Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
I quite like this. Something about the lighting, I think. Sorry I can't be more specific, I'm a bit fatigued :) Cheers, Dave On Dec 9, 2012, at 6:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
On 8 December 2012 08:37, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B Very interesting Bob. A sad story: My mother's family was living in Devon and they had a little girl from the East End billeted with them as part of the evacuation of children. Her father, a docker, came to visit and she innocently told him to take his elbows off the table as it was bad manners. He said something like I'm not having my daughter growing up with middle class airs and graces. He took the girl back home with him. After the war my mother tried to track them down and heard that the whole family had been wiped out by a direct hit on their Anderson shelter a couple of days later. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On 6/12/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Never has been, for me. I care deeply what equipment I use, but brand name is the last reason I'd ever give for wanting a particular piece of equipment. If one brand doesn't make what I am looking for, well, I just look elsewhere. Agreed. With one exception for me. Land Rover. And Apple. Two - two exceptions for me. And Levi's. That's three - three exceptions for me and no more. And Fender. Oh shit... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On 6/12/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I find that drinking certainly helps when it comes time to read the PDML. Mark. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG now up. Enjoy!
As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Enjoyed the gallery, well done to everyone who submitted! 'Steam' by Dario is a stunning picture. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 8/12/12, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy ;) Nice gallery mate. Some of those are stunning. Is that your little man btw? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Now everywhere I can hear them talking about stuff like growth or doubling the sales in 2013. I'm hearing they hired back RD engineers, to make up for those fired by Hoya. They have 2-years roadmaps totaling 8 K-mount lenses + 1 TC, 4 645D ones and 3 for Q; and, most important, they're on track with the execution. Alex, respectfully, I don't have that kind of insider information on Pentax, so where do you obtain it? If their road map doesn't contain a 24 MP APS-C body, a FF body and lenses, then they're missing the boat. I'm sure the market for either of those two cameras would dwarf the market for a 645D or a Q. Tom, You've mentioned 24 MP a few times. How large are you printing that you need 24MP? Also, what APS-C camera has that resolution? 4000x6000 pixels, on a 16x24mm sensor, that gives 4um on a side for a pixel. Using the diffraction calculator at: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm f/2.8 has an Airy Diameter of 3.7 um or about 1 pixel f/5.6 has an Airy Diameter of 7.5 um or about 2 pixel f/8 has an Airy Diameter of 10.7 um or about 2.5 pixel The page says: As a result of the sensor's anti-aliasing filter (and the Rayleigh criterion above), an airy disk can have a diameter of about 2-3 pixels before diffraction limits resolution (assuming an otherwise perfect lens). However, diffraction will likely have a visual impact prior to reaching this diameter. In other words, with an AA filter, a 24MP APS-C lens will definitely be diffraction limited by f/8.0. Without an AA filter, assuming that the lens is sharp enough, diffraction is probably having an effect by f/4 or f/5.6. 4um is 250/mm, which I understand works out to 125 lp/mm. Looking at DxOmark http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-35mm-f14G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 35/1.4 52 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-50mm-F18G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 50/1.8 53lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-DX-Micro-NIKKOR-40mm-F28G/(camera)/680 Nikkor 40/2.8 is 49lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/smc-D-FA-MACRO-100mm-F2.8-WR/(camera)/676 Pentax DFA macro 100/2.8 is 46 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/Pentax-smc-DA-35mm-F28-Macro-Limited/(camera)/676 Pentax DA 35/2.8 macro is 46 lp/mm It seems as if you want a sensor that has approximately twice the resolution of a very good prime lens, which correlates roughly with the Nyquist rate, which would mean that you would never need an anti-aliasing filter, because even without getting into diffraction limiting, you're already past the Nyquist rate. Is this why you feel that 24 MP is so necessary in an APS sensor camera? Bay photo seems to use 250 dpi as a print resolution: http://www.bayphoto.com/bayweb/pro_fileprep.htm Which, interestingly works out to 16x24 inches. However using the scaling of the graph they use for Minimum Pixel size to yield good prints, they seem to work with about five printer dots per pixel, which means that with a 4000x6000 sensor, you should be able to print at 80x100 inches. How often do you make prints that large? On the other hand, lower resolution would give more surface area per pixel, which would increase both dynamic range, and signal to noise ratio. In my photography, I find myself running up against these two far more often than I run out of resolution in printing. By Bay Photo's chart, my K-5's 14 MP is good for something like a 60x80 inch print. A 5x7 for people who measure their prints in feet, rather than inches. I might be missing something here, because I've never printed much larger than 18x24. Although you implied market forces require that sort of resolution, which means that the average photographer who uses their SLR as an expensive point and shoot is printing that large. Or, are you just saying that it is one of those marketing things, where people aren't satisfied with less than 300 cubic inches of displacement in their car's engine, whether or not the customer would ever use the power, or whether or not a car with a much smaller engine would outperform it? As I see it, I'm either not technically inclined enough, and I am totally missing the analysis of why16MP, or even 12, is not enough, and why a camera needs 24 MP in order to be marketable. Or, it could be that I'm far too much of a geek, and am missing something critical by only looking at the physics of the situation. The latter is quite possible, because I also can't understand why suburban housewives in Coastal California where it never snows, need a 5,000 pound four wheel drive SUV, that seats eight, has a 6 liter motor that puts out 300 hp. -- Larry Colen
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 17:03, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Some nice photographs here. Like the bottle and the blue man (outdoor sculpture?). Had to look at both twice. Hi Marnie, Thanks, yes those two shots and a few other shots were from a set captured at Sculptures by the Sea in Sydney, some really interesting works there. But I really love the wide shot of the rocks, #29. Very peaceful, nicely composed, lovely shot. Thanks again, that was shot on the shores of Lake Jindabyne in the Australian Snowy Mountains, a beautiful piece of country with really limitless photo opportunities. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 21:23, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Nice gallery mate. Some of those are stunning. Is that your little man btw? Hi Cotty, Thanks, yeah that's the little guy, he's 6 and a bit now and seems to be and turning out OK :) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Gang
Thanks Marnie. Good to see you back here. Paul On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:35 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Very nice. Sort of a modern our gang. Marnie aka Doe :-) Nice lighting too. In a message dated 12/8/2012 2:09:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: In downtown Birmingham a couple of weeks ago. The kid in the purple stocking cap asked me to take their picture. Lots of joy here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655718size=lg -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The origins of art criticism
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RE: GESO Reds
Hi Marnie You are correct, the one of the Weber carburetor is soft. Maybe I should have changed the focus mode to Macro. Not too many choices on the WG2. I can't resist Webers, they are so beautifully made and the sound, oh the sound. I miss my 308GT4 at times like this!!! Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12:50 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO Reds I like the last, least red one, the best. Nice lines. The second, engine? one, is a little soft and considering the detail, seems it should be focused on the back. But the last is a definite keeper. HTH, Marnie In a message dated 12/8/2012 3:43:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gerrit...@gmail.com writes: My first gallery here.not all reds but they are all part of something red. These were taken with a WG2 today. The only post porcessing was some cropping and straightening. http://hobbies.psgv.ca/wp-content/wp-hive/hobbies.psgv.ca/LR4/photos/reds/ Yes, I know the link is weird, I'll work on that RSN :-) Gerrit -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Maybe?
