Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-17 Thread Thibouille
Wat would you want to know, Mark? Ihave one of those CF-IDE adapter so please ask your questions, I will do my best to help you. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Ryan Brooks wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Matt Kelch wrote: Doesn't CF use a modified IDE interface? That might be a large part of why its still around. I'm not sure about CF using or being a modified IDE. It is. In fact, there are even passive

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
I did boot my PC with a CF card. The thing is NOT to let it swap on the CF otherwise, it will quickly go away. Otherwise it is VERY fast. I booted a small Linuw distro on a 32MB CF. The same OS on an IDE drive was quite a bit smaller. 2006/9/12, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Sep 11,

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
I did boot my PC with a CF card. The thing is NOT to let it swap on the CF otherwise, it will quickly go away. Otherwise it is VERY fast. I booted a small Linuw distro on a 32MB CF. The same OS on an IDE drive was quite a bit smaller. I meant The same OS on an IDE drive was quite a bit FASTER

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And apart from some pictures, what has that to do with the viability of CF? These devices will work just fine in SD cards too. Sure but the point is whatever the current density of chips the CF card will physically hold about 4x more than SD. --

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
and is ok to go up to 137GB ... 2006/9/12, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And apart from some pictures, what has that to do with the viability of CF? These devices will work just fine in SD cards too. Sure but the point is whatever

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 12.09.2006, at 14:16 , Digital Image Studio wrote: Sure but the point is whatever the current density of chips the CF card will physically hold about 4x more than SD. So what? You said you wouldn't use 8GB card because of risk of losing too many photos at once, and this capacity is already

RE: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Bill Owens
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:35 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media On 12.09.2006, at 14:16 , Digital Image Studio wrote: Sure but the point is whatever the current density of chips the CF card will physically hold about 4x more than SD. So

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/09/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what? You said you wouldn't use 8GB card because of risk of losing too many photos at once, and this capacity is already available in SD form ;-) Oh no that wasn't me, I gave up my 4GB microdrive because I don't trust drives, solid

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/09/06, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a thread sometime ago about a device that enables a SD card to be used in a device designed for CF? If so, could someone post a link to where one may be available. Yes there are but they slow down the fastest SD cards considerably,

RE: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Bill Owens
Thanks Rob, I think I'll stick with the 1 gb CF card and 4 gb microdrive. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:07 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Why CF is still

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:58 PM, John Francis wrote: Doesn't CF use a modified IDE interface? That might be a large part of why its still around. I'm not sure about CF using or being a modified IDE. It is. In fact, there are even passive adapters for CF-IDE (being the 40-pin sort found

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't recall anyone saying that CF cards were no longer viable storage devices, only that SD cards were replacing them in many cameras and were becoming the more common - dare I say, standard - card. Were I to be desirous of using a larger camera - like a 645 or a huge Nikon or Canon, CF would

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2006, at 6:07 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 12/09/06, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a thread sometime ago about a device that enables a SD card to be used in a device designed for CF? If so, could someone post a link to where one may be available. Yes

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/09/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall anyone saying that CF cards were no longer viable storage devices, only that SD cards were replacing them in many cameras and were becoming the more common - dare I say, standard - card. Were I to be desirous of using a

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/09/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similar or the same device is available from www.mittoni.com and www.psism.com as well. The device seems to have a maximum throughput rate equal to that of a 32x card. Likely, mine is the Mittoni one. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
indeed.I have a CF - IDE adapter which is passive. 2006/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:58 PM, John Francis wrote: Doesn't CF use a modified IDE interface? That might be a large part of why its still around. I'm not sure about CF using or being a

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread ryan brooks
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Interesting. Is it not also true that the CF to PC card adapters are basically passive adaption? The PCMCIA specification is very adaptable. Yes, it is not true. PCMCIA is more like ISA, so an adapter would have electronics. -- PDML

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2006, at 8:55 AM, ryan brooks wrote: Interesting. Is it not also true that the CF to PC card adapters are basically passive adaption? The PCMCIA specification is very adaptable. Yes, it is not true. PCMCIA is more like ISA, so an adapter would have electronics. Yes, it

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread Adam Maas
Digital Image Studio wrote: http://www.digitimes.com/Backgrounders/ArtReview.asp?datePublish=2006/09/11pages=PRseq=204Cat=1 http://tinyurl.com/puph6 From a dpreview post And apart from some pictures, what has that to do with the viability of CF? These devices will work just fine in SD

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread David Savage
At 10:18 AM 12/09/2006, Adam Maas wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote: http://www.digitimes.com/Backgrounders/ArtReview.asp?datePublish=2006/09/11pages=PRseq=204Cat=1 http://tinyurl.com/puph6 From a dpreview post And apart from some pictures, what has that to do with the viability of

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread Matt Kelch
David Savage wrote: At 10:18 AM 12/09/2006, Adam Maas wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote: http://www.digitimes.com/Backgrounders/ArtReview.asp?datePublish=2006/09/11pages=PRseq=204Cat=1 http://tinyurl.com/puph6 From a dpreview post And apart from some pictures, what

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Matt Kelch wrote: Doesn't CF use a modified IDE interface? That might be a large part of why its still around. I'm not sure about CF using or being a modified IDE. It stands for Integrated Drive Electronics and is a standard dreamt up to integrate drive

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Impressive. I never heard anyone say that CF wasn't a viable storage medium. It's just fallen back in use compared to SD and other, smaller card formats in recent times. Most new developments in flash memory devices start in CF form factor because it's large and easier to design for.

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread Ryan Brooks
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Matt Kelch wrote: Doesn't CF use a modified IDE interface? That might be a large part of why its still around. I'm not sure about CF using or being a modified IDE. It is. In fact, there are even passive adapters for CF-IDE

Re: OT Why CF is still viable storage media

2006-09-11 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 11:02:23PM -0500, Ryan Brooks wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Matt Kelch wrote: Doesn't CF use a modified IDE interface? That might be a large part of why its still around. I'm not sure about CF using or being a