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2004-12-03 Thread Peter J. Alling
The point is there is no crazy weird fisheye effect why used on these cameras. Amita Guha wrote: What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: enabled twice over

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-03 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'm not saying it's unacceptable, I'm just saying it's not a big deal. When using them with a smaller than full frame sensor you have a beast that's neither fish nor foul. My biggest objection is that it makes a very expensive special purpose lens into the equivalent of a cheap badly

RE: enabled twice over!

2004-12-03 Thread Amita Guha
Peter J. Alling wrote: My biggest objection is that it makes a very expensive special purpose lens into the equivalent of a cheap badly designed lens. I suppose it's just a matter of personal taste, although I did mention that I'm planning on using it on film bodies as well. And speaking of

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-03 Thread Mishka
Amita, The pictures are just fantastic. Now, there're people who tolerate barrel (fisheye) distortion and those who don't. If you are OK with it -- just enjoy it. My wife actually preffers the look of fisheye to 15mm rectilinear lense. So do I. This is just a matter of taste. Check out some of

RE: enabled twice over!

2004-12-02 Thread Amita Guha
What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: enabled twice over! The large majority of photos in the sample were shot with digital cameras that produce

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2004-12-02 Thread Don Sanderson
carefully the shot looks like a very WA shot with little fisheye effect. On a 35mm this would not be the case. Don -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: enabled twice over

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2004-12-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, the observations are obvious, and the impression I get (at least from Peter's post) is that somehow this is unacceptable, or not a good use for the lens, or that another lens might be better suited to the photos. I only saw four or five pics, and while I do think some may have been better

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-02 Thread Tim Sherburne
It depends on your goal, but all-in-all you'll find that the cropped center of an FE can't compete with a good rectilinear lens. Looking through the gallery on Pbase, the digital shots are mildly distorted, enough to suggest a bad lens rather than a fish-eye effect. In my initial query to Amita

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-02 Thread Mark Stringer
would the fisheye be as extreme as on film?- Original Message - From: Tim Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:26 AM Subject: Re: enabled twice over! It depends on your goal, but all-in-all you'll find

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2004-12-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Dec 2004 at 11:50, Mark Stringer wrote: I asked about using an A-16mm and Peter Ailing wrote and I tended to agree: I have no experience with this lens on the *ist-d but the 17mm fisheye shows enough distortion to look like a 24mm lens with extremely bad barrel distortion. It's

RE: enabled twice over!

2004-12-02 Thread Amita Guha
-Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I only saw four or five pics, and while I do think some may have been better suited to a rectilinear lens, clearly Amita was experimenting a bit (674 pics seems to indicate that), No no no, those photos

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2004-12-01 Thread Amita Guha
My new FA 50mm f/1.4 arrived in the mail yesterday. Woohoo! I took it for a spin around Rockefeller Center today for some test shots. So far, I'm very pleased. Also, last night, while surfing, I discovered the existence of the Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye. After reading reviews and seeing a bunch of

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-01 Thread Mishka
Pentax A 16/2.8 usually goes for similar $: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4688item=3855394220rd=1 mine was from KEH LN-, for something pretty close to that too (a while ago). I hope you enjoy the really wide angle -- I know I do, and the distortion very rarely bothers me.

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2004-12-01 Thread Don Sanderson
PROTECTED] Subject: enabled twice over! My new FA 50mm f/1.4 arrived in the mail yesterday. Woohoo! I took it for a spin around Rockefeller Center today for some test shots. So far, I'm very pleased. Also, last night, while surfing, I discovered the existence of the Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye

RE: enabled twice over!

2004-12-01 Thread Amita Guha
Pentax A 16/2.8 usually goes for similar $: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4688it em=3855394220rd=1 mine was from KEH LN-, for something pretty close to that too (a while ago). Looks like it's in great condition, too. I hope you enjoy the really wide angle -- I

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-01 Thread Tim Sherburne
Amita... What's the link to those pics? I just received the Zenitar and would also like to look at some other uses for the fisheye beyond the crazy/weird effect. Tim On 12/1/04 20:10, Amita Guha wrote: Oh, I love the distortion, and I've been wanting a fisheye for a while. The photos I saw

RE: enabled twice over!

2004-12-01 Thread Amita Guha
Here you go! http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :) -Original Message- From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:20 PM To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Re: enabled twice over! Amita

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2004-12-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm truly glad I don't live near a place like B+H. I'd be living in a cardboard box under a bridge and eating rocks I'd be mining the rocks :-( Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: enabled twice over!

2004-12-01 Thread Peter J. Alling
fisheye. Amita Guha wrote: Here you go! http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :) -Original Message- From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:20 PM To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Re: enabled twice over