Re: K10D has arrived

2006-11-30 Thread Kenneth Waller
realy looking forward to getting out and giving this a good test tomorrow! Go for it Mark! According to the latest weather, you're gonna get 4 to 8 inches of snow tomorrow. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: K10D has arrived I picked

Re: K10D has arrived

2006-11-30 Thread David Savage
At 12:37 PM 1/12/2006, Kenneth Waller wrote: realy looking forward to getting out and giving this a good test tomorrow! Go for it Mark! According to the latest weather, you're gonna get 4 to 8 inches of snow tomorrow. Kenneth Waller ...the PDML's North America weather man. :-) Dave --

Re: K10D has arrived

2006-11-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I picked up my K10D kit from the UPS depot today, and ran a few test shots (after charging up the battery.) I've only taken about 20 shots - I plan to give it a thorough workout in the storm tomorrow and hope to get many shots. But - here's shot 14 and 15, a couple of dark

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/23/2006 8:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had about equal luck with UPS and FedEx delivery service in the past year or two. No real problems with either, other than missing them and having to run to the depot to pick things up. FedEx is

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: At 10:10 AM 23/11/2006, Mark Roberts wrote: My K10D *hasn't* arrived. Brain-dead delivery driver came to the house at 10:30 this morning and was doubtless stunned to find that residents *work* for a living. This after I specified residential delivery - which tells them to come

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote: Have you ever tried to contact UPS about a problem? They make it impossible. I thought that BH's second day air option was FedEx. If I'd realized it was UPS (Unreliable Package System) I'd have paid more for a different carrier. I'm sure the shipment button I clicked on

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 23, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Have you ever tried to contact UPS about a problem? They make it impossible. I thought that BH's second day air option was FedEx. If I'd realized it was UPS (Unreliable Package System) I'd have paid more for a different carrier. I'm

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 23, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Have you ever tried to contact UPS about a problem? They make it impossible. I thought that BH's second day air option was FedEx. If I'd realized it was UPS (Unreliable Package System) I'd have paid more for a

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Rick Womer
Ummm...no. Just last week we had a FedEx Ground package that was eventually delivered to our neighbors, after two attempts at 10 and 11 am. The only delivery method that reliably works for me is to have packages delivered to my office (the one last week was too heavy to schlep home). Rick ---

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 23, 2006, at 8:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: The functional difference I've experienced is that FedEx always (even with their cheap ground service) knows enough to wait until after working hours to deliver to a private residence, whereas UPS still expects to find June Cleaver at home

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
For large packages with heavy insurance, FedEx is much cheaper. I had to ship several large crates of oil paintings to the west coast. UPS wanted $3000. FedEx did it for $750. Paul On Nov 23, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 23, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Have

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 23, 2006, at 8:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: The functional difference I've experienced is that FedEx always (even with their cheap ground service) knows enough to wait until after working hours to deliver to a private residence, whereas UPS still expects to find

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I live in a residential suburban area, where someone is usually available in every residence, so both UPS and FedEx show up late afternoon. We also get to know the drivers and tip them at Christmas, so they go out of their way to provide good service. Paul On Nov 23, 2006, at 11:58 AM,

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not around here they don't Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts The functional difference I've experienced is that FedEx always (even with their cheap ground service) knows enough to wait until after working hours to deliver to a private residence, whereas UPS still

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 23, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Well, ya see, you live out there in the back woods of San Francisco, whereas I'm in the cosmopolitan oasis of Pittsburgh... g LOL ... I don't live in the rustic joy that Shel does, just a little downtown suburbia. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-23 Thread Peter Loveday
Brain-dead delivery driver came to the house at 10:30 this morning and was doubtless stunned to find that residents *work* for a living. This after I specified residential delivery - which tells them to come by late in the day. They have always done so before but they may have new drivers on

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread Stan Halpin
The store owner was told about my dilemma. He called me and volunteered to take the camera home with him so I can pick it up from him there on Sunday. Now where is that thread about why we should support our local stores? Stan On Nov 22, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: Good news and

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread skye
did he offer to charge up the batteries for you too, Stan? Now there's real love. On 11/22/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The store owner was told about my dilemma. He called me and volunteered to take the camera home with him so I can pick it up from him there on Sunday. Now where

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread Stan Halpin
He didn't offer, I'll find out on Sunday if he thought of it. As well as he knows me, he probably figures I have two spare batteries charged up and ready to go... Stan On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:50 PM, skye wrote: did he offer to charge up the batteries for you too, Stan? Now there's real love.

