On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 05:56:05PM +1200, David Mann wrote:
On Apr 13, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Illinois Bill wrote:
I also have had some trouble with pre-carple tunnel symptoms.
My solution right now (besides the physical therapy) has been to
utilize different pointing devices depending on
Scott,
I also have had some trouble with pre-carple tunnel symptoms. My
solution right now (besides the physical therapy) has been to utilize
different pointing devices depending on where i am. In my work
office, I have a USB Microsoft Trackball (the kind controlled by your
thumb).
On Apr 13, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Illinois Bill wrote:
I also have had some trouble with pre-carple tunnel symptoms.
My solution right now (besides the physical therapy) has been to
utilize different pointing devices depending on where i am. In my
work office, I have a USB Microsoft
On Apr 8, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Cotty wrote:
I prefer the trackpad. Reinforces my oddball status.
I prefer trackpads as well. That company-supplied laptop I had when
I visited you had one of those horrible nipple things. After half an
hour or so of using it, my hand would start to hurt.
On 8/4/06, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
The Toshi's have had them for year too, thankfully
most of their Trackpad enabled units also have the legacy keyboard joy-
stick
pointer, which I actually find quite quick and accurate to use. I guess it
boils down to the dexterity of the
On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:37 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
The trackpoint nipples are my second choice. Mice and the trackpads
are way down the list. I like trackballs. I have two Logitech Marble
Mouse trackballs - one for work and one for home. A few years ago I
suffered from a bit of carpal
Speaking of weird keyboards.
http://gadgets.fosfor.se/the-top-10-weirdest-keyboards-ever
I want No. 6 :-)
Dave S
On 4/8/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:37 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
The trackpoint nipples are my second choice. Mice and the trackpads
are way
Well, I do not think the wrist keyboard is weird --it would certainly
make sense for many mobile computing applications-- but boy is it expensive.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
David
On Apr 7, 2006, at 4:07 AM, graywolf wrote:
Almost all Unix type software can be run on any of those if you can
get the source code and compile it for your system.
That's very simplified :)
Writing portable Unix software is quite an undertaking as there are
many little differences in
On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
BSD is both a kernel and some userspace tools (with some GNU tools,
mostly the gcc toolchain also necessary), it's much more integrated
than say Linux, which is an amalgam of a bunch of not necessarily
related projects (Almost none of which are
On Apr 7, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Bob W wrote:
Apple seem to want to turn into a company that sells tin, rather
than one
that sells software. The OS is basically Unix, and now there's nothing
different about the tin it runs on. I'd say they're getting out of the
software business.
Apple write a
On Apr 7, 2006, at 1:30 AM, Perry Pellechia wrote:
Call me crazy but I am someone who would be (and is) interested in
this. I use Corel Draw to make figures with (NMR) data for scientific
publications. I also use it for making drawings that I use in the
class I teach. While there might be
FWIW I think they've become a software company that uses its
software to sell its hardware. When I bought my computer I
bought it for the OS alone. I couldn't care less what's
inside the shiny box, but I had to buy the shiny box with the
Apple on the side as that's all that would run
Personally, I find using the keyboard in conjunction with a one
button mouse easier and faster for most things.
Here here!
Here too! :-)
Bedo.
On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
There is a current suit over Apple selling music in its on-line
store. When they settled the last suit, part of the deal was that
they would not sell music. Looks like they're selling music to
Apple Corps, and to me as well.
I think
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Bob Shell wrote:
No, the suit I am talking about was just reported on the news last
week. The earlier settlement in which Apple agreed not to sell
music was before on-line music sales were ever envisioned, and
Apple is trying to say that it only applies to the
That's very simplified :)
Writing portable Unix software is quite an undertaking as there are many
little differences in APIs, even though the systems tend to operate in much
the same way. I've even had problems with shell scripts, although GNU
utilities help a lot if they're installed.