Thanks Dan. Three coffee shops on this street, including a Starbucks. For coffee, another one is best, but for photos, the Starbucks is best with good light and lots of customers. You do know that Starbucks cup! :-) Paul On Dec 8, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice portrait; I like the intensity you caught in her face and posture. I thought you said it was a coffee shop, but that looks like a Starbucks cup. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A coffee shop pic. DA*50-135, ISO 3200 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655754size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
This is an extremely well done, Marnie! I'm impressed with both composition and exposure. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
After leaving the picture up to look at off and on for 10 minutes, I figured out why I like it. There is a nice symmetry of prickels, with one cactus almost in the centre. The larger one to right leads my eyes to the small (baby?) leaning in to get into the view. Very nice effect, once you let it all sink in. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12:59 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO Reds
I forgot to mention that Ducted is actually satin black but there is so much red in the vicinity that it took on a whole different effect. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12:50 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO Reds I like the last, least red one, the best. Nice lines. The second, engine? one, is a little soft and considering the detail, seems it should be focused on the back. But the last is a definite keeper. HTH, Marnie In a message dated 12/8/2012 3:43:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gerrit...@gmail.com writes: My first gallery here.not all reds but they are all part of something red. These were taken with a WG2 today. The only post porcessing was some cropping and straightening. http://hobbies.psgv.ca/wp-content/wp-hive/hobbies.psgv.ca/LR4/photos/reds/ Yes, I know the link is weird, I'll work on that RSN :-) Gerrit -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO Reds
Thank you Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: December 9, 2012 9:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO Reds Great detail and interesting compositions. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: My first gallery here.not all reds but they are all part of something red. These were taken with a WG2 today. The only post porcessing was some cropping and straightening. http://hobbies.psgv.ca/wp-content/wp-hive/hobbies.psgv.ca/LR4/photos/r eds/ Yes, I know the link is weird, I'll work on that RSN :-) Gerrit -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
Very nice! great lighting and the textures really stand out. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bomb sight
It's quite possible the bomb didn't go off because it wasn't armed before it was jettisoned. I was a bombardier/Navigator and an Airborne Radar Officer in the USMC many years ago. Most of the bombs we used and trained with had to be armed before they were dropped. One wouldn't arm a bomb before jettisoning it over friendly or neutral territory. I can still explode under some unusual circumstances, but usually an unarmed bomb is just dead weight. Of course, something that heavy can still cause terrible damage, even if it doesn't explode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: My grandparents apartment was nearly destroyed by bomb jettisoned over Amsterdam by an allied bomber on its return to UK. Have to get the photo, quite amazing that no one died. A large hole but it didn't detonate for some reason. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: December 8, 2012 7:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bomb sight A view from the other side of the channel: When I was five-six, (1950) my family finished up a three-year stint in Northern Greece and headed back to the States. A three-week tour through Europe, then a boat back home. One of my vivid memories from that trip was seeing block after block of damaged buildings in Germany and asking my father what had happened to them. They were bombed during the war and haven't been able to rebuild yet. Many years later, my major advisor from graduate school published a personal memoir of sorts [into the Fire by Siegfried Streufert]. His father was one of the anti-Nazi senators who went back home to Northern Germany in the mid 1930's (?) and was then part of the resistance. Siegfried tells of what it was like as a child living under the threat of bombers, and then later the frustration that the Allied troops didn't understand that many Germans saw them as liberators, not as conquerors. Bob, the graphic you shared really brings back those stories and is a reminder that this wasn't a sometimes thing, but that everyone was at risk in every neighborhood for months and months and months. A horrible way to live and a testament to universal stupidity. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
Nice image! That does look like a tight location. Most bike lanes here are wider, and between the parking lane and the travel lane, rather than between the curb and the parking lane. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:26 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I ~hate~ the curb lane! Pedestrians stepping out without looking. Motor vehicles pulling over without looking. And worst of all, the dreaded door prize. Of course the law is that cars are supposed to signal, pull over and check to make sure the way is clear before throwing open a door. However being in the right is small consolation when you catch the pointy corner or a door in the chest. Unfortunately sometimes we're forced into the curb lane, as Chad is here: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/working-conditions.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
Chris, That's a tragic twist of fate. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 8 December 2012 08:37, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B Very interesting Bob. A sad story: My mother's family was living in Devon and they had a little girl from the East End billeted with them as part of the evacuation of children. Her father, a docker, came to visit and she innocently told him to take his elbows off the table as it was bad manners. He said something like I'm not having my daughter growing up with middle class airs and graces. He took the girl back home with him. After the war my mother tried to track them down and heard that the whole family had been wiped out by a direct hit on their Anderson shelter a couple of days later. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG now up. Enjoy!
Marnie, Thanks, Stan is approaching his 91st birthday and is suffering a great deal from COPD. He has been a active and enjoyable addition to family events. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:25 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Ditto. But... I also really like Old Tools by Chris Mitchell, I think it's my favorite (and also monochromish). Old tools framed in an old window and nicely abstracted. Stan's 90th by Bob Sullivan is a nice portrait and Stan looks very lively for his age. The funniest is Long Term Parking by Ken Waller -- I had to look at it twice to get it. Made me laugh. Others are nice too, these just the ones that jumped out at me (and those mentioned below as well). Nice PUG. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/7/2012 3:19:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: Dario's Steam is superb. Also really like Anne's Last Days of the Minewaska Mountain House and Matthew Hunt's Entrance Lamp, Mine 40 Wash House I'm a sucker for well-done BW. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - My Generation
Thanks, but I can't take credit for the composition. I just looked down and the magazines were there. That's all I could fit into the viewfinder as I was sitting there. I suppose I could have moved... or stood up... or something. It just seemed like one of the chance happenings where the universe may be trying to tell you something. :-) GS George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:21 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: LOL. Me too. LOL. (Although he is a tad older than me, but what the heck.) Marnie :-) In a message dated 12/5/2012 9:03:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, gsi...@gmail.com writes: http://georges.posterous.com/my-generation -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
