I've never paid much attention to the time it takes to do the Raw
conversion. The topic has come up again in this thread.
After returning from a visit to the local zoo I thought I'd keep track
of the conversion process.
So, for my three year old Dell, here are the times for 164 Raw files
from
iView MediaPro will do the cataloging work for you easily. It's
available for Mac OS X and Windows systems. Not cheap, but good;
building your own database to do the work that iView does would take
a LOT of effort and time. I know, I've done it and discarded my
effort in favor of iView
For me RAW is Well Done.
I take all pics in RAW and select only a few of interest for correction
and conversion to jpg. Why converting all the not-so-interesting pics if
you can always look at these in PS?
Henk
On Apr 14, 2006, at 22:16, Cesar wrote:
Shel,
I have only shot a handful of RAW images in the years I have had my
*ist D.
I do not have the time, nor the software, to handle the conversion
of all my shots.
I'm with Cesar on this one. RAW may be technically superior, but
it's a
On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
I'm with Cesar on this one. RAW may be technically superior, but
it's a pain to organize and work with. I am just not fussy enough,
I guess.
I suppose if I were in the business of producing work for pay I
might have a different
Since starting to use the D last year I haven't taken one JPEG picture.
After
a week of shooting TIFF I changed over to RAW. This was after I read posts
about RSE on the group. Since then I've been processing the RAW images
with RSE and Photoshop CS. The camera spends most of the time on a
My mom doesnt shoot RAW, but her cam doesnt have the option.
--
home http://roman.blakout.net/
jtainter wrote:
Real men don't shoot jpeg.
Friends don't let friends shoot jpeg.
What else can we come up with?
If you really loved me, you'd take my picture in RAW.
Joe
You meet the nicest people in the RAW?
Film, the ultimate RAW format.
Actually, it would probably be more accurate to say Film, the *first*
RAW format. :)
Actually, I've heard it said that RAW more accurately represents
the latent image on the film. It doesn't become an image until it's
developed (whether chemically or via a
between good, fresh film and cheap, old film, but I'd still rather
shoot RAW mode and not need it than vice-versa because I've learned
that sometimes a casual shot becomes a money shot after it's too late
to change your mind.
Exactly. I shoot RAW exclusively for this reason. I've got my
That, I can answer. The D can be set with NR on or off. if NR is off
then the buffer holds 6 images (raw or jpg) and with it on it holds 5.
The D is not very speedy at writing out the images. It is supposed to
take advantage of Lexar's WA (Write Accelerated) technology. I think
about a 30X or
How do you extract the embedded JPEG's, Dave?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: David Savage
I shoot RAW only.
As part of my workflow I routinely extract the embedded .jpg when I
download the files from the card. These I use for reviewing images,
doing QD trial edits or emailing snaps to
: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot.
I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that
may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in some circumstances can
Mark Foerster
3. I bracket often, which fills up the buffer quickly - JPEGs seem to work
faster.
RAW is, among other things, the nicest form of bracket I'm aware of.
Dario (currently 50-50 between JPEG and RAW)
Hi Bruce ...
Thanks for your helpful response. I've never shot the DS with NR on - I
may try that to see if there is any change in the speed.
What strikes me is how outdated the D is in some regards, yet for an
anachronistic camera it seems to still do a good job for many people.
Yes, the DS
I don't know how Dave does it. I catalog the PEF/DNG files with iView
MediaPro, which has a feature to export the files in a catalog as
JPEG. What it's doing is extracting the JPEG preview files from RAW
files of any kind.
Godfrey
On Apr 14, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
How
There's some truth to that ... LOL
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Dario Bonazza
RAW is, among other things, the nicest form of bracket I'm aware of.
OK, I'm trying again:
Mark Foerster wrote:
3. I bracket often, which fills up the buffer quickly - JPEGs seem to work
faster.
RAW is, among other things, the nicest form of bracketing I'm aware of.
Dario (currently around 50-50 between JPEG and RAW)
What else can we come up with?
If you care enough, shoot RAW.
When you absolutely must produce an image, shoot RAW.
Kenneth Waller
How about
RAW, RAW, RAW, sis boom bah, Pentax, Pentax, yea!
Butch
On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Butch Black wrote:
How about
RAW, RAW, RAW, sis boom bah, Pentax, Pentax, yea!
No.
:-)
Shel,
I have only shot a handful of RAW images in the years I have had my *ist D.
I do not have the time, nor the software, to handle the conversion of
all my shots.
I shoot like I do my film. I let someone else do my processing. I
trust my lab. But regardless, I have been told that I am
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in some circumstances can be a better choice than shooting
Hi, I don't want to start a flame
war, or get
anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in some
me.
storage.
CW
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot.
I'm
just curious to know how many
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot.
I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that
may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all
I shoot in all modes.
RAW when I know there's a good chance for needing a nice print.
6*** for good, printable shots and when shooting needs to happen
more quickly.
4 and lower for web shots.
Collin
KC8TKA
: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:34:06 -0400
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental
But ~why~ don't you shoot raw?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Jim Apilado
I don't shoot RAW. People who look at my prints don't ask if I shot RAW or
JPEG. They will comment on the composition, color, etc.
