Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread Cotty
I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness.  Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop

Re: K20 vs K100 smackdown continued

2009-07-24 Thread Thibouille
About 'RAW histogram': Not AFAIK but so called 'Pro cameras' may do so. I highly doubt about it though: if WB influences histogram (and it does) there's no way to do a really useful 'RAW histogram' because even if it was available, the resulting histogram following a WB change would not be the

Re: How to lose a sale

2009-07-24 Thread mike wilson
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I was in a shoe shop today, looking at shoes (surprise, surprise). I had my M8 hanging from my shoulder. After staring disconsolately at the footwear on offer I heard somebody muttering something in my ear. It was a shop assistant. Is that old thing

Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page

2009-07-24 Thread mike wilson
ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Appreciate any comments and certainly if you see a link or a stupid typo let me know -- but only if you happen on it or have no life and look at everything :-) Too much coming up in the yellow boxes. They only last about 3 seconds and a terse

Re: Whats a DS worth these days?

2009-07-24 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Recent completed listings on Ebay for the DS body-only show auctions completed successfully in and around the $205-220 range. The 18-55 kit lens sells new, by itself, for $175 or so. With a body, new, it adds $100 to the cost of the body

RE: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-24 Thread John Coyle
Dave I still have a working Iomega 100MB drive in my office. It's a long way from me to you, but I can help out if you like. Transfer to CD be the way to go? John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks

Re: How to lose a sale

2009-07-24 Thread AlunFoto
Interesting story. Bet his knowledge about shoes was on par with his knowledge about cameras... Jostein 2009/7/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I was in a shoe shop today, looking at shoes (surprise, surprise). I had my M8 hanging from my shoulder. After staring disconsolately at the footwear

Re: Every time you miss a shot ...

2009-07-24 Thread Anthony Farr
2009/7/24 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: But; does God kill a baby duck if you miss a shot while franticly changing lenses? I doubt it, because everyone knows that 'Lord love(s) a duck'. regards, Anthony   Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight

RE: OT - Polaroid again?

2009-07-24 Thread Bob W
there is a thriving market in Lomos, Holgas and suchlike, and over here the Photographers' Gallery seems to do a decent trade in small wooden pinhole cameras that use 35mm film. I should think a new Polaroid camera would be pitched at the same market segment and would stand a decent chance of

RE: K20 vs K100 smackdown continued

2009-07-24 Thread Bob W
About 'RAW histogram': Not AFAIK but so called 'Pro cameras' may do so. I highly doubt about it though: if WB influences histogram (and it does) there's no way to do a really useful 'RAW histogram' because even if it was available, the resulting histogram following a WB change would not

DA* 200/2.8 on film

2009-07-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Thanks to Derby this web page (http://liberman-family.com/boris/da_lenses_on_film.html) got updated again. This time with DA* 200/2.8 shots. Cheers! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons

2009-07-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24/07/2009, Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: This guy has posted the best controlled comparison I have seen of noise levels in the two cameras: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51031...@n00/sets/72157621362031046/ Navigate through until you get to the original size images.

Re: K20 vs K100 smackdown continued

2009-07-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24/07/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: As an aid to exposure a histogram based on the raw data should, if my understanding is correct, be more accurate than one based on a jpeg. However, my guess is that the accuracy of the output is limited by the resolution of the display on the

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread mike wilson
Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix

Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-24 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks John. I have the files off the zip drive and on the computer hard drive. Just burn to do a CD and find some way to convert the kodak files that were not done. Most were Dave On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:04 AM, John Coylejco...@powerup.com.au wrote: Dave I still have a working Iomega 100MB

Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons

2009-07-24 Thread AlunFoto
2009/7/23 Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com: Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of which I would like to use). When I look at those images, it strikes me that the K20D pics looks

Re: K20 Shutter noise.

2009-07-24 Thread Thibouille
Yep, compared to my K10D, K-7 is silent as possible. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:27 AM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I never found the K20 shutter to be objectionably loud. However, the K7 shutter is considerably quieter. Paul On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-24 Thread AlunFoto
That must be a K-9. Jostein 2009/7/24 wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's just me, but how about a photo *OF* the K-7 with the 77 Ltd? I'm not dogging the doggie

Re: Every time you miss a shot ...