All your questions can be answered by three simple words. Because they can. On 12/9/2012 6:07 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Now everywhere I can hear them talking about stuff like growth or doubling the sales in 2013. I'm hearing they hired back RD engineers, to make up for those fired by Hoya. They have 2-years roadmaps totaling 8 K-mount lenses + 1 TC, 4 645D ones and 3 for Q; and, most important, they're on track with the execution. Alex, respectfully, I don't have that kind of insider information on Pentax, so where do you obtain it? If their road map doesn't contain a 24 MP APS-C body, a FF body and lenses, then they're missing the boat. I'm sure the market for either of those two cameras would dwarf the market for a 645D or a Q. Tom, You've mentioned 24 MP a few times. How large are you printing that you need 24MP? Also, what APS-C camera has that resolution? 4000x6000 pixels, on a 16x24mm sensor, that gives 4um on a side for a pixel. Using the diffraction calculator at: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm f/2.8 has an Airy Diameter of 3.7 um or about 1 pixel f/5.6 has an Airy Diameter of 7.5 um or about 2 pixel f/8 has an Airy Diameter of 10.7 um or about 2.5 pixel The page says: As a result of the sensor's anti-aliasing filter (and the Rayleigh criterion above), an airy disk can have a diameter of about 2-3 pixels before diffraction limits resolution (assuming an otherwise perfect lens). However, diffraction will likely have a visual impact prior to reaching this diameter. In other words, with an AA filter, a 24MP APS-C lens will definitely be diffraction limited by f/8.0. Without an AA filter, assuming that the lens is sharp enough, diffraction is probably having an effect by f/4 or f/5.6. 4um is 250/mm, which I understand works out to 125 lp/mm. Looking at DxOmark http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-35mm-f14G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 35/1.4 52 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-50mm-F18G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 50/1.8 53lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-DX-Micro-NIKKOR-40mm-F28G/(camera)/680 Nikkor 40/2.8 is 49lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/smc-D-FA-MACRO-100mm-F2.8-WR/(camera)/676 Pentax DFA macro 100/2.8 is 46 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/Pentax-smc-DA-35mm-F28-Macro-Limited/(camera)/676 Pentax DA 35/2.8 macro is 46 lp/mm It seems as if you want a sensor that has approximately twice the resolution of a very good prime lens, which correlates roughly with the Nyquist rate, which would mean that you would never need an anti-aliasing filter, because even without getting into diffraction limiting, you're already past the Nyquist rate. Is this why you feel that 24 MP is so necessary in an APS sensor camera? Bay photo seems to use 250 dpi as a print resolution: http://www.bayphoto.com/bayweb/pro_fileprep.htm Which, interestingly works out to 16x24 inches. However using the scaling of the graph they use for Minimum Pixel size to yield good prints, they seem to work with about five printer dots per pixel, which means that with a 4000x6000 sensor, you should be able to print at 80x100 inches. How often do you make prints that large? On the other hand, lower resolution would give more surface area per pixel, which would increase both dynamic range, and signal to noise ratio. In my photography, I find myself running up against these two far more often than I run out of resolution in printing. By Bay Photo's chart, my K-5's 14 MP is good for something like a 60x80 inch print. A 5x7 for people who measure their prints in feet, rather than inches. I might be missing something here, because I've never printed much larger than 18x24. Although you implied market forces require that sort of resolution, which means that the average photographer who uses their SLR as an expensive point and shoot is printing that large. Or, are you just saying that it is one of those marketing things, where people aren't satisfied with less than 300 cubic inches of displacement in their car's engine, whether or not the customer would ever use the power, or whether or not a car with a much smaller engine would outperform it? As I see it, I'm either not technically inclined enough, and I am totally missing the analysis of why16MP, or even 12, is not enough, and why a camera needs 24 MP in order to be marketable. Or, it could be that I'm far too much of a geek, and am missing something critical by only looking at the physics of the situation. The latter is quite possible, because I also can't understand why suburban housewives in Coastal California where it never snows, need a 5,000 pound four
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
Marnie, Pretty damned good for a 'mediocre' shot! The light, the shapes, and the prickly points are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Most of the current entry level APS-C DSLRs are 16-18 Megapixels. The new Nikon D3200 is 24 Megapixels. For the most part it's marketing. Most consumers will never know the difference. Most won't make anything bigger than an occasional 8x10, if they print at all. Those that crop their photos will appreciate the extra pixels. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Now everywhere I can hear them talking about stuff like growth or doubling the sales in 2013. I'm hearing they hired back RD engineers, to make up for those fired by Hoya. They have 2-years roadmaps totaling 8 K-mount lenses + 1 TC, 4 645D ones and 3 for Q; and, most important, they're on track with the execution. Alex, respectfully, I don't have that kind of insider information on Pentax, so where do you obtain it? If their road map doesn't contain a 24 MP APS-C body, a FF body and lenses, then they're missing the boat. I'm sure the market for either of those two cameras would dwarf the market for a 645D or a Q. Tom, You've mentioned 24 MP a few times. How large are you printing that you need 24MP? Also, what APS-C camera has that resolution? 4000x6000 pixels, on a 16x24mm sensor, that gives 4um on a side for a pixel. Using the diffraction calculator at: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm f/2.8 has an Airy Diameter of 3.7 um or about 1 pixel f/5.6 has an Airy Diameter of 7.5 um or about 2 pixel f/8 has an Airy Diameter of 10.7 um or about 2.5 pixel The page says: As a result of the sensor's anti-aliasing filter (and the Rayleigh criterion above), an airy disk can have a diameter of about 2-3 pixels before diffraction limits resolution (assuming an otherwise perfect lens). However, diffraction will likely have a visual impact prior to reaching this diameter. In other words, with an AA filter, a 24MP APS-C lens will definitely be diffraction limited by f/8.0. Without an AA filter, assuming that the lens is sharp enough, diffraction is probably having an effect by f/4 or f/5.6. 4um is 250/mm, which I understand works out to 125 lp/mm. Looking at DxOmark http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-35mm-f14G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 35/1.4 52 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-50mm-F18G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 50/1.8 53lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-DX-Micro-NIKKOR-40mm-F28G/(camera)/680 Nikkor 40/2.8 is 49lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/smc-D-FA-MACRO-100mm-F2.8-WR/(camera)/676 Pentax DFA macro 100/2.8 is 46 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/Pentax-smc-DA-35mm-F28-Macro-Limited/(camera)/676 Pentax DA 35/2.8 macro is 46 lp/mm It seems as if you want a sensor that has approximately twice the resolution of a very good prime lens, which correlates roughly with the Nyquist rate, which would mean that you would never need an anti-aliasing filter, because even without getting into diffraction limiting, you're already past the Nyquist rate. Is this why you feel that 24 MP is so necessary in an APS sensor camera? Bay photo seems to use 250 dpi as a print resolution: http://www.bayphoto.com/bayweb/pro_fileprep.htm Which, interestingly works out to 16x24 inches. However using the scaling of the graph they use for Minimum Pixel size to yield good prints, they seem to work with about five printer dots per pixel, which means that with a 4000x6000 sensor, you should be able to print at 80x100 inches. How often do you make prints that large? On the other hand, lower resolution would give more surface area per pixel, which would increase both dynamic range, and signal to noise ratio. In my photography, I find myself running up against these two far more often than I run out of resolution in printing. By Bay Photo's chart, my K-5's 14 MP is good for something like a 60x80 inch print. A 5x7 for people who measure their prints in feet, rather than inches. I might be missing something here, because I've never printed much larger than 18x24. Although you implied market forces require that sort of resolution, which means that the average photographer who uses their SLR as an expensive point and shoot is printing that large. Or, are you just saying that it is one of those marketing things, where people aren't satisfied with less than 300 cubic inches of displacement in their car's engine, whether or not the customer would ever use the power, or whether or not a car with a much smaller engine would outperform it? As I see it, I'm either not
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
Thanks! Well, this is probably one of the better one for the last two years. Although I took a lot of this particular clump and just randomly picked out this shot as the best. I just meant, I haven't shot anything special, artistic, or different in a l-o-n-g time. Haven't stretched myself. Just taken ordinary shots of ordinary things. Anyway, they look ordinary to me. The Ruth Bancroft Garden, though, turned out to be rather special all by itself. We made a running stop, but I could have stayed for hours (with my tripod, which I didn't have). Three acres of succulents (I guess cactus are succulents). Cacti are great for photography... they are so geometric. Thanks, Jack, Dave, Dan, Gerrit, and, you Bob, for your comments and to all who looked. Marnie :-) --- In a message dated 12/9/2012 7:38:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, Pretty damned good for a 'mediocre' shot! The light, the shapes, and the prickly points are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Larry, you wonder why more megapixels? I appreciate your analysis of pixel size, diffraction issues, etc. (really, I do), but I think you missed the key underlying element: it is all a conspiracy between the camera vendors and manufacturers of hard drive storage units. You also say ...I also can't understand why suburban housewives in Coastal California where it never snows, need a 5,000 pound four wheel drive SUV, that seats eight, has a 6 liter motor that puts out 300 hp. This is an example of great forethought and a demonstration of the purchasing acumen of American consumers; after all, someday during the 3-5 year lifespan of the vehicle they may have a bunch of kids and may want to drive to Lake Tahoe for a ski weekend and they may need the 4WD. Buying for that possibility means that they avoid regret later. And they avoid the expense of a weekend rental vehicle. And besides, it looks cool. stan On Dec 9, 2012, at 6:07 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Now everywhere I can hear them talking about stuff like growth or doubling the sales in 2013. I'm hearing they hired back RD engineers, to make up for those fired by Hoya. They have 2-years roadmaps totaling 8 K-mount lenses + 1 TC, 4 645D ones and 3 for Q; and, most important, they're on track with the execution. Alex, respectfully, I don't have that kind of insider information on Pentax, so where do you obtain it? If their road map doesn't contain a 24 MP APS-C body, a FF body and lenses, then they're missing the boat. I'm sure the market for either of those two cameras would dwarf the market for a 645D or a Q. Tom, You've mentioned 24 MP a few times. How large are you printing that you need 24MP? Also, what APS-C camera has that resolution? 4000x6000 pixels, on a 16x24mm sensor, that gives 4um on a side for a pixel. Using the diffraction calculator at: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm f/2.8 has an Airy Diameter of 3.7 um or about 1 pixel f/5.6 has an Airy Diameter of 7.5 um or about 2 pixel f/8 has an Airy Diameter of 10.7 um or about 2.5 pixel The page says: As a result of the sensor's anti-aliasing filter (and the Rayleigh criterion above), an airy disk can have a diameter of about 2-3 pixels before diffraction limits resolution (assuming an otherwise perfect lens). However, diffraction will likely have a visual impact prior to reaching this diameter. In other words, with an AA filter, a 24MP APS-C lens will definitely be diffraction limited by f/8.0. Without an AA filter, assuming that the lens is sharp enough, diffraction is probably having an effect by f/4 or f/5.6. 4um is 250/mm, which I understand works out to 125 lp/mm. Looking at DxOmark http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-35mm-f14G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 35/1.4 52 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-50mm-F18G/(camera)/485 Nikkor 50/1.8 53lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Nikon/Nikon-AF-S-DX-Micro-NIKKOR-40mm-F28G/(camera)/680 Nikkor 40/2.8 is 49lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/smc-D-FA-MACRO-100mm-F2.8-WR/(camera)/676 Pentax DFA macro 100/2.8 is 46 lp/mm http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en.../Lenses/Camera-Lens-Database/Pentax/Pentax-smc-DA-35mm-F28-Macro-Limited/(camera)/676 Pentax DA 35/2.8 macro is 46 lp/mm It seems as if you want a sensor that has approximately twice the resolution of a very good prime lens, which correlates roughly with the Nyquist rate, which would mean that you would never need an anti-aliasing filter, because even without getting into diffraction limiting, you're already past the Nyquist rate. Is this why you feel that 24 MP is so necessary in an APS sensor camera? Bay photo seems to use 250 dpi as a print resolution: http://www.bayphoto.com/bayweb/pro_fileprep.htm Which, interestingly works out to 16x24 inches. However using the scaling of the graph they use for Minimum Pixel size to yield good prints, they seem to work with about five printer dots per pixel, which means that with a 4000x6000 sensor, you should be able to print at 80x100 inches. How often do you make prints that large? On the other hand, lower resolution would give more surface area per pixel, which would increase both dynamic range, and signal to noise ratio. In my photography, I find myself running up against these two far more often than I run out of resolution in printing. By Bay Photo's chart, my K-5's 14 MP is good for something like a 60x80 inch print. A 5x7 for people who measure their prints in feet, rather than inches. I might be missing something here, because I've never printed much larger than 18x24. Although you implied
Files reduced in size when attached to email
I've discovered that large-ish jpg files---740 KB---are significantly reduced in size---10K---when attached to and sent with an email message. Is this normal? Is there any way it can be avoided? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How do I determine the resolution---dpi---of an image?
I've had a request that I send an image that's at least 300 dpi. I have an image shot at 1/180 at ISO 400. I have LR 3. Is there a way in it to determine the resolution/dpi---I'm assuming they are equivalent---of an image? Is there a way to control the resolution/dpi when exporting the image? Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
Check the settings on your email client. Mine allows the choice of several different attachment size limits, and IIRC the default was for small files. Depending on your ISP, they could be the culprits but I would check your mail program settings first. stan On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I've discovered that large-ish jpg files---740 KB---are significantly reduced in size---10K---when attached to and sent with an email message. Is this normal? Is there any way it can be avoided? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
On 2012-12-09 11:35, Eric Weir wrote: I've discovered that large-ish jpg files---740 KB---are significantly reduced in size---10K---when attached to and sent with an email message. Is this normal? Is there any way it can be avoided? Where do you see the difference in the attached file? Has it already been reduced in size before sending the email? Then it's happening in your email client and that's where you'll find any avoidance measures. If you're not noticing it until after it's been received by someone, it could be happening at any of several points along the way. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Distraction
Looking at other ways of looking. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16657172size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do I determine the resolution---dpi---of an image?
Resolution, dots per inch, is meaningless on its own. If you know the target size, then you can calculate the number of dots you need (eg, 8x10 would be 2400x3000 dots = 7,200,000 dots). Which more or less translates to a file of 7.2mb. But a 1x2 image only needs 300x600= roughly 180kb. LR allows you to specify dpi when printing and it allows you to specify file output size when doing an Export. But you need to know the target print size, and you need to do the calculation to determine the necessary file size. stan On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I've had a request that I send an image that's at least 300 dpi. I have an image shot at 1/180 at ISO 400. I have LR 3. Is there a way in it to determine the resolution/dpi---I'm assuming they are equivalent---of an image? Is there a way to control the resolution/dpi when exporting the image? Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
Again, you did a great job on composing this random array of closely grouped succulents. Takes acuity. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:28 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly Thanks! Well, this is probably one of the better one for the last two years. Although I took a lot of this particular clump and just randomly picked out this shot as the best. I just meant, I haven't shot anything special, artistic, or different in a l-o-n-g time. Haven't stretched myself. Just taken ordinary shots of ordinary things. Anyway, they look ordinary to me. The Ruth Bancroft Garden, though, turned out to be rather special all by itself. We made a running stop, but I could have stayed for hours (with my tripod, which I didn't have). Three acres of succulents (I guess cactus are succulents). Cacti are great for photography... they are so geometric. Thanks, Jack, Dave, Dan, Gerrit, and, you Bob, for your comments and to all who looked. Marnie :-) --- In a message dated 12/9/2012 7:38:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, Pretty damned good for a 'mediocre' shot! The light, the shapes, and the prickly points are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do I determine the resolution---dpi---of an image?
You're going to have to tell us how big a print they'll be making before we can calculate DPI. On 12/9/2012 11:35 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I've had a request that I send an image that's at least 300 dpi. I have an image shot at 1/180 at ISO 400. I have LR 3. Is there a way in it to determine the resolution/dpi---I'm assuming they are equivalent---of an image? Is there a way to control the resolution/dpi when exporting the image? Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do I determine the resolution---dpi---of an image?
