RE: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-26 Thread Jens Bladt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. september 2007 21:07 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: The Cult of Leica Leica PS cameras. Aren't they just re-badged Panasonics? Jim A. Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica PS that is 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-26 Thread Adam Maas
, are they? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. september 2007 21:07 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: The Cult

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-25 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/19/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Panasonic LX2 if it's the pocket one, not sure which Panasonic the EVF one is rebadged from. Supposedly quite a nice camera. Cheaper without the Red Dot too. I have the Leica D-Lux 3 (which is also the Panny LX2 - I thought it looked

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
That's a fairly nice collection of photographs. (So some were just record shots, but some showed a lot of imagination). Amita Guha wrote: On 9/19/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Panasonic LX2 if it's the pocket one, not sure which Panasonic the EVF one is rebadged from.

RE: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/19 Wed PM 05:59:28 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: The Cult of Leica On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 20, 2007, at 2:20 AM, mike wilson wrote: Treating film as sackcloth and ashes is the surest way I can think of killing it off completely. It isn't dead already?];-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Walter Hamler wrote: Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica PS that is 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about 500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy. Walt It's a Panasonic LX2 if it's the pocket one, not sure which Panasonic

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ? I thought it was some sort of military vehicle... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ? I thought it was some sort of military vehicle... The M8 was a cancelled project that ended up having the prototypes see service in Afghanistan (As the vehicle that was supposed to fill the hole,

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread japilado
Leica PS cameras. Aren't they just re-badged Panasonics? Jim A. Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica PS that is 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about 500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 20/09/2007, John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about that..I have an M4...the last of the bench built Leicas. It also is a fantastic machine as well as a great camera. The sound of a Leica going off is delicious just by itself. I think that bringing any Leica to your

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread graywolf
IIRC, he originally said that he has seen that happen but didn't get the photo, so did a recreation of it. Decades later he claimed it was not staged. So you decide. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was staged. True? Apparently the

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread graywolf
Just laziness, that's all. frank theriault wrote: On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway. Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's fault:-). I have to say,

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: pnstenquist BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was staged. True? Apparently the writer of the article doesn't think so. Paul The Eisenstaedt quote would indicate it was not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread graywolf
Gullibles travels. That photo appeared in Life Magazine in 1945. Back then there were two people in the US who did not at least browse through Life Magazine, they were both in a coma (hypebole for emphasis). And it took 50+ years to find the people in the photo. HCB himself told the story

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Bob W wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/ Nice article, thanks for posting the link. I enjoyed my Leica lenses and cameras immensely ... All told I had the IIc, IIf, IIIf, M3, M4-P (x2), and M6TTL over the period from 1969

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Cesar
Bob, Thanks for the link. It was a most interesting read. I had to chuckle with The photographer was on the run, so whatever he was carrying had to be light and trim enough not to be a drag. I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used) and the one thing that I recall after a day of shooting

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Arr, matey, but compared to the other gear o' the day, such be ye Medalist, ar some such press device, t'were light an' handy... Cesar wrote: Bob, Thanks for the link. It was a most interesting read. I had to chuckle with The photographer was on the run, so whatever he was carrying had to

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread frank theriault
On 9/19/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/ It's not a real Leica (being that the body, while designed in Wetzlar, was made by Minolta in Japan), but I really must pull out my CL and take it for a walk. Thanks for a terrific

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Cesar wrote: I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used) Mark! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread pnstenquist
Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway. Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's fault:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/19/07, Bob W [EMAIL

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cesar wrote: I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used) Mark! Why? Am I missing something? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Bob W wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/ Bob An interesting read. Bit of a love-in for the Leica (Especially the comment about the Leica + 50mm being the camera that took more famous pictures than anything else, IIRC someone ran the numbers on

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread pnstenquist
BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was staged. True? Apparently the writer of the article doesn't think so. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread frank theriault
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway. Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's fault:-). I have to say, Paul, while I hope to be shooting TriX in my Leica for a

