Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped And now that you know that it is a "domesticated" wolf. William Robb That kind of makes it dog then... Your canoe is in the mail. William Robb -- PDML Pent

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/21/2010 7:57 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped It definitely is for me given the rarity of wild wolves and the knowledge that dogs generally are domesticated and can be trained to repson

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/22/2010 1:29 PM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:15:10AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote: My flash suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and needs a smiley. You would need a really big flash to freeze the stars in the sky like that. ;-) Regards, Bob S. And synchronisation is a

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/22/2010 12:29 AM, David Mann wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:08 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Here in the States, the standard response seems to be buying a gun, barging into the exhibition and killing everyone in sight. I think the British way works better. What, a knife instead of a

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/21/2010 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the competition rules. Is it any more brillaint

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Ken Waller" You could spend weeks/months 'becomming familiar with the wolf's habits', >> assuming you first located the wolf (ves) >> >>> Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to >>> take a picture when the wolf broke the light beam, go have a beer and >>> co

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-22 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:15:10AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote: > My flash suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and needs a smiley. > You would need a really big flash to freeze the stars in the sky like that. > ;-) > Regards, Bob S. And synchronisation is a real problem. You need to set the flash off e

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light extends too far into the background, and it's too uniform. However, it could be a combination of two

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
My flash suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and needs a smiley. You would need a really big flash to freeze the stars in the sky like that. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:39 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:11 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > >> From: paul stenquist >>> O

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-22 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:11 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: paul stenquist >> On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star trails. :-) Regards, Bob S. >> I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The lig

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-22 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not much evidence. This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY It's not him that's wanking. That has to be

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-) Looks that way. But I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to figure it out anyway. ya think? a Mark Roberts wrote: Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pent

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread David Mann
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:08 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > Here in the States, the standard response seems to be buying a gun, barging > into the exhibition and killing everyone in sight. > > I think the British way works better. What, a knife instead of a gun? Dave (in my city the modus operandi seem

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped You could spend wee

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star trails. :-) Regards, Bob S. I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light extends too far into the background, and it's too uniform. H

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts ann sanfedele wrote: >Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-) Looks that way. But I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to figure it out anyway. >Mark Roberts wrote: > >>Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax >>forum a few weeks back re

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star trails. :-) > Regards, Bob S. > I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light extends too far into the background, and it's too uniform. However, it could b

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star trails. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax > forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo Gallery. Two photos > from t

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped It definitely is for me given the rarity of wild wolves and the knowledge that dogs generally are domesticated and can be trained to repsond to their masters wishes. And now tha

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped You could spend weeks/months 'becomming familiar with the wolf's habits', assuming you first located the wolf (ves) Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped I've only said it once. I said it because in other posts in this thread other people have pointed out that a shot should not get extra merit for being difficult to take. In one of your

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bill Sawyer
January 21, 2010 6:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > - Original Mes

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote: >Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-) Looks that way. But I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to figure it out anyway. >Mark Roberts wrote: > >>Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax >>forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo G

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-) ann Mark Roberts wrote: Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo Gallery. Two photos from the same photographer: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTIST&subSe

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:40:48 -0500 Mark Roberts wrote: > >Is it any more brillaint than this? > >http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg > > That *is* brilliant! They should have Photoshopped in a trractor beam > from a UFO in the upper left-hand corner... broken hover-dog goes wrr

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo Gallery. Two photos from the same photographer: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTIST&subSection=2245441&subSubSection=3826178&language=EN EXIF says the exposure tim

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:52 PM, wendy beard wrote: > > I managed to capture a wolf attack ;-) > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/93652625 > > He likes to play football too > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/121289483 > > and frisbee > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/106555213 Th

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped Is it any more brill

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "wendy beard" I managed to capture a wolf attack ;-) http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/93652625 He likes to play football too http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/121289483 and frisbee http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/106555213 -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada Wow, We

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Jack Davis
Good crisp shots, Wendy! Timing, flawless. Jack --- On Thu, 1/21/10, wendy beard wrote: > From: wendy beard > Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:52 PM > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 a

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped On Thu, Jan

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Waller
The timing of his disqualification makes me think the judges missed it and it was pointed out to them or the organization after the fact. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped You

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/1/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >We're all wankers. Some more than others. I'll buy that ! Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:22 -0500, "Christian" wrote: > The issue I have with this photographer is that he used a > trained, captive animal (if the allegations are true; and he is not > denying them in all accounts I've read he is 'unavailable for comment'). According to the press release issu

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele
wendy beard wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the competition rules.