Eric Weir wrote: I've had a request that I send an image that's at least 300 dpi. I have an image shot at 1/180 at ISO 400. Uh oh. This sounds like a request from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Output resolution (which is in pixels per inch, not dots per inch) is independent of image dimensions (in pixels). You need to ask them for either the pixel dimensions they want (which they probably won't know) of what their intended print size is (in inches or centimeters). I have LR 3. Is there a way in it to determine the resolution/dpi --- I'm assuming they are equivalent---of an image? Is there a way to control the resolution/dpi when exporting the image? You can control everything in the Export dialog. The parts of the Export dialog are as follows (scrolling from top to bottom): * Export location * File Naming * Video * File settings (file format, color space, bit depth, etc.) * Image sizing * Sharpening * Metadata * Watermarking * Post-processing The first two items are at your own discretion. The third is non-applicable. File settings should, unless the recipient specifies otherwise, be JPEG file format, sRGB color space, high quality (how high is up to you) Image sizing is where you set parameters for the pixel dimensions of your exported image. You know that the output resolution needs to be 300 ppi (though it really doesn't matter - the recipient can change it to any value they like) but you don't know what actual dimensions in pixels or inches are required. This is the information you need to get from the person you're sending the image to. (I'd leave sharpening off and skip the Metadata, Watermarking and Post-processing sections for this.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
I like this quite a lot. Interesting and nicely composed. The perspective distortion is a plus here. Paul On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Again, you did a great job on composing this random array of closely grouped succulents. Takes acuity. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:28 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly Thanks! Well, this is probably one of the better one for the last two years. Although I took a lot of this particular clump and just randomly picked out this shot as the best. I just meant, I haven't shot anything special, artistic, or different in a l-o-n-g time. Haven't stretched myself. Just taken ordinary shots of ordinary things. Anyway, they look ordinary to me. The Ruth Bancroft Garden, though, turned out to be rather special all by itself. We made a running stop, but I could have stayed for hours (with my tripod, which I didn't have). Three acres of succulents (I guess cactus are succulents). Cacti are great for photography... they are so geometric. Thanks, Jack, Dave, Dan, Gerrit, and, you Bob, for your comments and to all who looked. Marnie :-) --- In a message dated 12/9/2012 7:38:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, Pretty damned good for a 'mediocre' shot! The light, the shapes, and the prickly points are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: Check the settings on your email client. Mine allows the choice of several different attachment size limits, and IIRC the default was for small files. Depending on your ISP, they could be the culprits but I would check your mail program settings first. Thanks, Stan. Don't find anything related to that in my email client [Apple Mail]. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Where do you see the difference in the attached file? Has it already been reduced in size before sending the email? Then it's happening in your email client and that's where you'll find any avoidance measures. Thanks, Doug. That's where it happens. But I don't find any setting related to that. I'm able to upload images to the web without apparent loss of size. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
If you're email client is actually resizing your Jpegs I'd look into a different email client. You have no idea what criteria or how good the jpeg engine was that the client decided to use. A good client will warn you that the attachment is too large, not decide for you and then alter the attachment based on some arbitrary set of rules decided by a programmer who has no idea what your intentions are. On 12/9/2012 12:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Where do you see the difference in the attached file? Has it already been reduced in size before sending the email? Then it's happening in your email client and that's where you'll find any avoidance measures. Thanks, Doug. That's where it happens. But I don't find any setting related to that. I'm able to upload images to the web without apparent loss of size. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Another Lewis (messenger content)
Yes, blurry. But I like the smile: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/11/another-lewis.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
~Amongst~ your exceptions are... ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cameras and Photography On 6/12/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Never has been, for me. I care deeply what equipment I use, but brand name is the last reason I'd ever give for wanting a particular piece of equipment. If one brand doesn't make what I am looking for, well, I just look elsewhere. Agreed. With one exception for me. Land Rover. And Apple. Two - two exceptions for me. And Levi's. That's three - three exceptions for me and no more. And Fender. Oh shit... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Long Exposure Rule of Thumb
I was listening to one of the many photography podcasts recently and heard someone mention this estimating technique. He said he likes to make his night exposures at ISO 100 to minimize noise, but zeroing in on the exposure time at that low ISO can take a long time. So, he makes his initial exposures at ISO 6400. It turns out that the exposures length in seconds at 6400 is pretty close to the length in minutes at ISO 100. For example, a 10 second exposure at ISO 6400 would work out to a 10 minute exposure at ISO 100. Making the initial estimated exposure time at 6400 reduces the number of test exposures he needs to make at ISO 100. I had to make a little spreadsheet to convince myself. It's not exact, but the error is relatively small. Probably less than is necessary to give you a good starting point at the lower ISO. I don't do a lot of night or long exposure stuff and maybe this is common knowledge to those that do. I've been around a long time and heard a lot of rules, but this one was new to me. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
It might not be your email client. Are you mailing from within another program like Photoshop Elements? The email functions on several of those programs have options that compress the file before attaching it to your email. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:29 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: If you're email client is actually resizing your Jpegs I'd look into a different email client. You have no idea what criteria or how good the jpeg engine was that the client decided to use. A good client will warn you that the attachment is too large, not decide for you and then alter the attachment based on some arbitrary set of rules decided by a programmer who has no idea what your intentions are. On 12/9/2012 12:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Where do you see the difference in the attached file? Has it already been reduced in size before sending the email? Then it's happening in your email client and that's where you'll find any avoidance measures. Thanks, Doug. That's where it happens. But I don't find any setting related to that. I'm able to upload images to the web without apparent loss of size. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
Suffers from Theriaultian blur? If it suffers it's another type of blur, by definition! ;-) The camera focused on the cars. But as I looked at the photo I liked how the cyclists are a bit soft (or.blurry); that's kind of how we feel sometimes, almost invisible to motorists. So I thought it works. Others may have differing opinions. :-) Thanks for the comments, Marnie. Glad you enjoyed the hats blog. Haven't really contributed much to that lately. Have a few hat pix kicking around but I've been concentrating on the messenger stuff lately. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content) He's definitely watching that door. When I studied for my driver's license renewal last year (which later I found out I didn't need to do, no test that time around) I found out the #1 cause of bicycle accidents in the US is motorists opening their doors without looking. Or that is what they said and now you are confirming it. I am much more careful about opening my car door now. Okay shot, frank, suffers a little from Theriaultian blur, but the I like his look of anxiety (or preparedness, hard to tell). Hey, haven't seen this before, Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats. Great! (There's one that's almost bunny ears too.) HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) - In a message dated 12/8/2012 6:26:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: I ~hate~ the curb lane! Pedestrians stepping out without looking. Motor vehicles pulling over without looking. And worst of all, the dreaded door prize. Of course the law is that cars are supposed to signal, pull over and check to make sure the way is clear before throwing open a door. However being in the right is small consolation when you catch the pointy corner or a door in the chest. Unfortunately sometimes we're forced into the curb lane, as Chad is here: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/working-conditions.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
I think that's a wonderful photo! Composition, colour, subject matter; a different and interesting take. Very good photo! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Files reduced in size when attached to email
It is almost certain to be the email client at the sending end but it is Apple so not sure. This link provides some suggestions to avoid or control the resizing. Outlook on Windows has options that you can set and even then you can tell it to give you a choice each time. There is no way that your ISP will resize anything. It is the sender or receiving email program doing the harm. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: December 9, 2012 12:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email If you're email client is actually resizing your Jpegs I'd look into a different email client. You have no idea what criteria or how good the jpeg engine was that the client decided to use. A good client will warn you that the attachment is too large, not decide for you and then alter the attachment based on some arbitrary set of rules decided by a programmer who has no idea what your intentions are. On 12/9/2012 12:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Where do you see the difference in the attached file? Has it already been reduced in size before sending the email? Then it's happening in your email client and that's where you'll find any avoidance measures. Thanks, Doug. That's where it happens. But I don't find any setting related to that. I'm able to upload images to the web without apparent loss of size. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb
That seems to make sense - 100:6400 = 1:60 as near as dammit B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of George Sinos Sent: 09 December 2012 17:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb I was listening to one of the many photography podcasts recently and heard someone mention this estimating technique. He said he likes to make his night exposures at ISO 100 to minimize noise, but zeroing in on the exposure time at that low ISO can take a long time. So, he makes his initial exposures at ISO 6400. It turns out that the exposures length in seconds at 6400 is pretty close to the length in minutes at ISO 100. For example, a 10 second exposure at ISO 6400 would work out to a 10 minute exposure at ISO 100. Making the initial estimated exposure time at 6400 reduces the number of test exposures he needs to make at ISO 100. I had to make a little spreadsheet to convince myself. It's not exact, but the error is relatively small. Probably less than is necessary to give you a good starting point at the lower ISO. I don't do a lot of night or long exposure stuff and maybe this is common knowledge to those that do. I've been around a long time and heard a lot of rules, but this one was new to me. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW153 - Seed
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, D FA 100mm macro, f/7.1, 1/80s, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Cameras and Photography
Larry, you wonder why more megapixels? I appreciate your analysis of pixel size, diffraction issues, etc. (really, I do), but I think you missed the key underlying element: it is all a conspiracy between the camera vendors and manufacturers of hard drive storage units. You also say ...I also can't understand why suburban housewives in Coastal California where it never snows, need a 5,000 pound four wheel drive SUV, that seats eight, has a 6 liter motor that puts out 300 hp. This is an example of great forethought and a demonstration of the purchasing acumen of American consumers; after all, someday during the 3-5 year lifespan of the vehicle they may have a bunch of kids and may want to drive to Lake Tahoe for a ski weekend and they may need the 4WD. Buying for that possibility means that they avoid regret later. And they avoid the expense of a weekend rental vehicle. And besides, it looks cool. stan That's why I have a Lear jet parked in front of my house, but cycle to work. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The origins of art criticism
:-) --- Original Message --- From: Postmaster postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: The origins of art criticism http://youtu.be/CUTGC5N7hCI -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PAW153 - Seed
Yes indeed. So very Dag in a wonderfully minimalist sort of way! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW153 - Seed http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, D FA 100mm macro, f/7.1, 1/80s, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Snapseed now available for Android and iOS version now FREE
Returning to the product ... I've been using the new version of Snapseed for a few days now. Overall, it's pretty similar, aside from the new integrated Boogleplx photo nonsense. The biggest thing that changed for my use is that now the frames section has a greatly expanded set of options, which are much nicer than the previous ones. The only small downside to this is that they seem to have removed any of the adjustability of the old frames section. Not a problem since the new ones are better than the old ones, but I do dislike that they've removed an adjustment capability. Onwards we go ... -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2012 - 135 - GDG
From yesterday, while on a walking tour of classic homes in Santa Clara, CA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258579528/lightbox enjoy! thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
From: Eactivist He's definitely watching that door. When I studied for my driver's license renewal last year (which later I found out I didn't need to do, no test that time around) I found out the #1 cause of bicycle accidents in the US is motorists opening their doors without looking. Or that is what they said and now you are confirming it. I am much more careful about opening my car door now. The best reason to look before opening your door is not that some guy on a bicycle might get hurt when he runs into it, but that some other motorist might run over you while you're trying to get out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb
It's a neat trick, I like it. One addition: I modify the low ISO setting to accommodate a maximum exposure length of between 2 and 4 minutes. This seems to make the best images for me, and fits within most of the SLR-class sensors' maximum exposure length restrictions, for those cameras I own that have them. G On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: That seems to make sense - 100:6400 = 1:60 as near as dammit B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of George Sinos Sent: 09 December 2012 17:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb I was listening to one of the many photography podcasts recently and heard someone mention this estimating technique. He said he likes to make his night exposures at ISO 100 to minimize noise, but zeroing in on the exposure time at that low ISO can take a long time. So, he makes his initial exposures at ISO 6400. It turns out that the exposures length in seconds at 6400 is pretty close to the length in minutes at ISO 100. For example, a 10 second exposure at ISO 6400 would work out to a 10 minute exposure at ISO 100. Making the initial estimated exposure time at 6400 reduces the number of test exposures he needs to make at ISO 100. I had to make a little spreadsheet to convince myself. It's not exact, but the error is relatively small. Probably less than is necessary to give you a good starting point at the lower ISO. I don't do a lot of night or long exposure stuff and maybe this is common knowledge to those that do. I've been around a long time and heard a lot of rules, but this one was new to me. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
on 2012-12-09 10:20 Eric Weir wrote Thanks, Stan. Don't find anything related to that in my email client [Apple Mail]. in Apple Mail, it is an option right in the mail composition window, e.g.: https://www.dropbox.com/s/18s8rvow6zi0cnu/mail_image_size.png -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The origins of art criticism
From: Postmaster http://youtu.be/CUTGC5N7hCI OMFG! The RAF Sketches -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Everything can be an exception for me. Sigh ... I fear more Magpie Syndrome pending. Out shooting with the Balda Baldix yesterday morning. Then with the Leica X2 in the afternoon. Even a snap or three with the iPhone 4S. They're all cameras. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: ~Amongst~ your exceptions are... --- Original Message --- From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cameras and Photography On 6/12/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Never has been, for me. I care deeply what equipment I use, but brand name is the last reason I'd ever give for wanting a particular piece of equipment. If one brand doesn't make what I am looking for, well, I just look elsewhere. Agreed. With one exception for me. Land Rover. And Apple. Two - two exceptions for me. And Levi's. That's three - three exceptions for me and no more. And Fender. Oh shit... -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
For the Film is Dead?? file
Ilford has introduced two new disposable cameras shooting BW film. One comes loaded with XP2 and the other HP5. I have no idea who would buy such things, I mean their lenses will probably be too good and have fewer light leeks than lomograhers would want, and anyone else wanting to shoot BW 35mm film could pick up a whole 35mm film outfit for less than the cost of bucket of dirt these days... -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For the Film is Dead?? file
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ilford has introduced two new disposable cameras shooting BW film. One comes loaded with XP2 and the other HP5. I have no idea who would buy such things, I mean their lenses will probably be too good and have fewer light leeks than lomograhers would want, and anyone else wanting to shoot BW 35mm film could pick up a whole 35mm film outfit for less than the cost of bucket of dirt these days... Have faith in the amusing irrationality of the human race. I'm betting that they'll sell well. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
I can see it now ... new advertising campaign Buy NEW! [insert brand name and model here] It's got all the stuff your old camera has and nothing else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
Hey, John, I was going to write a two word reply to you, but decided that discretion might be a good idea right now, angry as I am. If you thought your post was funny, it's not. Your response is provocative to all cyclists on this list and quite frankly, just mean spirited. Have a great day, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content) From: Eactivist He's definitely watching that door. When I studied for my driver's license renewal last year (which later I found out I didn't need to do, no test that time around) I found out the #1 cause of bicycle accidents in the US is motorists opening their doors without looking. Or that is what they said and now you are confirming it. I am much more careful about opening my car door now. The best reason to look before opening your door is not that some guy on a bicycle might get hurt when he runs into it, but that some other motorist might run over you while you're trying to get out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
640K ought to be enough for anyone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb
On 2012-12-09 12:58, Bob W wrote: That seems to make sense - 100:6400 = 1:60 as near as dammit So, do digital sensors not suffer reciprocity failure, or not to the extent that film does? -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
That's a nice mediocre shot, Marnie, and would feel at home with the images that are offered on Windows to use as desktop backgrounds. Whether this is praise or not, I will leave up to you to decide ;-) Cheers! —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 9 December 2012 00:58, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
Is the email client resizing the jpegs, or is it just compressing the attachments before sending them? And is this somehow related to the request for a file at 300dpi? And I wonder if this has anything to do with the request for From: P. J. Alling If you're email client is actually resizing your Jpegs I'd look into a different email client. You have no idea what criteria or how good the jpeg engine was that the client decided to use. A good client will warn you that the attachment is too large, not decide for you and then alter the attachment based on some arbitrary set of rules decided by a programmer who has no idea what your intentions are. On 12/9/2012 12:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Where do you see the difference in the attached file? Has it already been reduced in size before sending the email? Then it's happening in your email client and that's where you'll find any avoidance measures. Thanks, Doug. That's where it happens. But I don't find any setting related to that. I'm able to upload images to the web without apparent loss of size. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Distraction
Sure is - Nice capture Paul. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - Distraction Looking at other ways of looking. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16657172size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb