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread pnstenquist
It also ignores the thread mount cameras, which is odd given its fascination with beautiful machinery. For sheer mechanical artistry, I don't think anything can compare with a IIIG or even a IIIf. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cesar wrote: I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used) Mark! Why? Am I missing something? Never mind. Must have been a MOTO moment. g -- Scott Loveless

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
I wouldn't be shocked to hear that's true, a lot of Eisenstaedt's work was posed, especially the early work. But that's one of the few shots by him that doesn't seem lifeless to me, so it may well be a candid. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
It doesn't entirely. But the Uver-Leica is and always will be the M3. The LTM cameras are more baroque in design and interfere in your shooting more (stupid shutter dials). -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It also ignores the thread mount cameras, which is odd given its fascination with

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread pnstenquist
True, the LTMs aren't as capable as an M3, but they're prettier. And the IIIg is more expensive, which is partly due to its having been produced small numbers but it's also a function of its desirability. -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread frank theriault
On 9/19/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't be shocked to hear that's true, a lot of Eisenstaedt's work was posed, especially the early work. But that's one of the few shots by him that doesn't seem lifeless to me, so it may well be a candid. I'm sure it ~wasn't~ staged. I

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Or a function of how collectors distort a market. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, the LTMs aren't as capable as an M3, but they're prettier. And the IIIg is more expensive, which is partly due to its having been produced small numbers but it's also a function of its desirability.

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread John Graves
I don't know about that..I have an M4...the last of the bench built Leicas. It also is a fantastic machine as well as a great camera. The sound of a Leica going off is delicious just by itself. I think that bringing any Leica to your eye changes your viewpoint because the emphasis is

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was staged. True? Apparently the writer of the article doesn't think so. Nope. That was a genuine grab shot. They just recently succeeded in tracking down both the sailor and the nurse in that photo, by the

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Cotty
Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Avast there who be castin' aspersions there. Course it be a leica, it be scribed right on her. Cotty wrote: Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ? -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I played with one in my friend's studio. It's definitely a Leica. (And the price is a dead giveaway:-). However, I don't think it will hold its value in the way most Leica's do. Like all digital cameras, it will be a victim of immature technology. Paul The guys on

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread pnstenquist
I played with one in my friend's studio. It's definitely a Leica. (And the price is a dead giveaway:-). However, I don't think it will hold its value in the way most Leica's do. Like all digital cameras, it will be a victim of immature technology. Paul -- Original message

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Cotty wrote: Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ? The M8 be as much a Leica as me arse be as cute as Cindy Crawford`s. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 05:15:34AM +0100, Bob W wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/ An interesting read, even though I don't feel tempted by a Leica. I was also intigued to note that it's currently the most read (or viewed?) article in the online edition

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
It's not a Panasonic, which the unLeica's all are. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Avast there who be castin' aspersions there. Course it be a leica, it be scribed right on her. Cotty wrote: Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Scott Loveless wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I played with one in my friend's studio. It's definitely a Leica. (And the price is a dead giveaway:-). However, I don't think it will hold its value in the way most Leica's do. Like all digital cameras, it will be a victim of immature

RE: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Bob W
An interesting read. Bit of a love-in for the Leica (Especially the comment about the Leica + 50mm being the camera that took more famous pictures than anything else, IIRC someone ran the numbers on the Pulitzer and the Nikon F came out on top by a fair margin, just because of the 60's

RE: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread Bob W
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway. Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's fault:-). I have to say, Paul, while I hope to be shooting TriX in my Leica

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-19 Thread frank theriault
On 9/19/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you look at pictures of Vietnam photographers you'll notice that a lot - perhaps most - of them have Nikons AND Leicas round their necks. That was certainly true of Nick Ut. The famous and tragic photo of Kim Phuc was taken with a Leica, but

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-18 Thread Boris Liberman
What a pleasant reading. But Bob, I know you have one. I don't... Worse yet, I want one now ;-). Cheers! Boris Bob W wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The Cult of Leica

2007-09-18 Thread P. J. Alling
A strangely compelling article. I never warmed to the Leica but this almost makes me want to get the shutter unjammed in my IIIc Bob W wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/ Bob -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail