Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-24 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Patrick Pritchard wrote: > I've never really liked Canon. Not sure why; I've used them, but then > again only the lower grade stuff such as the Rebel X. Perhaps an EOS-1 > might be better? Can anyone comment on the EOS-1 AF, or point me to > some resources? I've had a good play with a 3.

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Butch Black
This I know. It isn't an issue of the AF being the top notch, but given >that F4 was the flagship at one point, and a LOT of people used it, the AF >can't be *that* bad, all things considered. The F-4 was Nikon's first AF pro body. The AF is primitive compared to current top of the line models.

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Patrick Pritchard
On Thursday, August 23, 2001, at 03:13 AM, Alan Chan wrote: My dilemma is this: - should I stay with Pentax, or go with Nikon (I'm leaning towards a used F4) If I remember correctly, F4 was said to be the greatest manual focus camera ever. Yes, you read it correctly, I said manual focus. The f

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Alan Chan
I think that the last Pentax camera body that was really well sealed was the LX. The PZ-1p certainly is not, and I think that the MZ-S is not either. Actually the LX is not only the last sealed camera, but the ONLY one too in the entire Pentax history so it is quite unrealistic to expect Pentax

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Alan Chan
This I know. It isn't an issue of the AF being the top notch, but given that F4 was the flagship at one point, and a LOT of people used it, the AF can't be *that* bad, all things considered. Because lots of people were using manual focus with the F4 back then. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pba

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Alan Chan
Along with that, even though the FA 135/2.8 isn't a * lens, it is built like a tank much like the * lenses. It's a very good performer. The body is built like a tank, but the focusing mecnahism is not. It is loose and lacks precision for manual focus. Optically, it is inferior to the M135/3.5 ne

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Alan Chan
Well, if it is no sealed, then no way the MZ-S will be nearly as dust resistance as the LX. The dust & water will get inside the MZ-S from the dials in no time. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan If your choice is Pentax then the MZ-S might be better. It doesn't have gaskets agains

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Alan Chan
My dilemma is this: - should I stay with Pentax, or go with Nikon (I'm leaning towards a used F4) If I remember correctly, F4 was said to be the greatest manual focus camera ever. Yes, you read it correctly, I said manual focus. The first Nikon with good AF was F90 if I am not mistaken, and F90X

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Patrick Pritchard
On Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 12:03 AM, tom wrote: It's been a few years, but iirc, it was pretty bad. It's nickname was the "best manual focus camera Nikon ever made." *WOW*. Yes, I have received other eMails regarding this off of the list, and I hear it repeatedly. I haven't done much resea

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread Steve Larson
Hi, If fast AF is what you need, the Nikon F100 is faster than the F4 or F5. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Patrick Pritchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:15 PM Subject: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pent

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-23 Thread brooksdj
You may want to look at the F90X. I bought on last year as a back up AF body for my D1,just incase it went down, i could still shoot film at my horse shows and salvage some sales. Its a nice camera,AF is fast and the body feels very rugged. I found a site on the web that had a comparison of the 90

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Andy Chang
the job. Andy -Original Message- From: Patrick Pritchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon? On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 11:15 PM, tom wrote: > The AF on the F4 ain't e

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Hello Patrick I have use both AF ans MF for the last 12 years. I think all the cameras you mention are nice and very high quality. I only own 3 AF lenses. If AF was so much better, I guess I would have had a lot more AF lenses by now! What is important is to get a camera you like to use. A camera

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Paul
F5? Or was the F4S somewhere in between? -patrick tv -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:48 PM To: Anthony Farr Subject: Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon? Along with that, even though the FA 135/2.8 isn'

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Paul
I've heard a number of people described the Nikon F4 as Nikons best manual focus body. This I know. It isn't an issue of the AF being the top notch, but given that F4 was the flagship at one point, and a LOT of people used it, the AF can't be *that* bad, all things considered.

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread David Madsen
, 2004 9:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon? The AF on the F4 ain't exactly going to set the world on fire. If you want noticeably better AF you need to buy one of Nikon or Canon's current (or maybe a generation back) pro bodies. The mid leve

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Patrick Pritchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 11:15 PM, tom wrote: > > > The AF on the F4 ain't exactly going to set the world on > fire. If you > > want noticeably better AF you need to buy one of Nikon or Canon's > > c

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Patrick Pritchard
n't the F4 one generation behind the current pro line? Pro being F5? Or was the F4S somewhere in between? -patrick tv -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:48 PM To: Anthony Farr Subject: Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pe

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Patrick Pritchard
On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 10:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Patrick Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've read various reports here on the list of Pentax slowly pulling faster pro grade lenses. What? Who posted that??? Well, it has been since March 16, 2004 since that is when I re-subscribe

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Patrick Pritchard
On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 10:48 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Along with that, even though the FA 135/2.8 isn't a * lens, it is built like a tank much like the * lenses. It's a very good performer. Is this true of most Pentax AF? Having never dealt with Pentax AF before, I'm not sure of build qu

RE: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread tom
essage- > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:48 PM > To: Anthony Farr > Subject: Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon? > > Along with that, even though the FA 135/2.8 isn't a * lens, > it is built like a tank

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Along with that, even though the FA 135/2.8 isn't a * lens, it is built like a tank much like the * lenses. It's a very good performer. My personal hunch is that the Nikon or Canon pro grade bodies are going to be more rugged and better at AF. Much as I love Pentax, for what you are describing,

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Patrick Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've read various reports here on the list of Pentax slowly pulling >faster pro grade lenses. What? Who posted that??? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Moving to AF: PZ1P or MZ-S? Pentax or Nikon?

2004-03-22 Thread Anthony Farr
By all reports the (P)Z1p is a dustcatcher. That could be a problem in central Australia. Rob Studdert could probably tell you what you need to know regarding this. If your choice is Pentax then the MZ-S might be better. It doesn't have gaskets against dust penetration as did the LX (and I thin