It's mirrorless, pocketable mounts FF lenses
Far too expensive at $ 250 + Shipping. One can buy a very good PS or a pre-owned DSLR at this price for a real photographic experience. iPhone owners will be better off using their iPhone cameras as it is, This is best a money making gimmick. Bipin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8II APO Lens Experiences
Hi Pete, On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:49:42 +1100 Pete McIntosh wrote: Is there anyone on the list with experience using this lens? Hmm, some room for interpretation here, do you mean this one: Sigma 70-200 mm f/2.8 II EX APO DG Macro HSM If so, no I have no experience with that one :-) However, I do have a slightly older version, which did not have HSM, and is not optimized for digital. It was one of my favorite lenses on film (MZ-S), together with the matching EX converters. If so, what say you? IQ was quite good, and so was build quality. I tend to use it less now, prefer the DA 50-135 for the shorter end, and the Bigma (with OS and HSM) for the long end. That said, I think the DG version of the lens should be at least as good as mine was, I think the only disadvantage is that it will not take the EX tele converters (AFAIK). I'm on the prowl for something in this range, and from what I've seen so far this comes across as reasonable value. But real-life feedback would be most appreciated. Well, my experience is probably too dated, but positive :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
For those who might be interested, here's a little progress report with first impressions of the Fuji X10. After opening the box - wow. Quality feel to it. Smth. Very black, very small. Size and weight reminds me of Leica CL, but resemblance ends there. It looks just like a flippin film camera of days gone by but in fact full of gizmotech. No strap going on this - no need. It fits in my pockets! First things first - the viewfinder is essential for me, so does it work? Emphatic yes! Phew - it passes the biggest hurdle. Not as nice as the X100 or any Leica, or even the Epson R-D1, but yes, I can easily see through it and it's actually not bad at all. Later I test the 'WYSIWYG' by looking through and comparing a shot. 85% coverage seems accurate. The pics are slightly wider than as seen. Easy to compensate for and actually better that way round - more room for error on the edges. Feel and ease of use - menus are quirky and not the easiest to figger out but I get there and still haven't looked at the manual. Settings stay locked to each operation mode and not global (P, A ,S, M) so if I set M (Manual) for 200 ISO and whatever else, when I switch back to P (Program) it goes back to the settings I used previously for that, say 800 Auto ISO and whatever else I set previously. Means I can set up M for things like landscapes and leave P for parties and grabs, S for high shutter speed shit and A for arty street shooting ;-) Whatever. Things I was interested to see that people had mentioned: Specular highlights - shit a brick! What's all the fuss about?? I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if I hadn't read the doom and gloom! Tried a few shots with highlights in and a complete waste of time bothering about it! I didn't buy the camera to pixel peep with - I bought it because it has a way better optical viewfinder than the Canon G12. What a relief. And Fooj are working on a fix so wtf. Parallax error - easy - close ups, just use the rear LCD. Everything else - non event. Finder is very good. For critical focus applications use rear LCD. End of. Mechanical operation - so far everything works, camera switches on and off as designed - very fast power up - in 'normal' - from switching on to 'alive' just over 1 second. In 'quick start' mode - almost instantaneous - my guess would be 2/10ths of a second. The rotating lens barrel for switch on is interesting and geared for shooting from cold. Nice. Shooting with it - fantastic. I preferred the articulated screen (and hence being able to fold away so can't bee seen) of the G12 or even the Epson R-D1 but hey. The rear LCD is visible from any angle - amazed at that. On the whole I tend not to use the rear LCD of any camera for composing - hence why I wanted a usable optical viewfinder. I would have liked Bob's X100 but for the restriction on the lens. The zoom range on the X10 isn't stellar but it suits my needs. The low light night shots are fantastic. Very impressed. To sum up - as Steve (Of The Gardens) said - it's been a long time since I've been this happy with a camera! Pics in due course. That is all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release FF DSLR and APS-C MILC in 2012
From: Mark C On 12/20/2011 9:03 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Mark. You're rushing Pentax. They have to announce a K-3 first, a year later the Canikon killer, the K-1. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com After the K1 - what then? Dzs? LXD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8II APO Lens Experiences
Jan van Wijk wrote: Hmm, some room for interpretation here, do you mean this one: Sigma 70-200 mm f/2.8 II EX APO DG Macro HSM If so, no I have no experience with that one :-) However, I do have a slightly older version, which did not have HSM, and is not optimized for digital. Same here. It was one of my favorite lenses on film (MZ-S), together with the matching EX converters. If so, what say you? IQ was quite good, and so was build quality. I tend to use it less now, prefer the DA 50-135 for the shorter end, and the Bigma (with OS and HSM) for the long end. Except for the Bigma (which I don't own), I agree with Jan and I'd go a little further. That Sigma is an excellent lens. Some years ago I compared it to the Pentax FA* 2.8/80-200 and it was not so far from it. About resolution and sharpness, the Pentax was a little better at center ad a little softer at edges. All in all, quite a tie. The real pluses of the Pentax were an overall better brilliance of the image (color balance and such) and, most visible , a much better control of flare and ghost. The problem with some Sigma lenses (at least those I had the occasion to own) is you cannot really get accurate AF: Should you tune for say 70mm, you have a visible error at 200, and vice-versa. The same happens (even more critically) with the latest Sigma DC 17-70mm OS, which I sold quickly for that reason. Back to the Sigma 70-200mm AF issue, I then decided to set perfect focus around 150mm, so that I get fine results 100 to 200mm, while forgetting to use that lens around 70-80mm. After all, I own other lenses covering such focal lengths. So now I choose which one to take with me between DA* 50-135mm and the Sigma 70-200mm. Nine out of ten, the Pentax suits me better for the combination of focal length, size and noiseless operation (needed at performances I shot). At outdoor concerts, I take the Sigma with me. I'd love a DA/FA* 2.8/70-200mm! No, the DA* 4/60-250mm is not such a lens, as I miss that extra stop. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8II APO Lens Experiences
Dario Bonazza wrote: I'd love a DA/FA* 2.8/70-200mm! Actually, my true dream lenses would be a 18-90mm f/2 and a 100-200mm f/2, in order to shoot the K-5 at 3200-4000 ISO instead of 6400-8000. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Illumination
Hey that's a nice card for this season, Adam.. Going through archives that are months/years old can often unearth things worth saving more than some closer to the time you took the shots, when the experience of taking them sometimes interfers. ann On 12/20/2011 21:05, Adam Montoya wrote: I took this photo this in May shortly after getting my K5. I noticed it in my archives when yesterday when i was going through deleting bad photos to save space on my drive. (blurry shots, test photos and the like). I don't know why i didn't upload it sooner. http://www.mountainfort.com/Photography/Uncategorized-2011/15501220_QXzjLX#1639723295_CLfLVxF-A-LB Handheld, 3200 iso. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lighting Candles
Rick, that's a splendid photo! my compliments to your hip. Really, pretty sure that's my favorite of all those I've seen of yours this year - hope you give it to Mark for THE BOOK :-) ann On 12/20/2011 21:47, Rick Womer wrote: I took this inside the Basilica San Marco in Venice. There are No Photography signs posted, and watchful vergers are quick to scold people with SLRs, but ignore hordes with cell phones, even when they use flash. So I shot from the hip and they left me alone. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826600 (K-7, DA 16-45) I crave comments. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release FF DSLR and APS-C MILC in 2012
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: After the K1 - what then? Dzs? If you were to follow the logic of the LX being named for the Pentax 60th anniversary in 1980, that would make 2012 the 92nd year of Pentax. Flagship model for 2012 should then logically be: XCII If you wished to mix your Roman and Arabic you could theoretically use the XC designation until 2020: XC2 (but that begs the question where is the XC1?) 2013: XCIII 2014: XCIV 2015: XCV Sorta looks like Volvo model numbers. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright question.
