm. ;-)
Don
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Jens Bladt wrote:
I understand. It's a brilliant lens. I paid 200 USD for mine a couple of
years ago. But this is Denmark. You may get one for less.
This one was quite expensive, though:
http://tinyurl.com/gm67u
The F-version is supposed to be even better - one of the very best 50mm
ever.
The current price at BH is 169.95 after rebate.
That's what I paid for a used one on eekBay last year.
Given its quality that IS very cheap.
If I were eligible for the rebate, I think I'd order one from BH. In
fact I'm tempted even though I probably have to pay the full $219.95.
But with
Are you suggesting that the F50/1.4 is superior to the A and the FA
versions of the lens? According to Boz's site, all three are the same
optically.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Jens Bladt
http://tinyurl.com/gm67u
The F-version is supposed to be even better - one of the very best 50mm
BTW, I jsut posted a FA 1.4/500 shot, comparable to the shots I made
with
the 3 Limited's:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/176951745/
Cheers
Jens Bladt
Nice lens Jens, that FA 1.4/500 of yours!
Antti-Pekka
Antti-Pekka Virjonen
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
Are you suggesting that the F50/1.4 is superior to the A and the FA
versions of the lens? According to Boz's site, all
Are you basing your comment on what Photodo says, and nothing more?
What has competition, prices, and people got to do with the absolute
quality of a lens?
What's the relevance of your comment about the M50/1.4 and other 50mm
lenses on eBay got to do with the A,F, and FA lenses?
Shel
I'm not particularly impressed with your test. The main subject - the
flower - doesn't appear to be in proper focus. It's certainly softer
than I'd expect.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Jens Bladt
BTW, I jsut posted a FA 1.4/500 shot, comparable to the
shots I made with the 3
On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
So how good is the M-1.4/50 1.4
It's a hell of a lens and it outperformed my Contax 50mm f1.4. It
convinced me that I didn't need the Contax.
Sadly, I dropped it. But now I have the F, which is as good or better.
-Aaron
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On Jun 28, 2006, at 3:02 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
The F-version is supposed to be even better - one of the very best
50mm
ever.
I had the F50/1.7 and bought the FA50/1.4. If the F version of the f/
1.4 is the same as the f/1.7 mount, the FA is a better lens mount in
feel and finish to me.
This is hooey. Photodo is a worthless metric imo. Reducing the
performance of a lens to a one unit single valued metric is ridiculous.
I also compared the A50/1.4 against the FA50/1.4, as well as the
F50/1.7 and A50/1.7. Both pairs responded identically, 1.7 to 1.7 ...
1.4 to 1.4, and the
The Pentax 50mm f/1.4 lenses are known to be very high quality for
their price and highly desireable. It was/is rumored that they were
discontinued ... certainly a year ago there were shortages worldwide.
So they became highly sought after on the used market, which kept
prices high.
I
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Emne: Re: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
On Jun 28, 2006, at 3:02 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
The F-version is supposed to be even better - one of the very best
50mm
ever.
I had the F50/1.7 and bought the FA50/1.4
Belinkoff
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
I'm not particularly impressed with your test. The main subject - the
flower - doesn't appear to be in proper focus. It's certainly softer
than I'd expect.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Jens
Ahhh ... something I've found with the DS - and I'm sure it's the same with
the DL - is that the in focus light and beep is not always accurate.
Several list members had commented on that (Godfrey, Bruce, and Paul come
quickly to mind), so for critical focusing, especially up close or with
wider
On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
Identical does not exist.
Even two lenses from the same production series can show small
differences. ...
Trying to argue a case on unit variations is silly. Unit variations
are obviously embedded in any production of multiple units.
My use
DiGiorgi
Sendt: 28. juni 2006 16:30
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Emne: Re: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
The Pentax 50mm f/1.4 lenses are known to be very high quality for
their price and highly desireable. It was/is rumored that they were
discontinued ... certainly a year ago there were shortages
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On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
Identical does not exist.
Even two lenses from the same production series can show small
differences. ...
Trying to argue a case on unit variations is silly. Unit
Jens Bladt wrote:
I re-did the FA 1.4/50mm test shot. Put more effort in to focusing. This
time I took off the UV-filter.
Looks a little better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/177097232/
I do, however, find the M 1.7/50mm to be a tiny bit sharper. If it's at all
possible to actually see
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The Pentax 50mm f/1.4 lenses are known to be very high quality for
their price and highly desireable
No One?! Is that a hyperbolic statement?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
when I purchased the F version new in March, no
one had even inquired about the availability of
50mm primes from Pentax Canada in almost five years.