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread Mark Roberts
My K10D *hasn't* arrived. Brain-dead delivery driver came to the house at 10:30 this morning and was doubtless stunned to find that residents *work* for a living. This after I specified residential delivery - which tells them to come by late in the day. They have always done so before but they

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I almost missed mine. My wife was vacuuming. The lawn service guys were doing a last cut. I left work early, and, somehow, I heard the knock on the door. I must have been a good boy this month. No, that couldnt' be it. Paul (Just lucky, I guess) On Nov 22, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Mark Roberts

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread David Savage
At 10:10 AM 23/11/2006, Mark Roberts wrote: My K10D *hasn't* arrived. Brain-dead delivery driver came to the house at 10:30 this morning and was doubtless stunned to find that residents *work* for a living. This after I specified residential delivery - which tells them to come by late in the day.

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark, Mine was supposed to reach me on Tuesday. I patiently (not!) waited all day, covering the door while Lynn went grocery shopping in the early morning and coming home early to wait as I was sure it would appear. The UPS guys had it in suburban Chicago and it was out for delivery! I checked

Re: K10D has arrived...

2006-11-22 Thread Mishka
just got mine from amazon. it was supposed to come on friday, but for whatever reason came a day early. the wait to charge the battery seems almost infinite/unbearable. just wondering how many people here got one today? best, mishka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-13 Thread Bob W
Subject: Re: The K10D Has Arrived! The problem with 4/3rds is that the crop is so extreme that using non-telephoto lenses via adaptors is an exercise in frustration. Canon offers you full-frame and a more reasonable crop (1.3x or 1.6x) that at least leave your wide angles semi-wide

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 13 September 2006 00:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The K10D Has Arrived! The problem with 4/3rds is that the crop is so extreme that using non-telephoto lenses via adaptors is an exercise in frustration. Canon offers you full-frame and a more

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: Bob W wrote: I won't use anything wider than 85mm (135 equiv) on 4/3. If I stick with it I will buy the appropriate lenses. Actually with the 4/3 crop factor that's more like an ~170mm on 35mm. I drafted the same answer then realised he meant that

The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Douglas Newman
Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0 Amazingly, it lives up to the rumors! (Possibly the first D-SLR I know of that has.) We now have four 10 MP SLRs for $999

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
You can choose PEF or DNGG according to the informations from Steve's Digicam :D 2006/9/12, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Adam Maas
digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0 Amazingly, it lives up to the rumors! (Possibly the first D-SLR I know of that has.) We now have four 10 MP SLRs for $999 with kit lens: Pentax K10D Nikon D80 Sony A100 Canon 400D

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
PROTECTED]: Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0 Amazingly, it lives up to the rumors! (Possibly the first D-SLR I know of that has.) We now have four

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Bob W
@pdml.net Subject: The K10D Has Arrived! Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0 Amazingly, it lives up to the rumors! (Possibly the first D-SLR I know

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Adam Maas
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Newman Sent: 12 September 2006 19:24 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: The K10D Has Arrived! Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
to the informations from Steve's Digicam :D 2006/9/12, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0 Amazingly, it lives up

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Aaron started it with his excitement about the 22-bit A/D processor, but for others there's an entire shopping list full of features that many have been hoping for. Individually they're not necessarily big deal, but collectively, in one package at what seems to be a very good price, is definitely