On Dec 20, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: As far as I know if you own the original it's yours to do with as you will. The original owner owner can no longer claim copyright, as a practical matter. Paul Ewins wrote: Unfortunately no. You own the slides, but the copyright still belongs to whoever shot it (or their heirs). Practically speaking, however, the chances of you (actually your friend) facing a copyright action would be so small that most people wouldn't be worried. Thanks for the replies. I thought that as the contents had gone to such a sale, either there were no heirs to pass rights on to, or the heirs thought them worthless and passed them on with the other stuff for sale. As such, I suppose there would be little chance of anyone complaining. However, I'm not going to use it; having asked the question I feel a little uncomfortable in using it, regardless of entitlement to do so. I have a fairly similar selection of pictures which I took and one can be made from them, if so wished. There's also the possibility that whoever took them, would like them back, and would have no idea that they even exist without you posting them someplace that someone could see. There are whole websites of found photographs with, so far as I know, no complaints. There were two worth keeping, which I have done, the others have been binned. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lighting Candles
Thanks very much, Ann! Book nomination noted. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:33 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Lighting Candles Rick, that's a splendid photo! my compliments to your hip. Really, pretty sure that's my favorite of all those I've seen of yours this year - hope you give it to Mark for THE BOOK :-) ann On 12/20/2011 21:47, Rick Womer wrote: I took this inside the Basilica San Marco in Venice. There are No Photography signs posted, and watchful vergers are quick to scold people with SLRs, but ignore hordes with cell phones, even when they use flash. So I shot from the hip and they left me alone. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826600 (K-7, DA 16-45) I crave comments. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
On 12/20/2011 5:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend found an amusing easter egg on google maps http://g.co/maps/gtqkf -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I just asked it to give me directions, I'm pretty sure that you can't call it an Easter Egg if it gives you actual usable directions between two physical locations that actually exist. Unless you got different directions than I got in which case you'll have to post a screen shot. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak-offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release FF DSLR and APS-C MILC in 2012
Since LX was the Roman Numeral for 60, (The anniversary of Asahi's founding IIRC), then LXD would be the Pentax 440 if I interpret the positional notation of Roman Numerals correctly. On 12/21/2011 9:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark C On 12/20/2011 9:03 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Mark. You're rushing Pentax. They have to announce a K-3 first, a year later the Canikon killer, the K-1. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com After the K1 - what then? Dzs? LXD -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lighting Candles
On Dec 20, 2011, at 20:47, Rick Womer wrote: I took this inside the Basilica San Marco in Venice. There are No Photography signs posted, and watchful vergers are quick to scold people with SLRs, but ignore hordes with cell phones, even when they use flash. So I shot from the hip and they left me alone. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826600 (K-7, DA 16-45) I crave comments. CRAVE? Yow. I like all of the different areas in this image. Yes, there is candle-lighting. But also the mosaic on the floor and all of the different areas of the ceiling. It's kinda fun to look through. Very good capture of what it was like to be standing there at the time and it puts me well into the place. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Illumination
It definitely has a star of Bethlehem look to it. Where did you take it? On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Hey that's a nice card for this season, Adam.. Going through archives that are months/years old can often unearth things worth saving more than some closer to the time you took the shots, when the experience of taking them sometimes interfers. ann On 12/20/2011 21:05, Adam Montoya wrote: I took this photo this in May shortly after getting my K5. I noticed it in my archives when yesterday when i was going through deleting bad photos to save space on my drive. (blurry shots, test photos and the like). I don't know why i didn't upload it sooner. http://www.mountainfort.com/Photography/Uncategorized-2011/15501220_QXzjLX#1639723295_CLfLVxF-A-LB Handheld, 3200 iso. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
Concerning modes: I have taken to setting the resolution to fine (12 MP) and the internal EXR setting to either High ISO/Low noise or improved DR. I then leave it on P (or A) most of the time for full resolution and flick to EXR for bad lighting, which changes to the 6 MP pixel-binning mode. It's a quick way to do business. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: For those who might be interested, here's a little progress report with first impressions of the Fuji X10. After opening the box - wow. Quality feel to it. Smth. Very black, very small. Size and weight reminds me of Leica CL, but resemblance ends there. It looks just like a flippin film camera of days gone by but in fact full of gizmotech. No strap going on this - no need. It fits in my pockets! First things first - the viewfinder is essential for me, so does it work? Emphatic yes! Phew - it passes the biggest hurdle. Not as nice as the X100 or any Leica, or even the Epson R-D1, but yes, I can easily see through it and it's actually not bad at all. Later I test the 'WYSIWYG' by looking through and comparing a shot. 85% coverage seems accurate. The pics are slightly wider than as seen. Easy to compensate for and actually better that way round - more room for error on the edges. Feel and ease of use - menus are quirky and not the easiest to figger out but I get there and still haven't looked at the manual. Settings stay locked to each operation mode and not global (P, A ,S, M) so if I set M (Manual) for 200 ISO and whatever else, when I switch back to P (Program) it goes back to the settings I used previously for that, say 800 Auto ISO and whatever else I set previously. Means I can set up M for things like landscapes and leave P for parties and grabs, S for high shutter speed shit and A for arty street shooting ;-) Whatever. Things I was interested to see that people had mentioned: Specular highlights - shit a brick! What's all the fuss about?? I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if I hadn't read the doom and gloom! Tried a few shots with highlights in and a complete waste of time bothering about it! I didn't buy the camera to pixel peep with - I bought it because it has a way better optical viewfinder than the Canon G12. What a relief. And Fooj are working on a fix so wtf. Parallax error - easy - close ups, just use the rear LCD. Everything else - non event. Finder is very good. For critical focus applications use rear LCD. End of. Mechanical operation - so far everything works, camera switches on and off as designed - very fast power up - in 'normal' - from switching on to 'alive' just over 1 second. In 'quick start' mode - almost instantaneous - my guess would be 2/10ths of a second. The rotating lens barrel for switch on is interesting and geared for shooting from cold. Nice. Shooting with it - fantastic. I preferred the articulated screen (and hence being able to fold away so can't bee seen) of the G12 or even the Epson R-D1 but hey. The rear LCD is visible from any angle - amazed at that. On the whole I tend not to use the rear LCD of any camera for composing - hence why I wanted a usable optical viewfinder. I would have liked Bob's X100 but for the restriction on the lens. The zoom range on the X10 isn't stellar but it suits my needs. The low light night shots are fantastic. Very impressed. To sum up - as Steve (Of The Gardens) said - it's been a long time since I've been this happy with a camera! Pics in due course. That is all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
On 21 December 2011 16:22, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 5:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend found an amusing easter egg on google maps http://g.co/maps/gtqkf -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I just asked it to give me directions, I'm pretty sure that you can't call it an Easter Egg if it gives you actual usable directions between two physical locations that actually exist. Unless you got different directions than I got in which case you'll have to post a screen shot. Look just above the directions. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
On 12/21/2011 12:11 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 21 December 2011 16:22, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 5:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend found an amusing easter egg on google maps http://g.co/maps/gtqkf -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I just asked it to give me directions, I'm pretty sure that you can't call it an Easter Egg if it gives you actual usable directions between two physical locations that actually exist. Unless you got different directions than I got in which case you'll have to post a screen shot. Look just above the directions. Well it certainly is in Beta, the first set of directions took me from the Shire in London to a 4 star Bar, the second time I asked for directions, it decided I wanted to go from The Shire house in Chicago, to a theater at Roosevelt University. Neither of those places resembles Mordor, I doubt they have four star restaurants. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seek and ye shall find Takumars
On Dec 20, 2011, at 18:52, Paul Stenquist wrote: I don't have a hood, but you may want to hold the lens up to a white light to see if there's a yellow cast to the elements. The 35/2 Tak is one of the lenses that may have been built with the radioactive elements . If so, it would be subject to yellowing. No problem shooting digital. It's only a drawback when shooting film. (I have a yellowed 35/2, hence my knowledge of this.) Have you not tried the subject this lens to UV light for quite some time cure for this? Just needs a bit (ok, some days) of sunlight. Or so I have read. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release FF DSLR and APS-C MILC in 2012
This seems especially silly. Using a mirrorless camera with current lens design accomplishes two things, neither of which is particularly good. 1.) The camera loses phase detection auto focus, which is still superior to contrast detection, and 2.) The same flange to sensor distance is maintained, which makes a large empty space in the camera adding to it's bulk. You lose one of the major improvements, a compact body. The only way this is worthwhile is if you assume an electronic view finder is superior to an optical viewfinder, at the same cost. Currently that's not true there are trade offs for each approach. Maybe the EVF is the future, but rushing the future compromises the now. On 12/21/2011 4:05 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Dec 20, 2011, at 19:23 , Mark C wrote: On 12/20/2011 9:03 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Mark. You're rushing Pentax. They have to announce a K-3 first, a year later the Canikon killer, the K-1. :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com After the K1 - what then? Dzs? I vote for DLX (Deluxe), as they move into the mirrorless camera that will use the current lens design, using a FF sized sensor capable of 36 MB (32 actual), it's center section built so it supports APS-C lenses at the same resolution as the FF that surrounds it. Including HD EVF and full tethering support. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus... http://tinyurl.com/ndmfhb -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Difference of Scale
I liked the first one a lot better. On 12/20/2011 5:50 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Two pix, actually, taken several minutes apart. I like the gondolier in the first, but the second is more dramatic. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826608size=lg and http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826609size=lg (K-7, DA 16-45) I crave comments and criticism. Rick -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Winter is here
Nice photos. You must have a really good camera! On 12/20/2011 7:26 AM, AlunFoto wrote: As if I didn't notice about a moth ago... :-) A few shots from last week-end, around a half-frozen river in Telemark. Will have to do for a holiday greeting to the Most Venerable List as well. Hope you get peaceful days with plenty of photo ops. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/12/last-weekend-i-went-to-nissedal-in.html From the Frostpit, Jostein -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On 21/12/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: Concerning modes: I have taken to setting the resolution to fine (12 MP) and the internal EXR setting to either High ISO/Low noise or improved DR. I then leave it on P (or A) most of the time for full resolution and flick to EXR for bad lighting, which changes to the 6 MP pixel-binning mode. It's a quick way to do business. Cl. Nice tip, thanks! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
This is such a great report, I went to the Fuji web site to give a closer look-see to the camera and then to B H to the check price. If I find myself in the market for such a camera, I shall certainly consider your report, Cotty. Thanks much! Cheers, Christine On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Cotty wrote: For those who might be interested, here's a little progress report with first impressions of the Fuji X10. After opening the box - wow. Quality feel to it. Smth. Very black, very small. Size and weight reminds me of Leica CL, but resemblance ends there. It looks just like a flippin film camera of days gone by but in fact full of gizmotech. No strap going on this - no need. It fits in my pockets! First things first - the viewfinder is essential for me, so does it work? Emphatic yes! Phew - it passes the biggest hurdle. Not as nice as the X100 or any Leica, or even the Epson R-D1, but yes, I can easily see through it and it's actually not bad at all. Later I test the 'WYSIWYG' by looking through and comparing a shot. 85% coverage seems accurate. The pics are slightly wider than as seen. Easy to compensate for and actually better that way round - more room for error on the edges. Feel and ease of use - menus are quirky and not the easiest to figger out but I get there and still haven't looked at the manual. Settings stay locked to each operation mode and not global (P, A ,S, M) so if I set M (Manual) for 200 ISO and whatever else, when I switch back to P (Program) it goes back to the settings I used previously for that, say 800 Auto ISO and whatever else I set previously. Means I can set up M for things like landscapes and leave P for parties and grabs, S for high shutter speed shit and A for arty street shooting ;-) Whatever. Things I was interested to see that people had mentioned: Specular highlights - shit a brick! What's all the fuss about?? I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if I hadn't read the doom and gloom! Tried a few shots with highlights in and a complete waste of time bothering about it! I didn't buy the camera to pixel peep with - I bought it because it has a way better optical viewfinder than the Canon G12. What a relief. And Fooj are working on a fix so wtf. Parallax error - easy - close ups, just use the rear LCD. Everything else - non event. Finder is very good. For critical focus applications use rear LCD. End of. Mechanical operation - so far everything works, camera switches on and off as designed - very fast power up - in 'normal' - from switching on to 'alive' just over 1 second. In 'quick start' mode - almost instantaneous - my guess would be 2/10ths of a second. The rotating lens barrel for switch on is interesting and geared for shooting from cold. Nice. Shooting with it - fantastic. I preferred the articulated screen (and hence being able to fold away so can't bee seen) of the G12 or even the Epson R-D1 but hey. The rear LCD is visible from any angle - amazed at that. On the whole I tend not to use the rear LCD of any camera for composing - hence why I wanted a usable optical viewfinder. I would have liked Bob's X100 but for the restriction on the lens. The zoom range on the X10 isn't stellar but it suits my needs. The low light night shots are fantastic. Very impressed. To sum up - as Steve (Of The Gardens) said - it's been a long time since I've been this happy with a camera! Pics in due course. That is all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lighting Candles
on 2011-12-20 19:47 Rick Womer wrote I took this inside the Basilica San Marco in Venice. There are No Photography signs posted, and watchful vergers are quick to scold people with SLRs, but ignore hordes with cell phones, even when they use flash. So I shot from the hip and they left me alone. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826600 very rich, layered photo, i like it; could be improved with some geometry correction -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On 21/12/11, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: This is such a great report, I went to the Fuji web site to give a closer look-see to the camera and then to B H to the check price. If I find myself in the market for such a camera, I shall certainly consider your report, Cotty. Thanks much! Cheers, Christine That's very kind of you to say. I'll try and keep them coming. Whenever I read 'official' reports, they give you a good grounding of all the stuff you'd expect to read, but then I like to read the quirky stuff - the stuff you couldn't even begin to think of questions about. And also the stuff that the 'reviewers' obviously don't think are important enough for us everyday people to read. I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. By that I mean it might be easy to get blase about minor detail that actually can be the deal breaker for someone. Anyway thanks :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Cotty wrote: On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' I just figured you were barking mad. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Photographic Oasis
On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. Don't pine for me, Argentina ... -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. Seemed appropriate then. ]'-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
On 12/21/2011 2:14 PM, Bob W wrote: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B The difference being that neither was their core business. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B But IBM merely had to hire and/or shift software architects and developers into the rebuilding project and jump-start it. The infrastructure for computer software is all there. This article is pointing out how, if you let entire product categories go, then the manufacturing know-how, the staff, designers, all the infrastructure goes too. Think about another category that was big up until the 1970's then disappeared from North America: televisions and hifi. If the US wanted to build that consumer electronics again, it would have to start absolutely from scratch. There's nothing there. No supply chain, no designers, no manufacturing, nada. All TVs and hifi stuff is now made in the Pac Rim somewhere. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
Den 21. des. 2011 kl. 22:37 skrev Bob W: On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW102 - Santa was here...
Great ! :-) Thanks frank, Dave and Christine. DagT Den 19. des. 2011 kl. 18:40 skrev knarftheria...@gmail.com: Made me laugh. ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sent: December 18, 2011 12/18/11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW102 - Santa was here... A bit early, but he passed by the playground. http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA*16-50mm@45mm, 1/15s, f/2.8, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Believe me I would pour my heart out to you -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8II APO Lens Experiences
On 22/12/2011 01:15, Dario Bonazza wrote: Jan van Wijk wrote: Hmm, some room for interpretation here, do you mean this one: Sigma 70-200 mm f/2.8 II EX APO DG Macro HSM If so, no I have no experience with that one :-) However, I do have a slightly older version, which did not have HSM, and is not optimized for digital. Same here. It was one of my favorite lenses on film (MZ-S), together with the matching EX converters. If so, what say you? IQ was quite good, and so was build quality. I tend to use it less now, prefer the DA 50-135 for the shorter end, and the Bigma (with OS and HSM) for the long end. Except for the Bigma (which I don't own), I agree with Jan and I'd go a little further. That Sigma is an excellent lens. Some years ago I compared it to the Pentax FA* 2.8/80-200 and it was not so far from it. About resolution and sharpness, the Pentax was a little better at center ad a little softer at edges. All in all, quite a tie. The real pluses of the Pentax were an overall better brilliance of the image (color balance and such) and, most visible , a much better control of flare and ghost. The problem with some Sigma lenses (at least those I had the occasion to own) is you cannot really get accurate AF: Should you tune for say 70mm, you have a visible error at 200, and vice-versa. The same happens (even more critically) with the latest Sigma DC 17-70mm OS, which I sold quickly for that reason. Back to the Sigma 70-200mm AF issue, I then decided to set perfect focus around 150mm, so that I get fine results 100 to 200mm, while forgetting to use that lens around 70-80mm. After all, I own other lenses covering such focal lengths. So now I choose which one to take with me between DA* 50-135mm and the Sigma 70-200mm. Nine out of ten, the Pentax suits me better for the combination of focal length, size and noiseless operation (needed at performances I shot). At outdoor concerts, I take the Sigma with me. I'd love a DA/FA* 2.8/70-200mm! No, the DA* 4/60-250mm is not such a lens, as I miss that extra stop. Good information - many thanks. I've also looked at the 50-135, but it's more than double the price of the 70-200 down here and, while the 50-135 is a wonderful lens and I'd love one, I don't know if it's 2+ times as good as the Sigma. And I don't think I could stretch my relationship with the finance manager that far... :-) Regards, Pete Mac in Melbourne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Winter is here
Thanks to everyone who bothered to look and/or leave comments! :-) I suppose the river will freeze over at some point, but I don't think it will stop running all together. In summertime, by the way, this place is a nice spot for arranging bikini shoots. At this time of year, the sun is only above the horizon between nine and three, and barely over the treetops as far as this scenery is concerned. So motion stopping shutter speeds are not an option when you need DOF and low noise. Tim Bray's observation that water doesn't look like that is very interesting. What does water look like for real? Are motion-stopping, short exposure times any closer to reality than long exposures? I'd say not, because our eyes can't register details apparent only for a few milliseconds, any more than it can exactly imagine what a flow will look like in a long exposure. Some people like one and dislike the other, but to call dibs on what water *actually* looks like doesn't make sense to me. However it's interesting that we perceive such a simple thing as flowing water so differently. Thanks again, Jostein Dave Brooks wrote: Beautiful Jack Davis wrote: Nice, Jens! Won't that watter stop running when winter truly arrives? ;) David Savage wrote: Love No. 9. I think I need to organise a bikini beach shoot to help warm you poor frozen souls up. Gasha wrote: Nice! Rest of Europe is still without snow... Gasha, still waiting winter Christine Aguila wrote: Gosh, these are beautiful. It so much fun to see work made with the 645D--so glad you bought the camera, Jostein! The lines, composition, and textures in this gallery are wonderful. Really great! Tim Bray wrote: Beautifully seen composed exposed. But you know, I've never been able to like the long-exposure approach that turns the water into a homogeneous white smear; water just doesn't look like that, it should be visually complex. Knarf wrote: Beautiful gallery, Jostling! Happy Holidays to you and yours. Larry Colen wrote: Nice photos. You must have a really good camera! -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Believe me I would pour my heart out to you But I would knot, its against my grain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
From: Bruce Walker On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B But IBM merely had to hire and/or shift software architects and developers into the rebuilding project and jump-start it. The infrastructure for computer software is all there. This article is pointing out how, if you let entire product categories go, then the manufacturing know-how, the staff, designers, all the infrastructure goes too. Think about another category that was big up until the 1970's then disappeared from North America: televisions and hifi. If the US wanted to build that consumer electronics again, it would have to start absolutely from scratch. There's nothing there. No supply chain, no designers, no manufacturing, nada. All TVs and hifi stuff is now made in the Pac Rim somewhere. Most of your computer components too. There may be some assembly plants left in the U.S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Believe me I would pour my heart out to you But I would knot, its against my grain. I won't lumber you with any more puns. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B But IBM merely had to hire and/or shift software architects and developers into the rebuilding project and jump-start it. The infrastructure for computer software is all there. This article is pointing out how, if you let entire product categories go, then the manufacturing know-how, the staff, designers, all the infrastructure goes too. Think about another category that was big up until the 1970's then disappeared from North America: televisions and hifi. If the US wanted to build that consumer electronics again, it would have to start absolutely from scratch. There's nothing there. No supply chain, no designers, no manufacturing, nada. All TVs and hifi stuff is now made in the Pac Rim somewhere. Most of your computer components too. There may be some assembly plants left in the U.S. It's a tragedy of the commons thing. For each business it makes economic sense to move aspects of production off shore to where labor is cheaper. After a while, nobody is building anything in the US anymore. Except for Toyota and Honda who now have some car plants here. Now, they're even trying to outsource writing software. At the moment, the problem is that few of the Asian programmers have the necessary mindset to write code well. Then there is the disconnect from managing projects with teams 8-12 timezones apart. Eventually, the software culture will develop in Asia while fewer and fewer American kids learn how to program, and we'll be left wondering how to support ourselves, with nobody left qualified to design or manufacture anything in this country. In the meantime, we can get stuff cheap at Wal-Mart. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Winter is here
Actually, Jostein’s right; I shouldn’t claim that my way of seeing water is universal, because most people seem to love the impressionistic viewpoint that he captured so well in those shots. -T On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to everyone who bothered to look and/or leave comments! :-) I suppose the river will freeze over at some point, but I don't think it will stop running all together. In summertime, by the way, this place is a nice spot for arranging bikini shoots. At this time of year, the sun is only above the horizon between nine and three, and barely over the treetops as far as this scenery is concerned. So motion stopping shutter speeds are not an option when you need DOF and low noise. Tim Bray's observation that water doesn't look like that is very interesting. What does water look like for real? Are motion-stopping, short exposure times any closer to reality than long exposures? I'd say not, because our eyes can't register details apparent only for a few milliseconds, any more than it can exactly imagine what a flow will look like in a long exposure. Some people like one and dislike the other, but to call dibs on what water *actually* looks like doesn't make sense to me. However it's interesting that we perceive such a simple thing as flowing water so differently. Thanks again, Jostein Dave Brooks wrote: Beautiful Jack Davis wrote: Nice, Jens! Won't that watter stop running when winter truly arrives? ;) David Savage wrote: Love No. 9. I think I need to organise a bikini beach shoot to help warm you poor frozen souls up. Gasha wrote: Nice! Rest of Europe is still without snow... Gasha, still waiting winter Christine Aguila wrote: Gosh, these are beautiful. It so much fun to see work made with the 645D--so glad you bought the camera, Jostein! The lines, composition, and textures in this gallery are wonderful. Really great! Tim Bray wrote: Beautifully seen composed exposed. But you know, I've never been able to like the long-exposure approach that turns the water into a homogeneous white smear; water just doesn't look like that, it should be visually complex. Knarf wrote: Beautiful gallery, Jostling! Happy Holidays to you and yours. Larry Colen wrote: Nice photos. You must have a really good camera! -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
On 21/12/2011 18:31, P. J. Alling wrote: On 12/21/2011 12:11 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 21 December 2011 16:22, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 5:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend found an amusing easter egg on google maps http://g.co/maps/gtqkf -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I just asked it to give me directions, I'm pretty sure that you can't call it an Easter Egg if it gives you actual usable directions between two physical locations that actually exist. Unless you got different directions than I got in which case you'll have to post a screen shot. Look just above the directions. Well it certainly is in Beta, the first set of directions took me from the Shire in London to a 4 star Bar, the second time I asked for directions, it decided I wanted to go from The Shire house in Chicago, to a theater at Roosevelt University. Neither of those places resembles Mordor, I doubt they have four star restaurants. Mordor appears to be in Abingdon, near Oxford. OX14 1QZ to be precise. And we all know who lives in that neighborhood, don't we? -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
On 21/12/11, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Mordor appears to be in Abingdon, near Oxford. OX14 1QZ to be precise. And we all know who lives in that neighborhood, don't we? Yes dear Michael, and who would that be.. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
The all seeing eye, hum. On 12/21/2011 6:27 PM, Cotty wrote: On 21/12/11, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Mordor appears to be in Abingdon, near Oxford. OX14 1QZ to be precise. And we all know who lives in that neighborhood, don't we? Yes dear Michael, and who would that be.. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Blurb on indesign
On my normal schedule of a day late and a dollar short, I'm starting my holiday gift book project. I'm planning on doing a blurb book using inDesign CS5. Again, in my normal MO, this will be my first ID project. I've downloaded the blurb ID plugin, and am hoping that things will be fairly straightforward. However, before I go blindly ahead, I thought I'd ask for pointers to good tutorials (preferably written rather than video, I hate video tutorials), or at least any pointers about gotchas that I should be aware of. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: January PUG - Minimalist bt Name, Minimalist by Nature....
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Were you ever a nagging mother in your previous lives? (笑) Dunno - but it obviously worked Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Anyway, thank you for the reminders Mom. stan On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Brian Walters wrote: because we only have 3 submissions so far. Because of the holiday season, I'll be extending the submission deadline until 7 January but I'll probably annoy you with further reminders in the interim. +++ Theme: Minimalist Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right in non colour-managed browsers. More detailed guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
Now THAT is funny. (Walking directions). The Shire is apparently a restaurant and the destination is Mordor Tattoo. My wife, the Tolkien scholar/teacher, got a kick out of it too. PS... if you haven't already done so, enjoy the HD version of the new trailer for The Hobbit (along with the other 3.3 million people who have done so in the last 24 hrs. : ) Then enjoy the prospect of 12 more months until its release. : \ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Walking directions
Forgot the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0k3kHtyoqcnoredirect=1 On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Now THAT is funny. (Walking directions). The Shire is apparently a restaurant and the destination is Mordor Tattoo. My wife, the Tolkien scholar/teacher, got a kick out of it too. PS... if you haven't already done so, enjoy the HD version of the new trailer for The Hobbit (along with the other 3.3 million people who have done so in the last 24 hrs. : ) Then enjoy the prospect of 12 more months until its release. : \ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lighting Candles
Thanks, Charles. That's exactly the effect I was after. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:53 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Lighting Candles On Dec 20, 2011, at 20:47, Rick Womer wrote: I took this inside the Basilica San Marco in Venice. There are No Photography signs posted, and watchful vergers are quick to scold people with SLRs, but ignore hordes with cell phones, even when they use flash. So I shot from the hip and they left me alone. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826600 (K-7, DA 16-45) I crave comments. CRAVE? Yow. I like all of the different areas in this image. Yes, there is candle-lighting. But also the mosaic on the floor and all of the different areas of the ceiling. It's kinda fun to look through. Very good capture of what it was like to be standing there at the time and it puts me well into the place. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: January PUG - Minimalist bt Name, Minimalist by Nature....
Of course, the ultimate minimalist photo is no photo at all. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: January PUG - Minimalist bt Name, Minimalist by Nature On 12/20/2011 16:03, Brian Walters wrote: because we only have 3 submissions so far. I'll wager one of them is Dag's :-) ann (yeah, yeah, nag nag I'll get one to ya) Because of the holiday season, I'll be extending the submission deadline until 7 January but I'll probably annoy you with further reminders in the interim. +++ Theme: Minimalist Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right in non colour-managed browsers. More detailed guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Venice From Above
A view from the Campanile, the tower in San Marco: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826604size=lg (K-7, DA 50-200) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B But IBM merely had to hire and/or shift software architects and developers into the rebuilding project and jump-start it. The infrastructure for computer software is all there. This article is pointing out how, if you let entire product categories go, then the manufacturing know-how, the staff, designers, all the infrastructure goes too. Think about another category that was big up until the 1970's then disappeared from North America: televisions and hifi. If the US wanted to build that consumer electronics again, it would have to start absolutely from scratch. There's nothing there. No supply chain, no designers, no manufacturing, nada. All TVs and hifi stuff is now made in the Pac Rim somewhere. Most of your computer components too. There may be some assembly plants left in the U.S. It's a tragedy of the commons thing. For each business it makes economic sense to move aspects of production off shore to where labor is cheaper. After a while, nobody is building anything in the US anymore. Except for Toyota and Honda who now have some car plants here. Toyota and Honda plants are in right=to-work states. But that's not a solution for homegrown manufacturers, since right=to-work is a string of obscenities to democrats, who depend on union votes. Off-shore production is a fact of life for many products, and consumer electronics are chief among them. . BTW, the Detroit three still build cars here as well, many of them in union plants. But it's tough to compete with those who get a better deal. Did someone ask why they needed government bailouts to stay in business? Now, they're even trying to outsource writing software. At the moment, the problem is that few of the Asian programmers have the necessary mindset to write code well. Then there is the disconnect from managing projects with teams 8-12 timezones apart. Eventually, the software culture will develop in Asia while fewer and fewer American kids learn how to program, and we'll be left wondering how to support ourselves, with nobody left qualified to design or manufacture anything in this country. In the meantime, we can get stuff cheap at Wal-Mart. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blurb on indesign
On 12/21/11 6:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On my normal schedule of a day late and a dollar short, I'm starting my holiday gift book project. I'm planning on doing a blurb book using inDesign CS5. Again, in my normal MO, this will be my first ID project. I've downloaded the blurb ID plugin, and am hoping that things will be fairly straightforward. However, before I go blindly ahead, I thought I'd ask for pointers to good tutorials (preferably written rather than video, I hate video tutorials), or at least any pointers about gotchas that I should be aware of. First, build a time machine... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blurb on indesign
On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 12/21/11 6:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On my normal schedule of a day late and a dollar short, I'm starting my holiday gift book project. I'm planning on doing a blurb book using inDesign CS5. Again, in my normal MO, this will be my first ID project. I've downloaded the blurb ID plugin, and am hoping that things will be fairly straightforward. However, before I go blindly ahead, I thought I'd ask for pointers to good tutorials (preferably written rather than video, I hate video tutorials), or at least any pointers about gotchas that I should be aware of. First, build a time machine... I've got a time machine in my bedroom. I lie down in it each night, shut my eyes and when I wake up I've been transported about 8 hours into the future. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Walker On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Bob W pdml at web-options.com wrote: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak- offers-lessons-us-business A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader comments also. Tom C. they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing - twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover. B But IBM merely had to hire and/or shift software architects and developers into the rebuilding project and jump-start it. The infrastructure for computer software is all there. Just a comment: IBM actually sold one of its core businesses - computer storage (HDD) division to Hitachi in 2002-2003. IBM also sold its PC manufacturing to Lenovo in 2004-2005. http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/01/why-ibm-sold-its-pc-business-to-lenovo/ It restructured itself as a service provider as opposed to the hardware/ systems manufacturer. This article is pointing out how, if you let entire product categories go, then the manufacturing know-how, the staff, designers, all the infrastructure goes too. Think about another category that was big up until the 1970's then disappeared from North America: televisions and hifi. If the US wanted to build that consumer electronics again, it would have to start absolutely from scratch. There's nothing there. No supply chain, no designers, no manufacturing, nada. All TVs and hifi stuff is now made in the Pac Rim somewhere. Most of your computer components too. There may be some assembly plants left in the U.S. It's interesting that while large portion of the HDD manufacturing these days is done in the SouthEastern countries, at least one operation is done, - at least for the largest HDD manufacturers, Seagate and Hitachi GST, - in the US: fabrication of the read-write heads for the HDDs. Once major and the most critical steps of the head fabrication is completed in the US, those heads are shipped to Asia to, to complete the operations, and then to the assembly plants. Also, I learned recently yet another interesting fact: Some India-based publishing companies (contractors for many US-based scientific journals) actually hire US-based copy-editors. If the journal prefers to hire US-based copy-editors, they pay higher premium, compared to the India-based copy-editors. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Illumination
Hi Steven and Ann, I took it in my front yard here in New Mexico. I think it was the day i got the camera. And yeah, it does have that card feel to it. Going to try to print one out and send it to family asap. -Adam On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It definitely has a star of Bethlehem look to it. Where did you take it? On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Hey that's a nice card for this season, Adam.. Going through archives that are months/years old can often unearth things worth saving more than some closer to the time you took the shots, when the experience of taking them sometimes interfers. ann On 12/20/2011 21:05, Adam Montoya wrote: I took this photo this in May shortly after getting my K5. I noticed it in my archives when yesterday when i was going through deleting bad photos to save space on my drive. (blurry shots, test photos and the like). I don't know why i didn't upload it sooner. http://www.mountainfort.com/Photography/Uncategorized-2011/15501220_QXzjLX#1639723295_CLfLVxF-A-LB Handheld, 3200 iso. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.mountainfort.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Who says there is no such thing as bad publicity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUDTPbDhnA (Uploaded two days ago. Currently 3.1 million views.) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release FF DSLR and APS-C MILC in 2012
CDXL = 440 LXD = WTF (ancient Roman accountants' saying) stan On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:52 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Since LX was the Roman Numeral for 60, (The anniversary of Asahi's founding IIRC), then LXD would be the Pentax 440 if I interpret the positional notation of Roman Numerals correctly. On 12/21/2011 9:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark C On 12/20/2011 9:03 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Mark. You're rushing Pentax. They have to announce a K-3 first, a year later the Canikon killer, the K-1. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com After the K1 - what then? Dzs? LXD -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Who says there is no such thing as bad publicity?
Now that's a harbinger of joy. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUDTPbDhnA (Uploaded two days ago. Currently 3.1 million views.) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seek and ye shall find Takumars
On Dec 21, 2011, at 09:32 , Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 20, 2011, at 18:52, Paul Stenquist wrote: I don't have a hood, but you may want to hold the lens up to a white light to see if there's a yellow cast to the elements. The 35/2 Tak is one of the lenses that may have been built with the radioactive elements . If so, it would be subject to yellowing. No problem shooting digital. It's only a drawback when shooting film. (I have a yellowed 35/2, hence my knowledge of this.) Have you not tried the subject this lens to UV light for quite some time cure for this? Just needs a bit (ok, some days) of sunlight. Or so I have read. Wouldn't one need to mount the lens on a motorized sun tracking mechanism so as to prevent uneven sun time across the measure of the optics? Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more. Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion. No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years. Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon. — update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
Wed Dec 21 20:57:48 EST 2011 Paul Stenquist wrote: On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: It's a tragedy of the commons thing. For each business it makes economic sense to move aspects of production off shore to where labor is cheaper. After a while, nobody is building anything in the US anymore. Except for Toyota and Honda who now have some car plants here. Toyota and Honda plants are in right=to-work states. Paul, sorry, but I don't think you are correct in this statement. At least according to this Wikipedia page, Honda's plants in the US are in Alabama, Ohio and Indiana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants According to this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law out of these three, only Alabama is a right-to-work state. According to this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota , Toyota's six major assembly plants in the US are in Alabama (*), Kentucky, Indiana, Texas(*), West Virginia, and Missisippi(*). Only 3 of these states (marked with *) are right-to-work states. Mitshubishi has its only plant in Normal, IL, which is not a RTW state either. Of all the major Japanese car manufacturers, only Nissan has its plants exclusively in RTW states (Tennessee and Mississippi). So, while you are right about the disadvantages of the Big Three due to the fact that they need to deal with UAW, I suspect that your statement is based on the legends spread by the US car manufacturers as an excuse for their bad management and historic inheritance (which is, in some sense, is also a result of bad management). Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Another Saturday Night
Thanks, Mark, and thanks to everyone else who commented on this one. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Sent: December 20, 2011 12/20/11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Another Saturday Night On 12/19/2011 10:00 PM, frank theriault wrote: Title inspired by the Sam Cooke song (later covered by - among others - Cat Stevens): http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/another-saturday-night.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody, I got some money 'cause I just got paid, Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to, I'm in an awful way. cheers, frank He's got some money 'cause he just got paid... Nice shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Venice From Above
Wed Dec 21 20:53:40 EST 2011 Rick Womer wrote: A view from the Campanile, the tower in San Marco: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826604size=lg (K-7, DA 50-200) omments appreciated. Rick Nice photo. It immediately reminded mine that made it to the PDML exhibit in Chicago: http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/_IRP0265.html Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blurb on indesign
On 12/21/2011 21:02, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: ... First, build a time machine... I've got a time machine in my bedroom. I lie down in it each night, shut my eyes and when I wake up I've been transported about 8 hours into the future. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est LOL! great line, Larry ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Who says there is no such thing as bad publicity?