Another good one for night sky is divide 600 by the focal length of the lens to get the maximum exposure time that makes the stars still look like dots. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi It's a neat trick, I like it. One addition: I modify the low ISO setting to accommodate a maximum exposure length of between 2 and 4 minutes. This seems to make the best images for me, and fits within most of the SLR-class sensors' maximum exposure length restrictions, for those cameras I own that have them. G On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: That seems to make sense - 100:6400 = 1:60 as near as dammit B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of George Sinos Sent: 09 December 2012 17:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb I was listening to one of the many photography podcasts recently and heard someone mention this estimating technique. He said he likes to make his night exposures at ISO 100 to minimize noise, but zeroing in on the exposure time at that low ISO can take a long time. So, he makes his initial exposures at ISO 6400. It turns out that the exposures length in seconds at 6400 is pretty close to the length in minutes at ISO 100. For example, a 10 second exposure at ISO 6400 would work out to a 10 minute exposure at ISO 100. Making the initial estimated exposure time at 6400 reduces the number of test exposures he needs to make at ISO 100. I had to make a little spreadsheet to convince myself. It's not exact, but the error is relatively small. Probably less than is necessary to give you a good starting point at the lower ISO. I don't do a lot of night or long exposure stuff and maybe this is common knowledge to those that do. I've been around a long time and heard a lot of rules, but this one was new to me. gs George Sinos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO 2012 - 135 - GDG
Very nicely composed and printed. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 09 December 2012 18:20 To: PAW Picture-A-Week project; SeePhoto Talk; BAPhotoShooters BAPA; PDML List Subject: PESO 2012 - 135 - GDG From yesterday, while on a walking tour of classic homes in Santa Clara, CA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258579528/lightbox enjoy! thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO first snow
Yesterday we had out first day with snow. Today it's gone: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow Thanks for watching, Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO first snow
Toine, Branches against the sky on that last one look pretty good. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Yesterday we had out first day with snow. Today it's gone: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow Thanks for watching, Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO first snow
Prachtig! Wise getting up early for the lighting, the long shadow on #3 is wonderful. #2 it loooks as if the trees are greeting the morning sun, the slight lean in that direction makes it. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Toine Sent: December 9, 2012 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO first snow Yesterday we had out first day with snow. Today it's gone: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow Thanks for watching, Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Distraction
What Ken said! Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:07 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Sure is - Nice capture Paul. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - Distraction Looking at other ways of looking. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16657172size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2012 - 136 - GDG
Another new photo, this one made in Vancouver last weekend ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258596436/lightbox Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO first snow
The third one is lovely, Toine! Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Yesterday we had out first day with snow. Today it's gone: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow Thanks for watching, Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO first snow
:) Actually late afternoon light. Captured with the 18-135 which creates lots of CA, LR removes it all with a single click. On 9 December 2012 20:45, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Prachtig! Wise getting up early for the lighting, the long shadow on #3 is wonderful. #2 it loooks as if the trees are greeting the morning sun, the slight lean in that direction makes it. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Toine Sent: December 9, 2012 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO first snow Yesterday we had out first day with snow. Today it's gone: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow Thanks for watching, Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Reply interspersed... On 12/7/2012 6:36 PM, Tom C wrote: Well if you want to get technical about it Boris... :) Well, it is my hobby, so I'd rather we did not go too technical, if you catch my drift here, Tom... It's my opinion that what we see with Pentax right now, in their lack of new products that solidly compete with the competition on multiple levels, is that they are simply doing all they can at the moment with limited resources. They're not dead, but you can provide a word if you like... Well, you may be right. It is being my opinion as well that as of few years ago Pentax virtually stopped innovating and turned towards the design/appeal dimension trying to carve for themselves new market niches where they could collect the dividends. It would even seem (to me now) that the most recent price plunges they had to take are to some extent a proof to the above idea. Given that very often fashionable/designer clothes cost more not because they are more useful or more functional but rather by being of that specific new fab design, so high were the prices of Pentax Q and Pentax K-01. Again, it is my personal view that both cameras were in fact a waste of some very valuable engineering resources within the company. Granted, Q sells good in Japan and Japan is indeed a very big market, but there are other markets out there. Well, never mind, I don't intend to question the marketing decisions of the guys in the mothership... No FF 24 X 36mm body. No Mirrorless ILC or EVIL body save for one being sold at 50% discount No high end large sensor compact Let me summarize it for you, please. Here goes: no response to innovative products by the competing companies. The last really fab move was 645D. But it took lots of time and it was some time ago while both market and the competitors move on. They're really only competing in the APS-C arena and that's about it. The 645D is just about out of everyone's price range including mine. Was it ever relevant? It was. Because if they could market it properly it gave image to the company. There was time that all Renault cars sold in Israel had markings of that Formula 1 team or whatever racing Renault is involved in. Obviously not the racing cars, these Renaults were, but the impression was there and it was in a sense attractive. Additionally, it did give Pentax the complete product line in terms of various market segments. If you're a true pro and want to shoot Pentax - 645D was (and still is) for you. It is mighty capable camera (or at least this is what I've been gathering from the photographs I've been seeing from it). But Pentax chose to fragment their resources between various other market segments... The K5 and derivatives may be solid cameras in their own right. Having used Pentax for 20 years I'd be lying and stupid to say they didn't make a product that delivered good results. Well, yes they are. It is just that in modern camera marketplace you have to keep dancing your breakdance or the competition will break your neck, pardon my pun here. Fact's are they have only about 2% of market share and predictions are it will decline. Pardon my being blunt, I don't give a shit about the predictions. Although the fact that the fellow PDMLer couldn't properly repair their FA 135/2.8 lens is worrisome. By the way, I've had a bit of a trouble with my FA 20/2.8. Thankfully good men of Pentax Israel did their job giving me no reason to complain whatsoever. If Pentax was working on a FF body they should certainly say so, rather than hide it. As some have pointed out, the lack of a FF lens line is problematic in that regard. They couldn't. They've played themselves into the marketing zeitnot. They've announced not one but three cameras practically at once. Now, if they indicate that they plan to introduce FF camera and give time estimate for that, it will hurt the sales of their current offerings. And if they don't - well, it would mean pretty much business as usual. So they chose the easy road, so to say. Again, all of the above is my personal view and I don't intend to convince anyone of it. I merely would like to make sure that my ideas are understood. That's all there is to it. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
I apologize if you are offended, but I wasn't being funny. I have seen more than one person struck by another automobile while trying to get out of their car. I have seen more than one of them die. Needlessly, all because they didn't look first. So, you know what you can do with your own provocative and mean spirited ... From: knarftheriault Hey, John, I was going to write a two word reply to you, but decided that discretion might be a good idea right now, angry as I am. If you thought your post was funny, it's not. Your response is provocative to all cyclists on this list and quite frankly, just mean spirited. Have a great day, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: December 9, 2012 12/9/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content) From: Eactivist He's definitely watching that door. When I studied for my driver's license renewal last year (which later I found out I didn't need to do, no test that time around) I found out the #1 cause of bicycle accidents in the US is motorists opening their doors without looking. Or that is what they said and now you are confirming it. I am much more careful about opening my car door now. The best reason to look before opening your door is not that some guy on a bicycle might get hurt when he runs into it, but that some other motorist might run over you while you're trying to get out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Don't Be So... Prickly
An ordinary subject, perhaps. Ordinary shot: not. Ordinary subjects framed or revealed in unordinary ways must surely account for 90% of photographs, maybe more. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:28 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Thanks! Well, this is probably one of the better one for the last two years. Although I took a lot of this particular clump and just randomly picked out this shot as the best. I just meant, I haven't shot anything special, artistic, or different in a l-o-n-g time. Haven't stretched myself. Just taken ordinary shots of ordinary things. Anyway, they look ordinary to me. The Ruth Bancroft Garden, though, turned out to be rather special all by itself. We made a running stop, but I could have stayed for hours (with my tripod, which I didn't have). Three acres of succulents (I guess cactus are succulents). Cacti are great for photography... they are so geometric. Thanks, Jack, Dave, Dan, Gerrit, and, you Bob, for your comments and to all who looked. Marnie :-) --- In a message dated 12/9/2012 7:38:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, Pretty damned good for a 'mediocre' shot! The light, the shapes, and the prickly points are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I have a confession to make, the last three years I haven't been doing much photography. Three years ago I did none for that year. The last two, at least I've done some. Mostly with a friend on day trips. And mostly they are mediocre because I don't do my best photography with others. I get more into it alone. So, no, I haven't been trying very hard and I haven't really grown as a photographer recently. HOWEVER, since they are what I have, you are going to see my mediocre shots. So there. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/prickly.html Taken at the Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek, CA. This place was actually closed for winter clean up when we went and they let us in part of it anyway. I plan to return in the spring with a tripod. It was great. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Okay... I won't (re title). Heh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The origins of art criticism