2009-07-24 Thread AlunFoto
2009/7/24 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I came up with a T-shirt I want. JB and I were talking about lenses and he accused me of being a lens junkie. I replied: Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. You can thank me that the world is not

Re: PESO -- Happy Dog

2009-07-24 Thread Jack Davis
Good lens and very well exposed image. Looks like 'Happy' has a case of what I believe is called cherry eye.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Happy Dog To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO -- Old Painted Wall

2009-07-24 Thread Jack Davis
Appealing shot. Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Old Painted Wall To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:52 PM I can't find peeling paint that's as

July PUG worth a look!

2009-07-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some great pics in the July pug. HIghlights for me were Ken Waller and Walter Hamler's Blue Angel pics, Christine's shot of a plane ascending into the clouds, Robb's seaplane, Ted Beilby's wingwalker and biplane, Dan Matyola's classic airborne refueling pic, and as an example of a really

RE: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-24 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Wow. Filled the request, took a great shot, and made a great pun. You are on a roll. And that really is a great shot. So maybe it wasn't the K-7 after all . . .not that I could afford the Canon. ;-) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On

RE: OT The PEN Story

2009-07-24 Thread Desjardins, Steve
That's a really absorbing piece. Beautifully done. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT The PEN Story That ones been around on the

Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-24 Thread Bruce Walker
wendy beard wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's just me, but how about a photo *OF* the K-7 with the 77 Ltd? I'm not dogging the doggie pics, I just want some camera/lens porn. Please...?

Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Roberts
wendy beard wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 Right. Now if you want to really impress us, have the *dog* take a shot of *you* with the K7 and 77 Ltd. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: July PUG worth a look!

2009-07-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking and commenting. Dan On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Some great pics in the July pug. HIghlights for me were Ken Waller and Walter Hamler's Blue Angel pics, Christine's shot of a plane ascending into the clouds, Robb's seaplane,

Re: JULY PUG is up

2009-07-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful! Thanks again, so much, Scott, for all your efforts and you talents on our behalf. Dan On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: July PUG is up.  http://pug.komkon.org/  August is still open. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th,

Re: JULY PUG is up

2009-07-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Pretty good collection of shots! I'd give it an A. The variety of compositions and technical quality are excellent. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: July PUG is up.  http://pug.komkon.org/  August is still open. -- Scott Loveless

Re: PESO -- Manure Spreader

2009-07-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
We've got a lot of manure spreaders around here G Dan On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Went to a friend's brother's 60th birthday party.  Took lots of photos, few interesting to anyone who wasn't there.  There was this however...

Re: Every time you miss a shot ...

2009-07-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. God kills kittens because he can. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: JULY PUG is up

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Scott Loveless wrote: July PUG is up. http://pug.komkon.org/ August is still open. Everyone's submission was at least good, except for mine... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what

RE: PESO -- Happy Dog

2009-07-24 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Another dog picture! Clearly we are entering the dog days of summer. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO -- Happy Dog Good lens and very

Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page

2009-07-24 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Ann That all looks pretty smick Attractive layout and logical interface. I really like the On the Road Again, Jim Thorpe PA and (dare I say it) the Ashley galleries. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme.

July PUG

2009-07-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
WOW! A truly superb PUG. There are very few things I like better than photography and aircraft, and when them come together, I am happy indeed. This gallery has a broad spectrum of aviation shots, from the marvelous views of the Blue Angels (one of my favorite acts of all time) to very personal

RE: Every time you miss a shot ...

2009-07-24 Thread Desjardins, Steve
So says Pope Bill I. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Every time you miss a shot ... - Original Message - From: Larry Colen

Re: PESO -- Old Painted Wall

2009-07-24 Thread Brian Walters
Something tells me I'd like to see that in colour. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:52 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find peeling

Re: OT - Polaroid again?

