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2018-08-25 Thread Ken Waller
. -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" Sent: Aug 24, 2018 1:41 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The death of film is... I used to like Kodachrome, only used it on special occasions, which probably contributed to it's demise, and I've used a number of film filters for Pho

Re: The death of film is...

2018-08-24 Thread John
On 8/22/2018 19:39, P. J. Alling wrote: Depending on how you look at it.  Just received this from B photo. Seems someone has decided to start making Poloriod OneSteps again. https://tinyurl.com/y9bzj756 Now if only Kodak's successor would bring back Kodachrome. They've brought back

Re: The death of film is...

2018-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: The death of film is... Depending on how you look at it. Just received this from B photo. Seems someone has decided to start making Poloriod OneSteps again. https://t

Re: The death of film is...

2018-08-22 Thread Ken Waller
Now if only Kodak's successor would bring back Kodachrome. Why? For the added cost? The wait for processing ? And other things I don't miss with film? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject:

Re: The death of film is...

2018-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, and mint green is only 5 times the original selling price, which with inflation is almost a bargain. On 8/22/2018 8:21 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Interesting...and the price is different depending on whether you bet black, white or mint green.  I might have one of the originals hanging

Re: The death of film is...

2018-08-22 Thread Paul Sorenson
Interesting...and the price is different depending on whether you bet black, white or mint green.  I might have one of the originals hanging around somewhere. :-) -p On 8/22/2018 6:39 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Depending on how you look at it.  Just received this from B photo. Seems someone

The death of film is...

2018-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Depending on how you look at it.  Just received this from B photo.   Seems someone has decided to start making Poloriod OneSteps again. https://tinyurl.com/y9bzj756 Now if only Kodak's successor would bring back Kodachrome. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was

Re: The death of film

2009-01-05 Thread David J Brooks
I have saved a roll or two and gave them to Erin. Why do I want these, she said. I said, when the Antique road show comes to town in 40-50 years, take the rolls to the show and see if they can figure out what they are.;-) She can also take my old bag cell phone. That should confuse the F^k out

The death of film

2009-01-04 Thread William Robb
Well, not all of it, but most of what was left of mine, anyway. Some years ago, we renovated our house, putting a second floor onto our bungalow. Part of this reno moved the deep freeze to the main floor, so we bought a smaller deep freeze and cleaned out the beheamoth in the basement, which

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-07 Thread brooksdj
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. I have been using Future Shop labs here in Toronto and the prints from my D2h and istD are very good. Just wondering what it looks like

Re: Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/05 Wed PM 05:00:56 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. On Oct 5, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Quite honestly, I have more trouble with digital print quality than

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Oct 2005 at 23:09, Tom C wrote: I take it this would not be the case were you to receive 'RAW' files vs. .jpg? Or is the processing totally geared towards .jpgs? This is one big reason why it would be great if DNG (or some similar scheme) was adopted as a de facto digital film by all

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote: The customer is responsible for the resolution being great enough, the white balance being correct, the image compression not being too great, and the exposure being close to correct. Quite honestly, I have more trouble with digital print quality than

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Film to print has a lot more variables controled by the lab. We can process the film well, or poorly. We can scratch the film, or otherwise mar the image in a great variety of ways. We can print it well, or poorly as well. Digital files are mostly finished

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Quite honestly, I have more trouble with digital print quality than with film print quality because of customer misintervention of the process. Yet another reason not to be bothered

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Quite honestly, I have more trouble with digital print quality than with film print quality because of customer misintervention of the process

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 5, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Quite honestly, I have more trouble with digital print quality than with film print quality because of customer misintervention of the process. Yet another reason not to be bothered with digital, while still possible. Lets not

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-05 Thread Mishka
people are lazy and ignorant... film at 11. mishka On 10/5/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a fine attitude for a snapshot consumer. I understand Bill's frustrations well ... I get the same attitude from the 'professionals' regards their (allegedly broken) computer

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread brooksdj
Bill. Doing some catch up here on pdml, but, what do the digital print fiqures look like. I have been using Future Shop labs here in Toronto and the prints from my D2h and istD are very good. Just wondering what it looks like at your end Dave It's

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Bill. Doing some catch up here on pdml, but, what do the digital print fiqures look like. I haven't done a hard breakdown, but it looks like digital printing is about 10% of my print

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread Tom C
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digital print quality has more to do with the customer than with the lab. Results vary based on the customer. Please explain. I think I have an idea... the digital file received may be of any resolution or size vs. a standard negative... Thank you.