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:29 -0600, "William Robb" wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob W" > Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > > > > I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the >

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > >> >As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of > >> captive animals > >> >are allowed in the competition he could have won a prize > >> anyway if he'd > >> >been open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't. > >> > >> I thought captive animals were prohibited? That's how I r

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> >> > >> I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't > comply with > >> the competition rules. > >> > > > > Is it any more brillaint than this? > > http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg > > > > William Robb > > > > I managed to capture a wolf attack ;-) > http://www.pb

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread wendy beard
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Bob W" > Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > > >> >> I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the >> competiti

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:22:29 -, you wrote: >As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of captive animals are >allowed in the competition he could have won a prize anyway if he'd been >open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't. I thought captive animals

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:42:32 -, you wrote: >> >As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of >> captive animals >> >are allowed in the competition he could have won a prize >> anyway if he'd >> >been open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't. >> >> I thought captive anim

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts The evidence at http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations seems pretty convincing that the location of the shot was the Ca?ada Real Center zoological park near Madrid. The stone wall could easily hav

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> >As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of > captive animals > >are allowed in the competition he could have won a prize > anyway if he'd > >been open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't. > > I thought captive animals were prohibited? That's how I read > the rules. (I

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > > > The difficulty or ease of taking the photo is not what they > judge things > > on > > in that competition. > > > > You keep saying this. > I haven't seen a competition yet that judges the photos based on some > Hurculean effort on the part of the photographer, so I'm not > really certai

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> >> Is it any more brillaint than this? > >> http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg > >> > >> William Robb > > > > Yes. > > > > But that's still a great photo. > > > > Would it be any more brillaint than any other picture of a > dog going over a > jump, perhaps at an agility trial?

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:22:29 -, you wrote: >As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of captive animals are >allowed in the competition he could have won a prize anyway if he'd been >open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't. I thought captive animals were prohibited? That

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > > Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. > First the pick > > > a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not > much evidence. > > > > > > > This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers': > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY > > It's not him that's wanking

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> The evidence at > http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge > -admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations > seems pretty convincing that the location of the shot was the > Cañada Real Center zoological park near Madrid. The stone > wall could easily have been

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped Is it any more brillaint than this? http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg William Robb Yes. But that's still a great photo. Would it be any more brillaint than an

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped The difficulty or ease of taking the photo is not what they judge things on in that competition. You keep saying this. I haven't seen a competition yet that judges the photo

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > > > I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't > comply with the > > competition rules. > > > > Is it any more brillaint than this? > http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg > > William Robb Yes. But that's still a great photo. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > Sadly, it isn't one of mine. > It is a terrific photo though. > I hate to pooh pooh the wolf photo, but if the guy really had become > familiar with said wolf's habits, it really would have been a > fairly simple > shot to take: > Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR >

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > > The story the photographer gave, as I recall from when I > first saw the > > photo, is that this was routine behaviour of the wolf which he had > > witnessed many times. Accordingly he set up specially for it. He > > didn't just happen to be walking by with all his gear and > suddenly s

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped The time I went I found the children's winners included a suprising number of 6-year-olds shooting with a Nikon F5 and 600mm f/4.0. Well, to be fair, the kid probably pus

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
The evidence at http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations seems pretty convincing that the location of the shot was the Cañada Real Center zoological park near Madrid. The stone wall could easily have been modified but I

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Roberts
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:29:15 -0600, you wrote: >From: "Bob W" >> >> I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the >> competition rules. > >Is it any more brillaint than this? >http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg That *is* brilliant! They should have Photo

Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread eactivist
In a message dated 1/20/2010 6:12:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: So why didn't they give the prize to the runner up? ann == That puzzled me too. Marnie aka Doe - We can't solve problems by using the s

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread eactivist
In a message dated 1/20/2010 9:26:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kwal...@peoplepc.com writes: Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf in the wild ? I do. If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fan

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Rob Studdert wrote: On 21/01/2010, Ken Waller wrote: Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf in the wild ? I do. If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and y

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped And that's his account of how he did it. Some "experts" have suggested that a wild wolf, skulking around, would not have jumped the fence but would have climbed thro