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Emne: Re: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
The Pentax 50mm f/1.4 lenses are known to be very high quality for
their price and highly desireable. It was/is rumored
On Jun 28, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
I found that the out of focus rendering of the old A 1.4/50mm wich
I have
now sold, to be very pleasant.
Don't tell me hat this too is the same lens design...:-)
You nailed it on the head. A-F-FA are identical 50mm f/1.4 optical
designs.
It seems that Pentax cut back production on primes because there was
a period in which that lack of interest caused poor sales, they put
their production money into zoom lenses that were selling better and
invested more into the DSLR development work.
The *ist D model sold relatively
Adorama seem to have these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B5ABC5/sr=1-3/qid=1151518762/ref=sr_1_3
/103-5243206-6777431?ie=UTF8s=photo
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
I have an M 50 1.7 that I got with an ME Super. I liked it fine but never
tested it, and haven't mounted it on a camera since I got the F 50 1.4.
Maybe I'll get a chance to compare them this long
On a DSLR it's an excellent portrait lens.
I's still VERY much cheaper than a 1.8 77mm or a A* or FA 1.4 85mm.
The affordable Pentax DSLR's made this standard AF lens very attractive for
portrait work, I believe.
I didn't have one in my PZ-1 - MZ-S days ... :-)
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
Are you basing your comment on what Photodo says, and nothing more?
What has competition, prices, and people got to do with the absolute
quality of a lens?
What's the relevance of your comment about the M50
: 28. juni 2006 13:28
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
BTW, I jsut posted a FA 1.4/500 shot, comparable to the shots I made
with
the 3 Limited's:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/176951745/
Cheers
Jens Bladt
Nice lens Jens, that FA 1.4/500 of yours!
Antti-Pekka
Yes, it's fantastic. I used one as my go-to lens for a decade before I dropped
it.
-Aaron
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They are both great
No. There had not been any inquiries about stock.
It's possible that the last inquiry was also me -- before I had my epiphany and
basically abandoned my 35mm gear, I had asked about buying an MZ-S and a AF 50
1.4.
-Aaron
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No One?! Is that a hyperbolic statement?
/28/2006 3:52:01 PM
Subject: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
Yes, you are wrong. Photodo tests a hell lot more than just one value, as
you stated earlier! Where did you get that idea?
Based on ebay prices, the F 1.4/50mm is more expensive used than the FA
version. Photodo is only PARTLY responsible
in tests.
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
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+45 23 43 85 77
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
Excuse me
Jens Bladt wrote:
They are both great - in the world class elite, I suspect. Use them!
Any idea what the M-1.4 is like?
Excellent, of course. I'm interested in differences between optical
formulas (as I own both M and FA), so if anyone knows, I'd be very glad
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On Jun 28, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:
... To me it's not a big surprise, that the two lenses may produce
different results in tests.
It's no surprise at all.
Regardless, my own testing of the lenses in question demonstrated to
me that they were *the same* and typical of the
keith_w wrote:
Jens Bladt wrote:
I re-did the FA 1.4/50mm test shot. Put more effort in to focusing. This
time I took off the UV-filter.
Looks a little better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/177097232/
I do, however, find the M 1.7/50mm to be a tiny bit sharper. If it's at all
possible
On Jun 28, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Vid Strpic wrote:
Jens Bladt wrote:
They are both great - in the world class elite, I suspect. Use them!
Any idea what the M-1.4 is like?
Excellent, of course. I'm interested in differences between optical
formulas (as I own both M and FA), so if anyone knows,
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Jens Bladt wrote:
I re-did the FA 1.4/50mm test shot. Put more effort in to focusing. This
time I took off the UV-filter.
Looks a little better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/177097232/
I do, however, find the M 1.7/50mm to be a tiny bit sharper. If it's at all
The F 1.4/50mm was in production 1989-1991
The FA 1.50/mm was in production 1991-2004
So, there's up to 15 years between the first F 1.4/50mm and the last FA
1.4/50mm.
-
From Boz's site, it looks like the optical formula actually dates back
to 1975. Same for the 50 F1.7.
Joe
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There were many times I've asked myself that question, when an Item
available new sold for quite a bit more than new price, used.
Toralf Lund wrote:
The current price at BH is 169.95 after rebate.
That's what I paid for a used one on eekBay last year.
Given its quality that IS very cheap.
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Emne: RE: FA-50/1.4 (used) price
I have an M 50 1.7 that I got with an ME Super
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