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Digital print quality has more to do with the customer than with the lab. Results vary based on the customer. Please explain. I think I have an idea... the digital file received may be of any

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread Tom C
I take it this would not be the case were you to receive 'RAW' files vs. .jpg? Or is the processing totally geared towards .jpgs? Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Date

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote: Film to print has a lot more variables controled by the lab. We can process the film well, or poorly. We can scratch the film, or otherwise mar the image in a great variety of ways. We can print it well, or poorly as well. You are the Outer Limits buddy. Tom C.

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. I take it this would not be the case were you to receive 'RAW' files vs. .jpg? Or is the processing totally geared towards .jpgs? RAW files are something the photographer gets to deal

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-03 Thread Herb Chong
it's not just Kodak. Fuji's film business is declining within a couple of points of Kodak's rate. Herb - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread John Celio
It's like watching a good friend slowly succumb. I ran volume numbers yesterday for the past three summer seasons (July and Auguat). Without knowing our actual numbers, I guestimate we'd probably come up with very similar results. On the up side, however, we're printing a TON of digital

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread Toralf Lund
William Robb wrote: It's like watching a good friend slowly succumb. I ran volume numbers yesterday for the past three summer seasons (July and Auguat). The highest film processing volume my lab has done was 2003, and I still had access to those numbers as well as 2004/2005. I will treat

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Without knowing our actual numbers, I guestimate we'd probably come up with very similar results. On the up side, however, we're printing a TON of digital stuff. How are you guys doing

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Toralf Lund Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. It would be at least mildly interesting to have the numbers of the years leading up to 2003, too, though. What I mean to say is that if 2003 was a particularly good year for film processing

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread graywolf
. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Celio Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Without knowing our actual numbers, I guestimate we'd probably come up

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Well, the point I would like to make is that despite the influx of digital you are still doing more than 1/2 the film processing business you were doing before digital. Since today

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread Toralf Lund
It would be at least mildly interesting to have the numbers of the years leading up to 2003, too, though. What I mean to say is that if 2003 was a particularly good year for film processing, then obviously you might have expected the volume to drop a bit in 2004 and 2005 even without

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread Glen
At 02:18 AM 10/2/2005, John Celio wrote: Without knowing our actual numbers, I guestimate we'd probably come up with very similar results. On the up side, however, we're printing a TON of digital stuff. How are you guys doing in that arena? For what it's worth, I've been having at least as

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread graywolf
that 90% of the film processing in Boone is done by the local Wal-Mart. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. Well

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread graywolf
I do not think the profitability of a given facility has much to do with Kodaks decision to close it. Personally I think Kodak is being raided. Goodby Kodak. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Toralf Lund wrote: Yes, but

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. I do not think the profitability of a given facility has much to do with Kodaks decision to close it. Personally I think Kodak is being raided. Goodby Kodak. Kodak is seeing it's traditional

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Kodak has been taken over by MBA's they're doomed. graywolf wrote: I do not think the profitability of a given facility has much to do with Kodaks decision to close it. Personally I think Kodak is being raided. Goodby Kodak. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-01 Thread William Robb
It's like watching a good friend slowly succumb. I ran volume numbers yesterday for the past three summer seasons (July and Auguat). The highest film processing volume my lab has done was 2003, and I still had access to those numbers as well as 2004/2005. I will treat 2003 as my baseline.

Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-01 Thread Scott Loveless
This isn't surprising. I think most consumers just want to be able to take pictures with as little inconvenience as possible. Your numbers certainly suggest that to be the case. I'm guessing a significant chunk of your printing business is from digital files. My wife received almost 200 prints