On 29/11/2011 18:59, Mark Roberts wrote:
"P. J. Alling" wrote:
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be happy
to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or third
e-mail
IIRC, Shel is the guy who "bought" a 77 Limited from Bill Robb and
never paid for
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Larry Colen
> Years later it would seem.
>
> There are times that I think it would be helpful, or at least fun, to
> be in a photographic critique group where people were straightforward,
> blunt, and occasionally creative
On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> I miss Shel as well.He was always blunt, and occasionally rude,
One would almost expect that being blunt and rude were practically requirements
for posting on PDML.
> but he made interesting and useful comments on images posted here,
On Nov 29, 2011, at 17:23 , Tom C wrote:
>> From: Paul Stenquist
>> As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was
>> aimed directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the
>> image. It was way out of line. There's never a need for a personal attack.
>>
> From: Paul Stenquist
> As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was aimed
> directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the image. It
> was way out of line. There's never a need for a personal attack.
> Paul
> On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:43 PM, William Rob
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:47 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> On 11/29/2011 6:45 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>>
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>>> David J Brooks
>>>
Shel could be an evil, evil man.
>>>
>>> I could give Dobo a call.
>>>
>> You'll find some help her
On 11/29/2011 12:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be
happy to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or
third e-mail (can't remember which and that was two upgrades and a
hard drive crash ago).. He intimated that he had
As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was aimed
directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the image. It was
way out of line. There's never a need for a personal attack.
Paul
On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:43 PM, William Robb wrote:
> On 29/11/2011 9:17 AM
> > I expect a different level of photos from Bill Robb or Mark C. or
> Frank and
> > can offer sharper criticism. With less experienced photographers,
> > it isn't so much criticism as encouragement.
> >
> That was, I believe, Shel's reasoning behind his harsh critique. The
> photographer had an
On 11/29/2011 6:45 PM, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
David J Brooks
Shel could be an evil, evil man.
I could give Dobo a call.
You'll find some help here:
< http://www.arcane-archive.org/faqs/summonspells.php>
B
But is there a good b
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> David J Brooks
>
> > Shel could be an evil, evil man.
>
> I could give Dobo a call.
>
You'll find some help here:
< http://www.arcane-archive.org/faqs/summonspells.php>
B
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On 29/11/2011 9:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
I expect a different level of photos from Bill Robb or Mark C. or Frank and
can offer sharper criticism. With less experienced photographers,
it isn't so much criticism as encouragement.
That was, I believe, Shel's reasoning behind his harsh critiq
NO! Please, anything but that.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:51 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
I could give Dobo a call.
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> Shel could be an evil, evil man.
I could give Dobo a call.
Dave
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"P. J. Alling" wrote:
>I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be happy
>to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or third
>e-mail
IIRC, Shel is the guy who "bought" a 77 Limited from Bill Robb and
never paid for it. This might explain his reluctance t
I contacted Shel a couple of years ago, it seems. He seemed to be happy
to hear from a list member but didn't respond to my second or third
e-mail (can't remember which and that was two upgrades and a hard drive
crash ago).. He intimated that he had some health and financial
concerns that kep
On 11/29/2011 12:05 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Doug Brewer
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
/
/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture ever
From: Doug Brewer
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
/
/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture every so often - and
thus was born the PESO, GESO
ond a critique, becoming a personal attack. I
> think the whole affair led to his leaving the list.
>
> I should look him up one of these days, see how he's doing.
>
> cheers,
>
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Doug Brewer
> Sent: November 29,
I miss Shel as well.He was always blunt, and occasionally rude,
but he made interesting and useful comments on images posted here, and
his point of view always gave us something to think -- and talk --
about.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 a
On 11/29/2011 12:38 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
Pretty sure it was our Cory Waters that spawned PESO. Don't know what
happened to Shel, though.
I do think that Shel was the one who raised the point about posting
photos vs talking about them - don't know about the
ewer
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On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
> /
> /I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
> Belinkoff once posted that we all talk
On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
/
/I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel
Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually
share them and suggested that we post a picture every so often - and
thus was born the PESO, GESO, etc tradition. Hi
On 11/27/2011 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
The PUG started in pre-digital days when the ability to share photos
online wasn't as trivial as it is now and, to some extent, the
widespread uses of PESOs and GESOs has taken over part of its role.
But a themed gallery combining the talents of membe
On 11/27/2011 5:00 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, "Larry Colen"
wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always been
a function
The universe at large.
On 11/27/2011 4:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always been
a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function of Pentax
but is now a wholl
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:00 PM, "Stan Halpin"
wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, "Larry Colen"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> >>
> >>> AFAIK the PUG has never had any official
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, "Larry Colen"
> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>>> AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
>>> been a function of the members of the g
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
>> been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function
>> of Pentax but is now a wholly o
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:22 PM, "Larry Colen"
wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
> > AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
> > been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function
> > of Pentax but is n
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's always
> been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a function of
> Pentax but is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Brewer Productions.
>
Ah, OK.So, t
AFAIK the PUG has never had any official connection to Pentax, it's
always been a function of the members of the group. The List was once a
function of Pentax but is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Brewer
Productions.
On 11/27/2011 3:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Since this topic has little to
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