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread David Savage
2010/1/21 William Robb : > > - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: >> >>> Is it any more brillaint than this? >>&

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Christian
John Sessoms wrote: From: "Ken Waller" Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf in the wild ? I do. If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you were set up to ca

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: "William Robb" I hate to pooh pooh the wolf photo, but if the guy really had become familiar with said wolf's habits, it really would have been a fairly simple shot to take: Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to take a picture when the wolf broke the light b

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: I hate to pooh pooh the wolf photo, but if the guy really had become familiar with said wolf's habits, it really would have been a fairly simple shot to take: Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to take a picture when the wolf broke the light

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote: The story the photographer gave, as I recall from when I first saw the photo, is that this was routine behaviour of the wolf which he had witnessed many times. Accordingly he set up specially for it. He didn't just happen to be walking by with all his gear and suddenly see a wolf ju

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" > > Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First > the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on > not much evidence. > This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY Yeah ... like that's NOT staged! --

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped I think the British way works better. We might civilize you lot yet. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_p

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped Love the tongue. Did you borrow a camera for this. Pentax would never focus fast enough. Not one of my shots, but you are right, Pentax wouldn't have AF'd fast enough

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to > even see a wolf > in the wild ? I do. > If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be > fantastic. To be there > when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle > and you were set > up to capture it

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Love the tongue. Did you borrow a camera for this. Pentax would never focus fast enough. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:29 AM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Bob W" > Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > > >

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: Is it any more brillaint than this? http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg While I know how difficult that

RE: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Brian Walters" You can see low res versions of all of the images here: http://www.nhmshop.co.uk/veolia-environnement-wildlife-photographer-of-the-year-2009/category.html That is a really crappy interface. You'd think a museum would want to make it easy to look at the photos. -- PDML

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Ken Waller" Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf in the wild ? I do. If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you were set up to capture it would truly

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: > > > > > Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First > > the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on > > not much evidence. > > > > This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers': > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY It's not him th

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: > Is it any more brillaint than this? > http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg While I know how difficult that wolf photo would have been to take (even if it was staged) it doesn't have ~near~ the excitement and dynamism of yours.

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the competition rules. Is it any more brillaint than this? http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jp

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread David Savage
2010/1/21 Bob W : > >> >> Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me.  First >> the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on >> not much evidence. >> > > This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers': > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY We're all wankers. Some more

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First > the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on > not much evidence. > This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > You know, the problem I have with it isn't that they decided > it was staged; it's that they didn't decide that until AFTER > they had already awarded it the first prize. > > Every reason cited for rejecting it after the fact should > have been apparent before it won. > > Ok, so he (maybe

RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-21 Thread Bob W
> > Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to > even see a wolf > in the wild ? I do. > If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be > fantastic. To be there > when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle > and you were set > up to capture it would trul

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21/01/2010, Ken Waller wrote: > Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf > in the wild ? I do. > If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there > when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you were set > up to c

RE: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Brian Walters
.@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:11 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm > >

Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped Bob W wrote: Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm Well, it's a stun

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I agree but it is THEIR contest. Honestly? I don't think it's tha

RE: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Bill Sawyer
3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, pl

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I agree but it is THEIR contest. Honestly? I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah, I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty amazing, but that isn't enough to make

Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm Well, it's a stunning photograph even so. What a pity that he appears to have cheated. Bob "Wildlife photographer Mark Carwardine was one of the competition judges. He told BBC News

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped This doesn't look good on anybody involved. It's not even a very good Malinois. (Sorry Wendy, It's an old joke) William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mai

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I agree but it is THEIR contest. Honestly? I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah, I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty amazing, but that isn't enough to make it a good photo. It's no

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped From: Christian Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science

Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Ken Waller
rea," and prohibits digital alterations that "add any elements or objects that do not exist in the original scene." Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message ----- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped S

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Stripped of the award he won, that is: > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm Oops, sorry posted before I saw this :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christian Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm > While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the Australian Museum. Next to this photo was a news article about the controver

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:28 -0500, "Christian" wrote: > Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm > > > > While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the > Australian Museum. Next to t

Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Christian
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the Australian Museum. Next to this photo was a news article about the controversy and questions about wh

RE: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Bob W
> Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm > Well, it's a stunning photograph even so. What a pity that he appears to have cheated. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UN

OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped

2010-01-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.