Of course it is. However I was not trying to be a guru, I was just
commenting on Shel's idea of one size fits all computing. However I
never have had that much of a problem running something I had the source
code for. Yeh, maybe it needed a tweek or two to run on the equipment I
had. But tell
I still think the little red eraser in the middle of Thinkpad keyboards
is the quickest and easiest pointer device to use in conjuction with the
keyboard, no need to move your hand back and forth between them.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot
As someone who uses Thinkpads daily, the nipple is better than a
trackpad, but significantly inferior to a mouse. The mouse is simply
more accurate and faster.
Both my Thinkpads have USB mice attached.
My Mac has a 4 button mouse. Right-clicking is faster than ctrl-clicking.
-Adam
I never suggested anything of the sort. The concept of one-size-fits-all
computing was first proffered by ~you~.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: graywolf
Of course it is. However I was not trying to be a guru, I was just
commenting on Shel's idea of one size fits all computing.
Ah, but the comment wasn't about which is better used by itself, but
which was better used in in conjunction with the keyboard. I would not
chose the eraser pointer to use with PhotoShop or browsing, but I would
for word processing.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Twas merely my translation of what you said in a paragraph or two. It is
of course possible I read you wrong.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I never suggested
One of my clients has a Thinkpad and I've occasionally been called to
do something with it. I find the red pointer thingus, whatever they
call it, to be incredibly irritating to use. It is nearly impossible
for me to do something with it that doesn't need to be redone a
couple of times to
Trackpads hate me and I return the feeling. I get greasy fingertips
(genetic predisposition to sweat in anything resembling warmth) and
trackpads hate that as it confuses the sensors. I also find them quite
inaccurate even when I've got dry fingertips. And I'm always dragging
the heel of a
I love these ThinkPads Trackpoints :D
So much more precise ;)
On 4/7/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of my clients has a Thinkpad and I've occasionally been called to
do something with it. I find the red pointer thingus, whatever they
call it, to be incredibly irritating to
I must, I have ye olde Thinkpad X24 from eBay coming. Should be here
next week. This is kind of exciting because I have been without a laptop
for the past 3 years. Now I wonder what I did with that pack of spare
Trackpoint rubbers I had for the 750C.
At the price I paid I have to hope it
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
To each their own.
(snipped remainder)
I think this applies to everybody's comments about mice, trackpads,
etc., in this thread.
It's all preferences and comfort, right?
On Apr 7, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
... I guess it boils down to the dexterity of the user.
I don't think so. I do a pretty passable job at other high dexerity
tasks.
It boils down to what you have trained your fingers to accommodate,
that's all. Just like multibutton mice
To each their own. Buy lots of them and enjoy.
My reaction when forced to work on a computer with one is to turn it
off and plug in a mouse. Happily, only Windows systems that I will
never own have them.
Godfrey
On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Thibouille wrote:
I love these ThinkPads
On 7 Apr 2006 at 16:24, Adam Maas wrote:
Trackpads hate me and I return the feeling. I get greasy fingertips
(genetic predisposition to sweat in anything resembling warmth) and
trackpads hate that as it confuses the sensors. I also find them quite
inaccurate even when I've got dry
The trackpoint nipples are my second choice. Mice and the trackpads
are way down the list. I like trackballs. I have two Logitech Marble
Mouse trackballs - one for work and one for home. A few years ago I
suffered from a bit of carpal tunnel, so I switched to the trackball.
No more carpal
On Apr 7, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Agreed. Happily, the GNU-utils have become the de-facto standard
(and in general most feature-rich and easy-to-use) for making a unix
(-like) OS go.
In general yes, but I've encountered some systems (namely Solaris)
that tuck the GNU
On 5/4/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
sound of hell freezing over
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
If am right, you can, mishka, there are plenty of manuals how to do
that, one of them
http://osx86.theplaceforitall.com/howto/
/d/
--
ing. david lacina | http://lacina.net | +47 90 85 82 01
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Mishka wrote:
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
i would rather run OSX on my AMD PC.
I don't know why anyone would want to do it, but Apple must think
there is a demand.