On Apr 13, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
But ~why~ don't you shoot raw?
I don't often shoot RAW. The reason; large JPEGs work just as well.
The caveat is that you must be careful when shooting JPEG never to
overexpose and burn out the highlights, since you can't recover
Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13. april 2006 17:34
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Who's Not Shooting Raw
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in some circumstances can be a better
I'm still shooting raw film
HAR!
Norm
From: Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot.
I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that
may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages,
Hi!
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in some circumstances can be a better choice than
Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
RAW exclusivly, almost.
In the last six months there has been one exception. That was at a rock
festival where I was one of the official shooters. They wanted the pictures
ASAP. I regret not insisting on using RAW, lost some potential goodies
because of
return to jpeg capture.
This is from a slide shooter that pitched it if it wasn't right out of the
camera.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot
Only RAW format, with either Pentax DA or Sony R1. I stopped working
last summer when I developed my current image processing workflow,
which is efficient and practical for me.
Godfrey
On Apr 13, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get
I shoot only RAW. I've never shot jpeg with the Pentax digital, only with my
Canon Elph point and shoot. I find that the RAW workflow is quick and
efficient. And I can't imagine being without the control that the conversion
process enables. I also find that upsizing in the converter is superior
me.
film user, no choice.
Markus
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot.
I'm
just curious
- Original Message -
From: Markus Maurer
Subject: RE: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
me.
film user, no choice.
Film, the ultimate RAW format.
William Robb
: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:34:08 -0700
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages
I shoot RAW exclusively: I learned my lesson back when I was shooting
film. I once shot an event using some cheap, outdated film because I
intended to use the shots for an insignificant web project. Then, a
few weeks after the event, I was asked to write an article about and
provide photos for a
William Robb wrote:
Film, the ultimate RAW format.
Actually, it would probably be more accurate to say Film, the *first*
RAW format. :)
Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Film, the ultimate RAW format.
Actually, it would probably be more accurate to say Film, the *first*
RAW format. :)
Nah, that would be glass plate ;-)
-Adam
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 03:15:43PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
The extra latitude (in every sense of the word) afforded by shooting
RAW more than makes up for the slow buffer issues with the ist-D
Try shooting the Blue Angels with a D in RAW mode, and get back to us :-)
They don't come round
John, about how many exposures will fill the buffer in the D? How long
does it take to be able to make the next shot after the buffer is full?
How fast a CF card can the D take advantage of?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: John Francis
Try shooting the Blue Angels with a D in RAW mode,
4 RAW, 5-6 JPEG. It's about 8 seconds before you can take the next shot
(shooting RAW). The D can take advantage of 40x or so CF cards.
Or at least that's what I recall from shooting the D. The DS has a
larger buffer and faster write speeds.
-Adam
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
John, about how
John Francis wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 03:15:43PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
The extra latitude (in every sense of the word) afforded by shooting
RAW more than makes up for the slow buffer issues with the ist-D
Try shooting the Blue Angels with a D in RAW mode, and get back to us :-)
Shel,
I've shot 3-5 images in raw, 3,000 as high quality jpegs.
1) I didn't shoot any raw until I bought a copy of PS Elements 4.0
because I had no facility to read/convert the photos.
2) I have no desire to spend more time in front of the computer
screen editing photos. (I'm an old Kodachrome
Hello Shel,
That, I can answer. The D can be set with NR on or off. if NR is off
then the buffer holds 6 images (raw or jpg) and with it on it holds 5.
The D is not very speedy at writing out the images. It is supposed to
take advantage of Lexar's WA (Write Accelerated) technology. I think
On 4/13/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in
Real men don't shoot jpeg.
Friends don't let friends shoot jpeg.
What else can we come up with?
If you really loved me, you'd take my picture in RAW.
Joe
On 13/4/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that may
be. Please, no flames or judgemental comment. We all know raw has
advantages, and in
On 13/4/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
4) Cotty told me that if what I wanted was to have fun taking
pictures and not spend a lot of time post processing, it was OK to
shoot high quality jpegs and forget about raw.
!!
Yeah, I'll stand by that. Note the key words in the first
Frank says you shouldn't believe anything Cotty says.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bob Sullivan
4) Cotty told me that if what I wanted was to have fun taking
pictures and not spend a lot of time post processing, it was OK to
shoot high quality jpegs and forget about raw.
Do you mean discombobulated or have fun? Bob S.
On 4/13/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13/4/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
4) Cotty told me that if what I wanted was to have fun taking
pictures and not spend a lot of time post processing, it was OK to
shoot high
What else can we come up with?
If you care enough, shoot RAW.
When you absolutely must produce an image, shoot RAW.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Who's Not Shooting Raw?
Real men don't shoot jpeg.
Friends don't let friends
On 13 Apr 2006 at 18:50, jtainter wrote:
What else can we come up with?
If you shoot primes shoot RAW or be zoomed.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer
I shoot RAW only.
As part of my workflow I routinely extract the embedded .jpg when I
download the files from the card. These I use for reviewing images,
doing QD trial edits or emailing snaps to family friends.
Cheers,
Dave S.
On 4/13/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I
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