RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-08 Thread Jens Bladt
-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x 4.5 cm while the 67 is 6 cm x 7 cm? That makes the 645 nearly square. Is the 645 inferior due to its size? I'm mainly thinking of landscape shots. - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-08 Thread Doug Miles
On 10/08/06 10:12, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the 6x7 is closer to nearly square, isn't it? Not really, Jens... Sounds nearly square, but the designation only represents a nominal dimension expressed to the nearest whole centimetre. And further, it's converted from inch

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-06 Thread Gasha
I have to agree about durability. MF version of 645 is like a piece of rock. 645 is great for portraits, because of handholdability and shallow DOF. And of course for landscapes. Gasha Mark Roberts wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:14:46 +1000, you wrote: Somewhere I have a list of the advantages

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Pentax medium formats Basically what your saying is if you don't look close you cant Tell the difference. Well there is a difference IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK. Its not something that's never seen either IMHO. What I am saying

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread gfen
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought the 645 users were the junior brothers of the brotherhood, Ahem, that was the Little Brotherhood. ;) We were better than those Brotherhood types, if for no other reason than our backs were unbowed from lack of weight 'round our necks. I went

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread Peter Jordan
SLR. Peter - Original Message - From: J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:46 AM Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x 4.5 cm while the 67 is 6 cm x 7 cm

re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread dougbrewer
Peter Jordan wrote: There is an inevitable trade off between image size, camera size and convenience. Each of us will have a point at which they feel comfortable in this continuum. For some who value image quality above all, they're willing to carry a 10x8 field camera around with them, for

RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats There is an inevitable trade off between image size, camera size and convenience. Each of us will have a point at which they feel comfortable in this continuum. For some who value image quality above all, they're willing to carry

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 05/10/06, Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I find the image quality of 645 slides more than adequate. 6x7 would be better, but I can carry my 645 camera, a set of 5 lenses (45, 55, 75, 150, 200), 2x converter and a 35mm body with zoom comfortably in a backpack. If I tried

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Jostein Øksne
First thing you need to know about is the Brotherhood, which is the unofficial PDML guild of 67 users. Then there is the smaller, but nonetheless defiant, Sisterhood of 645 users. :-) Seriously, the main trade-off is between weight of the gear and size of the negative. Figure out what kind of

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought the 645 users were the junior brothers of the brotherhood, (kind of like most younger brothers annoying and always underfoot), ant the *ist-D[x] users were the *isterhood... Jostein Øksne wrote: First thing you need to know about is the Brotherhood, which is the unofficial PDML guild

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:14:46 +1000, you wrote: I really want to get a medium format at some point for landscape and maybe even macro shots. I keep an eye on Pentax 67 and to a lesser extent Pentax 645 gear on Ebay. 645 appears to be cheaper on average. Being a complete medium format

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot medium format, I'd want the substantially larger negative. I also like the 6x7 configuration. The camera is the same shape as a giant 35mm SLR. It feels right in my hands. I have no problem with its size and weight, but I'm a fairly big

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread J and K Messervy
pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot medium format, I'd want the substantially larger negative. I also like the 6x7 configuration. The camera is the same shape as a giant 35mm SLR. It feels

RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot medium format, I'd want the substantially larger negative. I

RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Messervy Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x 4.5 cm while the 67 is 6 cm x 7 cm? That makes the 645 nearly square. Is the 645 inferior due to its size? I'm mainly thinking of landscape

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot medium format, I'd want the substantially larger negative. I also like the 6x7 configuration. The camera is the same shape as a giant 35mm SLR. It feels right in my hands. I have no problem with its size

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Than a 35MM SLR!. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Doug Miles
On 10/03/06 16:31, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot medium format, I'd want the substantially larger negative. I also like the 6x7 configuration. The camera is the same shape as a giant 35mm SLR. It feels right in my hands. I have

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd disagree, just based on experience with numerous other negs of that and other sizes. Those are nominal sizes. The actual image area is most likely smaller, although sometimes larger in one dimension or another. http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00E9nktag= Shel [Original

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, those are approximate sizes, but the comparison holds. Paul On Oct 3, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'd disagree, just based on experience with numerous other negs of that and other sizes. Those are nominal sizes. The actual image area is most likely smaller, although

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2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: Pentax medium formats I really want to get a medium format at some point for landscape and maybe even macro shots. I keep an eye on Pentax 67 and to a lesser extent Pentax 645 gear on Ebay. 645 appears to be cheaper on average.

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2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats BTW: Anyone know where I can get a 67-645 lens adaptor? I'm thinking I might want to get some 67 lenses to try on my 645. I have two of them, but one has a Nikon mount on it. I am sure that a clever

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x 4.5 cm while the 67 is 6 cm x 7 cm? That makes the 645 nearly square. Is the 645 inferior due to its size? I'm mainly thinking of landscape shots. 6x7

RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats - Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Doug Miles
On 10/03/06 17:54, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd disagree, just based on experience with numerous other negs of that and other sizes. Those are nominal sizes. The actual image area is most likely smaller, although sometimes larger in one dimension or another. Like most all

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x 4.5 cm while the 67 is 6 cm x 7 cm? That makes the 645 nearly square. Is the 645 inferior due to its size? I'm mainly thinking

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats BTW: Anyone know where I can get a 67-645 lens adaptor? I'm thinking I might want to get some 67 lenses to try on my 645. I have two of them, but one has a Nikon mount on it. I am

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Pentax medium formats No, you can make a print roughly 55% larger in area with The P67 while maintaining same dpi/resolution in the print. P67 Is bigger, is better, in that regard. With dinky prints maybe No visible difference

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I think he's loooking for the adaptor to 645 mount, not a 35mm mount. Wow, three in one night. I either need to drink more, or less. I'm not sure which... William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Last I checked, 645 was 4:3 aspect, it's halfframe 6x9, which is 2:3. Duh. Brain fart. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I think he's loooking for the adaptor to 645 mount, not a 35mm mount. Wow, three in one night. I either need to drink more, or less. I'm not sure which... William Robb More

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I vote for more. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I think he's loooking for the adaptor to 645 mount, not a 35mm mount. Wow, three in one night. I either need to drink more, or less. I'm not sure which... William

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread David Savage
At 11:01 AM 4/10/2006, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I think he's loooking for the adaptor to 645 mount, not a 35mm mount. Wow, three in one night. I either need to drink more, or less. I'm not sure which... William Robb

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats If you don't need to take a leak, your not drinking enough. Well, then, I think after I go pee, I'll pour myself another whiskey. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Pentax medium formats No, you can make a print roughly 55% larger in area with The P67 while maintaining same dpi/resolution