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Those cameras look like the exact opposite of Holgas and Lomos. Small Objet des Arts, not cheap plastic toys. Bob W wrote: there is a thriving market in Lomos, Holgas and suchlike, and over here the Photographers' Gallery seems to do a decent trade in small wooden pinhole cameras that use

Re: PESO -- Tutu

2009-07-24 Thread Brian Walters
Now that's just sad. Not the shot (I like it) but the concept. I hope that pooch peed on the driver's seat. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:46 -0400, P. J. Alling

FS: Lenses, Camera, TC's, Tripod

2009-07-24 Thread Jerome Reyes
For sale now via eBay: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX Macro for Pentax AF http://tinyurl.com/nkrpzk Pentax A* 400mm / f 2.8 ED [IF] Telephoto http://tinyurl.com/lme39x Pentax SMC FA 50mm f1.7 f/1.7 AF Prime Lens http://tinyurl.com/m2ffon For sale next week (or now via best offer). I haven't done my

Re: PESO -- Red Tail Hawk

2009-07-24 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:32 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: This is why I carry a camera everywhere... I was walking in downtown Madison CT. Once but no longer a rural town, and turned a corner surprising this beauty dining on a small rabbet alfresco. He took off in a

Re: PESO -- Happy Dog

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Dog days HAR! Right now it's raining and despite the official temperature it feels cold, and except for yesterday it's been that way for most of the summer. I still have hopes for August. Desjardins, Steve wrote: Another dog picture! Clearly we are entering the dog days of summer.

Re: PESO -- Happy Dog

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes he does, the vet tells me that as long as it isn't irritated removing it is just a cosmetic procedure. Jack Davis wrote: Good lens and very well exposed image. Looks like 'Happy' has a case of what I believe is called cherry eye.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling

Re: July PUG

2009-07-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan, Thanks for the notice on my modest photo. Like you, I enjoyed the shots out the windows as excellent. I've tried, but never gotten as good as Igor's or Graydon Saunders'. Of course, High up by Carl Gjersem is a favorite. Simply stunning, in a gallery of great photos! Mark, this would make

Re: JULY PUG is up

2009-07-24 Thread tbeilby
I really enjoyed seeing everyone's submissions for this PUG. P.J., your airstrip shot reminds me of countless strips that I visited with my Dad while he was delivering wings to crop dusting companies in California. I loved them because I never knew what I would see, crashed airplanes,

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation

FS Friday - Lenses, bags, flash

2009-07-24 Thread gldnbearz
Doing a little summer clean out. 1) Tokina AF 20-35/3.5-4.5, 72mm filter size, comes with generic front rear caps. $125 2) Pentax M75-150/4, 49mm filter size, built in sun shade, push-pull zoom, front rear caps. $45 3) Lowepro Street Field Rover Light camera backpack in black tan. Has lower

Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-24 Thread Margus Männik
:) OK, understood. BRM P. J. Alling wrote: Drawers is a synonym for pants, often used for underwear... Margus Männik wrote: Well, unfortunately I'm not a native English speaker (and me and my first English teacher, we considered each other as complete morons) ... but hopefully you can

Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page

2009-07-24 Thread Doug Brewer
ann sanfedele wrote: I mean, it IS photography , and there are a ton of photos taken with a Pentax LX or KX . I did a new banner (newnew, as I slightly changed the one from a day or two ago ) and simplified the front page... reorganized a lot... more to do, but except for possibly puting a

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what

Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page

2009-07-24 Thread Christine Aguila
NIce write up, Doug, well deserved. Ann should be very pleased! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com Good job, Ann. Nice overview of your work, and logical layout. I mentioned before that I had written a little about you and your photography

Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page

2009-07-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Yellow boxes??? What yellow boxes??? yikes! MIke -- I was playing around with color stuff yesterday .. thought I was making some text less white and screwed up... that being said -- I presume you mean the details coming up when you do a slide show... if you click on the thumbnails instead

Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page

2009-07-24 Thread ann sanfedele
follow up -- ack -- I hope I can correct what you mean --- apparently when you mouse over a thumb the whole gallery description shows up in a text box... annoying enough, to me as well as you, but then there was a brief time when I was trying out colors for what I thought was only tiny text

Peso PHC Lead line class today

2009-07-24 Thread David J Brooks
Friends of ours asked if i could take some shots of their young daughter in the Lead Line class today. I took quite a few, but i like this one a lot. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535046 Not sure if i like it in BW http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535049 D200 Raw file,

Re: Every time you miss a shot ...