I'm guessing that by now he is an ExFedEx employee. Either that, or we have just been pranked by a competing carrier's clever viral video. (Bonus points for the double alliteration)! Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
On Dec 21, 2011, at 13:55 , DagT wrote: Den 21. des. 2011 kl. 22:37 skrev Bob W: On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Either way it's hard, to get your trousers on, and the zipper up. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seek and ye shall find Takumars
Reportedly, this cheap Ikea lamp (and probably others like it) are supposed to be the fastest way to clear the yellowing from Thorium. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10128734/ Click on the Product Information tab to get the requisite specs if looking for something similar elsewhere. Reports that this will clear it up in just a day or so. While the color cast is correctable in digital post-processing, the loss of light from the yellowing is significant enough a reason to get rid of it, whenever possible. What's the point of getting a fast lens and then losing 1/2 stop-1 stop to the Thorium yellowing? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photographic Oasis
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Believe me I would pour my heart out to you But I would knot, its against my grain. I won't lumber you with any more puns. You must be board. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Venice From Above
Nice capture. I like your POV. Must be hell for smog with all those chimneys ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: PESO - Venice From Above A view from the Campanile, the tower in San Marco: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826604size=lg (K-7, DA 50-200) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Subject: Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device Wed Dec 21 20:57:48 EST 2011 Paul Stenquist wrote: On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: It's a tragedy of the commons thing. For each business it makes economic sense to move aspects of production off shore to where labor is cheaper. After a while, nobody is building anything in the US anymore. Except for Toyota and Honda who now have some car plants here. Toyota and Honda plants are in right=to-work states. Paul, sorry, but I don't think you are correct in this statement. At least according to this Wikipedia page, Honda's plants in the US are in Alabama, Ohio and Indiana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants According to this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law out of these three, only Alabama is a right-to-work state. According to this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota , Toyota's six major assembly plants in the US are in Alabama (*), Kentucky, Indiana, Texas(*), West Virginia, and Missisippi(*). Only 3 of these states (marked with *) are right-to-work states. Mitshubishi has its only plant in Normal, IL, which is not a RTW state either. Of all the major Japanese car manufacturers, only Nissan has its plants exclusively in RTW states (Tennessee and Mississippi). So, while you are right about the disadvantages of the Big Three due to the fact that they need to deal with UAW, Another big disadvantage for the big 3 is their legacy costs due to the pension payouts of a more senior workforce than most of the transplants. I suspect that your statement is based on the legends spread by the US car manufacturers as an excuse for their bad management and historic inheritance (which is, in some sense, is also a result of bad management). Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Herbert Ponting and Frank Hurley Arctic/Antarctic photo exhibit
I know nothing of photography. An old Pentax once took good photographs of the wilder shores of Turkey for me, but, apart from pointing the lens, I played little part in what it did; a devout Luddite, to me its technology was as much a mystery as mathematics. An unusual beginning for a review of a photography exhibit in the UK: The Heart of the Great Alone: Scott, Shackleton and Antarctic Photography is at The Queen's Gallery, SW1 (020 7766 7301, royalcollection.org.uk) until April 15, 2012. Open daily (except December 25-26), 10am-5.30pm; admission £7.50 (concs available) Description: Historical photographs presented to King George V by official photographers Herbert Ponting and Frank Hurley, together with artefacts including the flag given to Scott by Queen Alexandra. The review/article may be of some interest: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/review-24021677-the-heart-of-the-great-alone-queens-gallery---review.do Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Herbert Ponting and Frank Hurley Arctic/Antarctic photo exhibit
On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I know nothing of photography. An old Pentax once took good photographs of the wilder shores of Turkey for me, but, apart from pointing the lens, I played little part in what it did; a devout Luddite, to me its technology was as much a mystery as mathematics. I think this is the exhibit we saw nearly a year ago at our local historic art gallery. It's well worth a look but I'm slightly biased as Antarctica fascinates me. I only remember the date because we'd planned to see it on Boxing Day after checking out the Ron Mueck exhibition at the new, modern art gallery. While we were seeing that we had an earthquake big enough to close the old building for safety checks (M4.9, centered only a couple of blocks away from where we were). They kept the newer gallery open so we finished what we were doing then went down to find the historic building closed. It reopened within a couple of days so we returned to see the antarctic photos. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Venice From Above
A view from the Campanile, the tower in San Marco: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826604size=lg (K-7, DA 50-200) Comments appreciated. Rick very atmospheric. I must go back to Italy soon - I've only been twice. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blurb on indesign
On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 12/21/2011 21:02, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: ... First, build a time machine... I've got a time machine in my bedroom. I lie down in it each night, shut my eyes and when I wake up I've been transported about 8 hours into the future. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est LOL! great line, Larry Thanks, I must confess it's not original, nor do I remember who I stole it from. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How do I set the color of indesign pages?
I am being stymied by something that should be trivial. I want the pages of my book, behind the photos, to be black. I've been poring over the supposed help files, trying various things and nothing I try is working. Could someone please tell me how to do this? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do I set the color of indesign pages?
I figured something out. I selected the rectangle tool, pasted that rectangle on the top, then sent it to the back. I think I should have been able to do this using the master page, but maybe that would have had to have been before I started. On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I am being stymied by something that should be trivial. I want the pages of my book, behind the photos, to be black. I've been poring over the supposed help files, trying various things and nothing I try is working. Could someone please tell me how to do this? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