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And, of course, the smaller file size, allowing for more images on an SD card, perhaps faster writes to the card, and space savings on your computer hard disk without having to convert the in camera RAW files. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas No waiting for Adobe to update ACR,

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille wrote: Indeed. The question is: normal DNG or compressed DNG. 12 or 16bit? 4 possibilities :D Compressed 14-bit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Cory Papenfuss
For myself, Shake Reduction, the 22-bit processor, rear remote control, bigger/faster buffer, ability to shoot DNG, pentaprism finder, dust/water resistance, and backward and forward lens compatibility really make this a great package, and the price makes it affordable, and, therefore, even

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Toralf Lund
Bob W wrote: are they giving away free exclamation marks? I can't see where the killer feature is that everybody was on about. What is it? It is a misunderstanding of what a 22-bit A/D can do... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: Thibouille wrote: Indeed. The question is: normal DNG or compressed DNG. 12 or 16bit? 4 possibilities :D Compressed 14-bit. Oops. make that compressed 12-bit! (Sorry if I caused any medical problems there!) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Cory Papenfuss wrote: - If 1600 ISO is the highest it goes, I expect to see more noise at comparable sensitivity as the 6 Mp cameras. I expect noise at ISO 1600 to be excellent. I expect noise performance to be even better at sensitivities below ISO 100. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread pnstenquist
I wouldn't be suprised if noise at 1600 is at least as minimal as the current cameras, perhaps better. And with SR, an extra stop or more of low-light performance will be possible. I've never used 3200 on my D. I've always been able to get what I need at 1600 with a fast lens. I'm sure the 10D

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread mike wilson
Douglas Newman wrote: Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0 Looks like it has gone again. Link gives me a dead box on a black page. Someone at Steve's

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread John Forbes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Newman Sent: 12 September 2006 19:24 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: The K10D Has Arrived! Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests), but it appears the K10D has arrived

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: the wring system LOL The wringing-of-hands system ;- -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: So speaks somebody who has perhaps just bought into the wrong system. Yeah me too John. I bought into the wring system over three years ago ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
Oh, OK now I get it. Knew you couldn't have hit a wrong key. ;]] Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: the wring system LOL The wringing-of-hands system ;- -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Bob W
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: 12 September 2006 22:37 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The K10D Has Arrived! So speaks somebody who has perhaps just bought into the wrong system. John On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:36:13 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax lenses and gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of course, allows (and promotes) that their current cameras can use older lenses. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W However, I do also have over £20,000-worth

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Bob W
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived! I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax lenses and gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 12, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Bob W wrote: However, I do also have over £20,000-worth of film equipment (new prices - I'd probably get about 30p for it now), and I want to be able to use some of that on my digital equipment - does Pentax have anything that would let me do that? If your

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
slapping forehead I forgot about those adapters. I wonder if there are any Contax - Pentax adapters. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W There are Contax-Olympus adapters, and Contax-Canon adapters. The 4/3s system is quite good like that. Obviously it has its drawbacks (stop-down

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived! I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax lenses and gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of course

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Adam Maas
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived! I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax lenses and gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of course, allows (and promotes

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Adam Maas
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived! I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax lenses and gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of course, allows (and promotes

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread John Francis
is it? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Newman Sent: 12 September 2006 19:24 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: The K10D Has Arrived! Dear All, Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 7:54 PM, Paul Stenquist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you can adapt almost anything to a Canon due to the size of the mount. And a shorter mount register. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Unlikely. The Contax/Yashica bayonet mount is only .04 deeper register than the Pentax K-mount. G On Sep 12, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: slapping forehead I forgot about those adapters. I wonder if there are any Contax - Pentax adapters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: The K10D Has Arrived!

2006-09-12 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Really nice! I will definitely get one. It has everything I have been looking for (well, except full frame, but that's another story) and all my fantastic A* lenses will work nicely. I've been very close to jumping the ship many times but I am glad I waited (all these years, heh). Why I did I