2009-07-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. God kills kittens because he can. That's why

Re: OT The PEN Story

2009-07-24 Thread David J Brooks
A few of the local Henrys stores are having an Olympus rep in and doing a hands on demo this weekend i think. May try and attend that Dave On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I was sent the following link, it's a 3min ad for the new Oly Pen,

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM, ann sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness.  Made my day. Sorry, no.  The puns were on the aviation theme.  You were utterly

Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons

2009-07-24 Thread Joseph Tainter
Seriously, though, I personally believe the K-7 to be a sort of one-off; a test-bed for technology intended for the 645 due next year. Jostein - Interesting. But there is some good new technology and software in the K-7, so surely Pentax would use that, and build on it, in future APS-C

PESO -- Tom

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
An informal portrait... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tom.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm f2.8 Variable Focusing. Notes: A little soft, but I think that I shot this wide open. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with

Turbo Charged July Pug!

2009-07-24 Thread Christine Aguila
An excellent PUG! Great breadth: historical, dare-devilish, playful, and scenic. Love it! In all honesty, I enjoyed all the photos--subject matter highly interesting and execution terrific! Well done PDMLers! Thanks everyone, and thanks Scott for putting it together. Cheers, Christine

Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Ah yes, hope springs eternal. Ask any Red Sox fan, and after almost a century... AlunFoto wrote: 2009/7/23 Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com: Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of

Re: PESO -- Tutu

2009-07-24 Thread Christine Aguila
Tutu's funny, P.J. Also, I like the woman in the greasy spoon. Good catch on Red Tail as well. Looks like you're enjoying the K20D. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday,

Re: Peso PHC Lead line class today

2009-07-24 Thread Christine Aguila
Lovely! Dave, I prefer the color. The black hat and red jacket set off the great expression nicely. My pick is color! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com Cc: Home

adorama doesn't seem to want my business

2009-07-24 Thread Larry Colen
It looks like the monopod that meets my specs for reasonable quality and fitting in both my camera bag and budget is the Manfrotto 790B. At $33, and 16 collapsed, it looks like an affordable solution. I sent Adorama a note asking if there were any other monopods that met my specifications, this

Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business

2009-07-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: adorama doesn't seem to want my business It looks like the monopod that meets my specs for reasonable quality and fitting in both my camera bag and budget is the Manfrotto 790B. At $33, and 16 collapsed, it looks like an affordable

K-7 on tour

2009-07-24 Thread Larry Colen
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=32474376page=1 John C is taking the K-7 and some lenses on tour and is looking for suggestions of places to meet up. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are

My current prime lens A-Team

2009-07-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for

Re: Peso PHC Lead line class today

2009-07-24 Thread Jack Davis
They must be very pleased with your work. I prefer the color. Jack --- On Fri, 7/24/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso PHC Lead line class today To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com Cc: Home

Re: PESO -- Tom

2009-07-24 Thread Jack Davis
I like the slightly soft look in this case. Nice color tones. Some facial shadows might be lightened a bit..or not. Jack --- On Fri, 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Tom To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO -- Tom

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I was thinking that too. With RSE lightening shadows was a snap during raw conversion. With Pentax Photo Lab not so much. In fact the words No way Jose would describe it's capabilities perfectly. I still need a raw converter that matches my work flow. Jack Davis wrote: I like the

K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the

Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business

2009-07-24 Thread Igor Roshchin
Larry, You sound too idealistic to me.. (I know you aren't that naive :-) ) After all, Adorama (unless you stop by at their store) is a mail-order store which has a relatively low margin and sells you what you want to buy, and not a consulting business. Like with most internet/mail-order

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
To quote most any 14 year old girl EEEAAAUUU. Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 24, 2009, at 13:20, P. J. Alling wrote: To quote most any 14 year old girl EEEAAAUUU. 14-year-old girl, nothing. That's what *I* was going to say! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread gldnbearz
All that narrative and NO photos?? =) - Pat 2009/7/24 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7.

