Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Walker
P. J. Alling wrote: Their Japanese site doesn't Google Translation http://tinyurl.com/lq3psw Joseph McAllister wrote: Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.

2009-09-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Pentax can do any damn thing they want. I expect that the K-7 would have been the replacement for the K20D except that it was more than an incremental change. I expect that the K200D was slated for replacement and the new Camera will be something between the K20 and K200 in capabilities.

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.

2009-09-06 Thread paul stenquist
I think what Ned said was that the K7 wasn't the k30. It wasn't the next iteration of that series, but rather a new direction. I don't think it was was ever said that both cameras would continue to be available. As the owner of both a K20D and a K7D, I'd have to say they're too close in

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.

2009-09-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information. Let's see - the model is more than a year old - so it is understandable that they should no longer be

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.

2009-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Their Japanese site doesn't Google Translation http://tinyurl.com/lq3psw Joseph McAllister wrote: Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information.

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-30 Thread Thibouille
May I try it for you? Descartes' version: Common sense is the best distributed thing in the world. Thibouille's version: Stupidity and ignorance are the best distributed things in the world. It seems to work pretty well like that, thank you :) I don't know what you're thinking about,

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-30 Thread mike wilson
From: Inner Focus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/29 Thu PM 10:35:57 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D - Original Message From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-29 Thread Derby Chang
Doug Franklin wrote: David Savage wrote: It's called trap focus you can already do it. But it only works with MF lenses or AF lenses that turn off all their (digital?) electronics when in MF mode. For example, my SMCP-FA* 200/2.8 won't do it in any (lens) mode. My Sigma APO

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Derby Chang wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: But [trap focus] only works with MF lenses or AF lenses that turn off all their (digital?) electronics when in MF mode. For example, my SMCP-FA* 200/2.8 won't do it in any (lens) mode. My Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro, though, will do trap focus when

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
It would be nice, (and probably easy), to add a firmware switch to enable it with any lens, but I expect that Pentax wants to avoid a lot of returns for repair when the camera stops autofocusing properly. Beaker wrote: Dooh.. (slaps forhead) Dang- trap focus, why it's obvious, once you

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: It would be nice, (and probably easy), to add a firmware switch to enable it with any lens, but I expect that Pentax wants to avoid a lot of returns for repair when the camera stops autofocusing properly. Sad but true. I've been told be people associated with Pentax and

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-29 Thread Thibouille
Descartes once said Le bon sens est la chose au monde la mieux partagée... I won't tréanslate it in English because my English knowledge is much too limited but defenitely I would change it to (still in French of course): La stupidité et l'ignorance sont les choses au monde les mieux partagées...

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-29 Thread Inner Focus
- Original Message From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D Descartes once said Le bon sens est la chose au monde la mieux partagée... I won't tréanslate

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread David J Brooks
If it can do iso 6400 with the noise i get at current 800 with the K 10D, i *might* look into one. Moving from 10-14 MP is not a factor for me, i still shoot, 2.74 or 4 mp for equine work.:-) One question as i have not heard of the term before. What is AF trim. Dave On Nov 27, 2007 9:29 PM,

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread Derby Chang
David J Brooks wrote: If it can do iso 6400 with the noise i get at current 800 with the K 10D, i *might* look into one. Moving from 10-14 MP is not a factor for me, i still shoot, 2.74 or 4 mp for equine work.:-) One question as i have not heard of the term before. What is AF trim. Dave

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Nov 28, 2007 8:09 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: One question as i have not heard of the term before. What is AF trim. Dave On Nov 27, 2007 9:29 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canon has it but only on their EOS 1DIIIKSMs or whatever. If

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread Thibouille
Oh and fps would be a good reason too... if that's something you interested in... On Nov 28, 2007 3:29 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and fps would be a good reason too... if that's something you interested in... Sort of. I have cameras that can do 8-9 FPS but i rarely use over 3-4. Dave On Nov 28, 2007 3:29 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread Beaker
Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Beaker Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread Bob Blakely
Snap (or trip) on focus. Regards, Bob... - Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From: Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a mode I'd like to see,

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread David Savage
At 09:25 AM 29/11/2007, Beaker wrote: Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
You can already do that but it requires the use of a manual focus lens. (and sadly only works with the central focus sensor) Beaker wrote: Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: It's called trap focus you can already do it. But it only works with MF lenses or AF lenses that turn off all their (digital?) electronics when in MF mode. For example, my SMCP-FA* 200/2.8 won't do it in any (lens) mode. My Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro, though, will do trap

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-28 Thread Beaker
Dooh.. (slaps forhead) Dang- trap focus, why it's obvious, once you mention it. Just never put one and one together. Mike On Nov 28, 2007, at 8:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: You can already do that but it requires the use of a manual focus lens. (and sadly only works with the central focus

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Derby Chang a écrit : Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ I have read

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread Thibouille
My informations are Pentax sensor. Obviously Pentax can't fab the sensor themselves so they need a manufacturer: Samsung or Cypress. Samsung is more likely of course. BTW this post is only a copy/paste of what is dicussed for a week or two on Pentaxforums/DpReview etc. -- Thibault Massart aka

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread Brendan MacRae
Here's another my buddy emailed me: (much of the same stuff) http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/26/pentax-rumored-to-be-readying-k20d-k200d-dslrs/ -Brendan --- Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread Toralf Lund
Derby Chang wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. Ah. It's speculation-about-new-cameras time again. So apparently Scott, who thought the aperture simulator discussion was up next, was wrong ;-) We could combine the two, of course... But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I hadn't seen exactly these rumors before. However 14mp is getting into the resolution medium speed perfectly exposed 35mm film is capable of recording, and a heck of a lot better than most 35mm film actually does record. Pentax digital has more or less come of age. Now if Pentax can manage

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread pnstenquist
No argument here. But even the upgrade from 6mp to 10 gave me a lot in terms of room to crop, so I'm expecting another plus from 14mp. And I suspect the new sensor will probably show less noise than the current crop. That would be another big plus. Paul -- Original message

Re: Pentax K20D and K200D

2007-11-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ - Pentax-designed 14 mp CMOS sensor in APS-C