Bob
Call me crazy but I am someone who would be (and is) interested in
this. I use Corel Draw to make figures with (NMR) data for scientific
publications. I also use it for making drawings that I use in the
class I teach. While there might be other options available for the
Mac platform I am not
Games are probably the number one reason why some Mac owners would like to be
able to run Windows. My daughter is certainly one of them. She built a
well-speced PC just for games, although she uses a Mac for work both at home
and at the office. (She's a graphic designer.)
--
On 4/6/06, Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sure there are more people like me how are unwilling to give up
software that we currently run on our PCs. I do not think Apple can
afford to overlook these potential customers.
Perry.
I'm in the same boat. I would have no problem
On 4/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Games are probably the number one reason why some Mac owners would like to be
able to run Windows. My daughter is certainly one of them. She built a
well-speced PC just for games, although she uses a Mac for work both at home
and at the
Op Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:09:09 +0200 schreef Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
Some terrific software is windows only.
On 4/5/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
--
Regards, Lucas
I'm not sure how many mac users will actually DO this . . .
Also, talk about writing a virus for a mac, without writing a virus
for a mac. What do you bet that someone hasn't already written a
windows virus that will find and delete any mac partitions on a disk?
IL Bill
On Apr 6, 2006,
Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Graphic design has always been dominated by Mac. A lot of the
engineering design software just isn't available for Mac computers.
(At least not in the ship design field)
Dave S.
Or the survey field. Atleast nothing i'm aware of.
I have limited
Bob Shell wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Mishka wrote:
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
i would rather run OSX on my AMD PC.
I don't know why anyone would want to do it, but Apple must think there
is a demand.
Bob
Well, right now it's the only way to get decent Photoshop
Mishka,
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
i would rather run OSX on my AMD PC.
IMHO it's a pretty neat idea - I know many people who are afraid to buy
Apple because I can't run program xxx which requires windows, I can't
run my favourite game XXX etc, etc. Now they can, so they can go
One of the main reasons i went with ibook as my laptop instead of a
Toshiba or HP model, was i was tired of all the Windows attacks on my
PC.
Will this be a problem now that Bill Gates is inside a Mac. Will
hackers go after Mac systems because Bills a part.
I hope not.
BTW i decided on the
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:18 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
One of the main reasons i went with ibook as my laptop instead of a
Toshiba or HP model, was i was tired of all the Windows attacks on
my PC.
Will this be a problem now that Bill Gates is inside a Mac. Will
hackers go after Mac systems
Of course the trick is: you can use it if you need it for a couple apps.
When you're finished, reboot and reactivate connections to the Net ;)
On 4/6/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:18 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
One of the main reasons i went with ibook as my
Steady Stenquist said:
Games are probably the number one reason why
some Mac owners would like to be
able to run Windows. My daughter is certainly one
of them. She built a well-speced PC just for games,
although she uses a Mac for work both at home
and at the office. (She's a graphic
Well, I for one never did much like the one size fits all world.
Besides that MAC OSX is a propietory version of BSD. There are basically
two free Unix type OS in the world BSD and Linux (you can not make a
propiatory version of Linux due to the GNU Public License). Almost all
Unix type
It's not a one size fits all solution there can be a variety of
brands, machines, and styles and features, but all can do the same work.
Just like there are a variety cars, all of which can drive on the same
roads.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: graywolf
Well, I for one never did
If they all run Windows they all have the same look and feel and the
same reliability problems. Actually I like it when motorcycles had
different control layout from one another before the US Government
decided to regulate that. Hey, maybe you could get them to regulate
operating systems, then
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
It's not a one size fits all solution there can be a variety of
brands, machines, and styles and features, but all can do the same
work.
Just like there are a variety cars, all of which can drive on the same
roads.
Or a variety of
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:33 PM, graywolf wrote:
Orwell was wrong, it was not 1984, it was 1994!
He really meant 1948 anyways.
-Aaron
Probably time to chime in. This is not meant to push one direction or
another, just offering a viewpoint. One thing to keep in mind is that
many Windows users (myself included) are plenty happy with their
computing. I have no desire or need to consider a Mac, because I am
not bothered or
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 April 2006 13:57
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Run Windoze on your Mac
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Mishka wrote:
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
i would rather run OSX on my AMD PC.
I don't know why anyone would want to do
.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 April 2006 13:57
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Run Windoze on your Mac
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Mishka wrote:
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
i would rather run OSX on my AMD
I'd have to agree that this certainly makes Apple computers more
buy-able for me. I have been a Windows person all my life. I used a
Mac for a while and it does do some things better. However the
learning I needed to do to get some tasks done was rather frustrating
and didn't seem to be worth
Close but no cigar, gw.
Berkeley System Design (BSD) UNIX components are a mixture of
presentation and service layers above the OS kernel. Most Linux
systems run an ELF kernel, with derivatives of FreeBSD, the Open
Source versions of BSD components, fitted on top. Mac OS X uses an
Mach
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Apple's never been a software company. It's always been a sideline,
a way to sell their hardware.
This is confusing even inside the company, but to say that they are
not a software company seems facetious given the huge impact that
Final Cut
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Apple's never been a software company. It's always been a sideline, a
way to sell their hardware.
This is confusing even inside the company, but to say that they are not
a software company seems facetious given the
I'll just note that Darwin is essentially dead at this point. Apple
essentially killed it a while back, around the time they announced the
move to Intel (Darwin was always more active on x86 than it was on PPC).
BSD is both a kernel and some userspace tools (with some GNU tools,
mostly the
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
I'll just note that Darwin is essentially dead at this point. Apple
essentially killed it a while back, around the time they announced
the move to Intel (Darwin was always more active on x86 than it was
on PPC).
I'm not sure what you mean by
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
I'll just note that Darwin is essentially dead at this point. Apple
essentially killed it a while back, around the time they announced
the move to Intel (Darwin was always more active on x86 than it was
on PPC).
I'm
On Apr 6, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Badri A wrote:
And what's the deal with the single mouse-click? G It's downright
silly to do Ctrl+Click when you could just use another button. As
silly as having one button change both shutter speed and aperture as
some all-auto starter SLRs do. Mac seems to
If we were to look at revenue statements of the past year or
so, it could be said that Apple Computer is a music
distributor and music playing device vendor by a healthy
percentage... !!
Don't let Apple Corp hear you say that!
Bob
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Bob W wrote:
If we were to look at revenue statements of the past year or
so, it could be said that Apple Computer is a music
distributor and music playing device vendor by a healthy
percentage... !!
Don't let Apple Corp hear you say that!
I heard the Apple
-Original Message-
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 April 2006 22:40
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Run Windoze on your Mac
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Bob W wrote:
If we were to look at revenue statements of the past year
or so
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Bob Shell wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Badri A wrote:
And what's the deal with the single mouse-click? G It's downright
silly to do Ctrl+Click when you could just use another button. As
silly as having one button change both shutter speed and aperture as
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
I'll just note that Darwin is essentially dead at this point.
Apple essentially killed it a while back, around the time they
announced the move to Intel (Darwin was always more active on
x86 than it was on PPC).
I'm not sure what you mean
On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I heard the Apple Corps filed suit back when SJ announced the first
iPod, and that the suit was closed by Apple paying a once and
final settlement fee.
SJ could probably just buy them if he felt they were a threat.
There is a current
On Apr 6, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Bob Shell wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I heard the Apple Corps filed suit back when SJ announced the
first iPod, and that the suit was closed by Apple paying a once
and final settlement fee.
SJ could probably just buy them if he
On 6/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Personally, I find using the keyboard in conjunction with a one
button mouse easier and faster for most things.
Here here!
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
Boot Camp news:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4883482.stm
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
On 4/6/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be great if, instead of needing two computers to get the
necessary work done, one machine would suffice.
just think how great it would be if you had to reboot the whole
damn thing every time you need to open a file in photoshop.
if
Yes, although more correctly this should be titled:
run Windoze on your Apple
because if it isn't running Mac OS, it isn't a Mac.
G
On Apr 5, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Bob Shell wrote:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
why replace a terrific OS with garbage?
i would rather run OSX on my AMD PC.
best,
mishka
On 4/5/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
77 matches
Mail list logo