RE: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Since day one, I have kept my istDS in a nice soft leather holster type bag when not in use. And I don't even have any cats Why leave any DSLR exposed to whatever? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list -

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread Cory Waters
Thank God. gldnbearz wrote: All that narrative and NO photos?? =) - Pat 2009/7/24 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on

Re: My current prime lens A-Team

2009-07-24 Thread Miserere
So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. Did you get the name of the guy you got that cat from? It wasn't

RE: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons

2009-07-24 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Huh? They won in 2004 and 2007. Do Cub fans have any hope? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons Ah

PESO -- Red Tail Hawk II

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I was looking at the photos of the Red Tail Hawk again and decided this one was worth a second go. It's about 3/5 of the frame cropped to 8x10 dimensions. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-200mm f3.8~5.6 --

Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Kinda my point. However Pentax has only been promising a 645D for 3 or 4 years now approximately 90 left to go... Desjardins, Steve wrote: Huh? They won in 2004 and 2007. Do Cub fans have any hope? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On

Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business

2009-07-24 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:15:00PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, You sound too idealistic to me.. (I know you aren't that naive :-) ) Only sometimes. After all, Adorama (unless you stop by at their store) is a mail-order store which has a relatively low margin and sells you what

Re: PESO -- Red Tail Hawk II

2009-07-24 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 24, 2009, at 14:02, P. J. Alling wrote: I was looking at the photos of the Red Tail Hawk again and decided this one was worth a second go. It's about 3/5 of the frame cropped to 8x10 dimensions. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html Better. I

Re: DS-1 Exposure

2009-07-24 Thread John Graves
See..I did need to put my glasses on...I try not to pound any of my cameras. John Graves WA1JG P. J. Alling wrote: Well I guess a pound ist DS is more palatable than a starkist DS... John Graves wrote: It's a #istDS before I put my glasses on. John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net

Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-24 Thread Ken Waller
Handsome canine great capture also. Does he take cat shots? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM,

RE: My current prime lens A-Team

2009-07-24 Thread John Whittingham
I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC

Re: peso wandering sax player

2009-07-24 Thread Igor Roshchin
I did! :-) Thu Jul 23 16:18:46 CDT 2009 Larry Colen wrote: Also, the flash has nothing to do with my bumbling, you should have seen my dancing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: July PUG?

2009-07-24 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: July PUG? Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote:

RE: My current prime lens A-Team

2009-07-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I like tend to favor FF manual focus optics for now. NO, I don't carry all these all the time, I have many other prime and zoom combos but if I had to cover widest range at best possible quality, this would be it for now. My minimal kit is a 18mm prime smck f3.5 24-50/A F4 70-210/a F4 300 A* F4

RE: My current prime lens A-Team

2009-07-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
that's a nice setup, but its more lenses than I would want to carry along or risk losing. I have lenses in nearly every fl from 15mm to 1000mm but I wouldn't want to bring them all with me. That's why I spaced it out to seven total and even that's pushing it in terms of number of lenses to carry

Re: Every time you miss a shot ...

2009-07-24 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Every time you miss a shot ... - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you

Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business

2009-07-24 Thread Joseph Tainter
This sounds like the time that I got a message from Pentax service that said, in essence, We don't know anything but feel free to ask any time. You might get advice from BH on the phone, but it will be fast-paced, New York-style advice. Adorama is a funny company in many ways. I now buy from

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-7, some real-life testing All that narrative and NO photos?? =) Now there's a topic for a future PUG - What my cat threw up. - Pat 2009/7/24 Ralf R.

PESO - Mini Megalith

2009-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Some people try to replicate Stonehenge in their driveways... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20minimegalith.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6 -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin

Re: K-7, some real-life testing

2009-07-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/7/09, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he

RE: My current prime lens A-Team

2009-07-24 Thread John Whittingham
Hi John I rarely carry anything longer than the 135 on a regular basis, unless I'm shooting motorsport or wildlife. I sometimes replace the FA 135 and 1.4 TC with the F 70-210 zoom or Tamron 70-300 LD Di. The Tamron is actually sharper than the F 70-210 and works really well with the 1.4 TC if

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