Perfect! :-) On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Postmaster postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://youtu.be/CUTGC5N7hCI -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2012 - 136 - GDG
Good eye, nicely captured! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: PESO 2012 - 136 - GDG Another new photo, this one made in Vancouver last weekend ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258596436/lightbox Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On Dec 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Tom C wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Tom, You've mentioned 24 MP a few times. How large are you printing that you need 24MP? Larry, Larry, Larry, LARRY! Don't take the phun out of photography. :) Don't be silly, the image quality of the gear has nothing to do with with the fun of photography. However, taking a technical subject and beating on it until the dead horse is nothing but a smoking crater where a greasy spot used to be is half the fun of the PDML. I'm typically printing (having printed to be precise) at 20x30 inches. In that case, I can certainly see why you would need a system with high resolution. Especially if people are looking at your prints from three inches away. Also, what APS-C camera has that resolution? Sony SLT-A99, Sony NEX-7, Nikon D3200, Nikon D5200... not to mention the fabled Pentax K-3 is a 24MP APS-C sensor body, and Canon is looking at doing one if they haven't already. And going by DxOmarks, or pretty much any other reliable test, how many of them actually outperform the K5 ( or II or IIs) in terms of image quality? Historically on this list and many others, when 'OUR' camera manufacturer's offerings have been surpassed by a competitor, a commonly expressed attitude is 'Why would anyone need that? I'm perfectly happy with what I have and need nothing more'. The persons 'whining' for more are labeled as complainers. Then when 'OUR' camera manufacturer releases a new product that has essentially those same characteristics, many jump on the bandwagon and proclaim it as the best ever and how it beats the pants off the prior model. It's dichotomous to say the least. My question wasn't entirely rhetorical. I suppose I could have saved the lives of a few thousand wasted electrons by simply asking what benefit does a sensor that outresolves most lenses, and almost every display method I use gain me, especially at the expense of performance in areas where I am frequently running up against the limits of the camera? And, for what it's worth, last night in order to get the shutter speed I wanted at f/1.8, I had to push the ISO to the 8,000-16,000 range. In other words, with an AA filter, a 24MP APS-C lens will definitely be diffraction limited by f/8.0. Without an AA filter, assuming that the lens is sharp enough, diffraction is probably having an effect by f/4 or f/5.6. 4um is 250/mm, which I understand works out to 125 lp/mm. I understand what you've written, yet nevertheless, an increase in resolution is just that, and it's visible at larger sizes more readily than smaller. Also one can crop more easily and still maintain sufficient resolution. That's interesting. I suppose it is something that needs to be experienced in person. Wasn't there a test recently where they took two cameras, one much higher resolution than the other, made a couple of 16x20 prints and even the most casual observer was able to tell the difference between them? Anybody have a link to that? I guess that sensors that outresolve the lenses improve the quality of photographs in the same way that oxygen free 4guage cables improve the sound quality of home stereos. /jocular sarcasm Noise? Smaller pixels seem to mean more noise, but it then again it seems that manufacturers continue to beat that noise down, and therefore today we have cameras (not all) with the highest MP resolution ever and very low if not lowest noise. In addition, extreme high ISO shooting is not the one and only holy grail. Many photographs are taken at ISO's where noise is not a factor, and therefore the increased resolution benefits each of those images (unless maybe your shooting a beauty pageant). :) But what about frames per second? How can you live without a camera that photographs at 24 frames per second? I certainly don't say that low ISO noise is the only thing that matters. I am saying that it, and dynamic range, are what I run up against the most often in terms of sensor performance limits. snipped for size It seems as if you want a sensor that has approximately twice the resolution of a very good prime lens, which correlates roughly with the Nyquist rate, which would mean that you would never need an anti-aliasing filter, because even without getting into diffraction limiting, you're already past the Nyquist rate. Is this why you feel that 24 MP is so necessary in an APS sensor camera? The reason I feel it's necessary for Pentax (not every person who owns a camera) is because they'll get slaughtered in the marketplace if they don't. What if Pentax decided they didn't need to go beyond 6MP when other mfrs. were pursuing 8, 10, 12? Who goes out and buys a brand new 6MP DLSR these days? This is where we are getting to the core of the matter. Marketing. It's easier to sell simple, easy to understand numbers. Particularly to people that wouldn't take
Re: PESO - Another Lewis (messenger content)
An excellent one, Frank. And he's displaying good form there too. :) On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, blurry. But I like the smile: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/11/another-lewis.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do I determine the resolution---dpi---of an image?
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Eric Weir wrote: I've had a request that I send an image that's at least 300 dpi. I have an image shot at 1/180 at ISO 400. Uh oh. This sounds like a request from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Yeah. I regularly get requests from people to use some of my wildflower photos in a printed publication and they will almost invariably say a resolution of 300dpi will be good. As others have said, any image can be 300 dpi but, depending on the pixel dimensions of the image, the final printed size can be very small or very large. A 6 MP image (3000 x 2000 pixels) will produce an image of about 10in x 6.7in (3000/300 x 2000/300). But if the image is resized to 1500 x 1000 pixels, the print will be about 5in x 3.3in (1500/300 x 1000/300) at 300dpi. So, what I usually do is ask what size (approximately) are they aiming to print. Then I can work back to find what resizing of the original image is needed to produce that printed size at 300dpi. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Output resolution (which is in pixels per inch, not dots per inch) is independent of image dimensions (in pixels). You need to ask them for either the pixel dimensions they want (which they probably won't know) of what their intended print size is (in inches or centimeters). I have LR 3. Is there a way in it to determine the resolution/dpi --- I'm assuming they are equivalent---of an image? Is there a way to control the resolution/dpi when exporting the image? You can control everything in the Export dialog. The parts of the Export dialog are as follows (scrolling from top to bottom): * Export location * File Naming * Video * File settings (file format, color space, bit depth, etc.) * Image sizing * Sharpening * Metadata * Watermarking * Post-processing The first two items are at your own discretion. The third is non-applicable. File settings should, unless the recipient specifies otherwise, be JPEG file format, sRGB color space, high quality (how high is up to you) Image sizing is where you set parameters for the pixel dimensions of your exported image. You know that the output resolution needs to be 300 ppi (though it really doesn't matter - the recipient can change it to any value they like) but you don't know what actual dimensions in pixels or inches are required. This is the information you need to get from the person you're sending the image to. (I'd leave sharpening off and skip the Metadata, Watermarking and Post-processing sections for this.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Lamp posts
Lamp post 1: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!133642authkey=!AAPQCvNgUBIZ8ow Lamp post 2: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!133641authkey=!AKQPy0ZaD6QAjOo Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - tango @ ISO-6400
(Rick Womer, please stop reading now, or you might start hating me.) I am continuing looking through the photos taken at the tango festival last weekend with the brand new K5 IIs. Here are some 9 photos that were taken at ISO-6400: http://42graphy.org/misc/ISO-6400-tango/ Most of them are not perfect: a few are slightly out of focus and/or are suffering from the camera shake (the camera was hand-held for all these photos). I was still playing with the settings (various AF modes) and modes (S/TA/T priority). But, I think these photos show the quality of the ISO-6400. (Some NR, in the range 35-70 for luminance, was applied in LR, except for the 2nd shot, _IR00019, where no NR was done. For that shot, NO image manipulation, except cropping and resizing was done, - hence some noise can be seen). And some of these photos are fun by themselves (IMHO). Comments are (as always) welcome, including constructive critique and recommendations. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - tango @ ISO-6400
Looks very nice, Igor. I agree with you this is nice noise quality. How is the autofocusing in low light? Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: (Rick Womer, please stop reading now, or you might start hating me.) I am continuing looking through the photos taken at the tango festival last weekend with the brand new K5 IIs. Here are some 9 photos that were taken at ISO-6400: http://42graphy.org/misc/ISO-6400-tango/ Most of them are not perfect: a few are slightly out of focus and/or are suffering from the camera shake (the camera was hand-held for all these photos). I was still playing with the settings (various AF modes) and modes (S/TA/T priority). But, I think these photos show the quality of the ISO-6400. (Some NR, in the range 35-70 for luminance, was applied in LR, except for the 2nd shot, _IR00019, where no NR was done. For that shot, NO image manipulation, except cropping and resizing was done, - hence some noise can be seen). And some of these photos are fun by themselves (IMHO). Comments are (as always) welcome, including constructive critique and recommendations. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lamp posts
Love the 2nd one, Stig. Color, crispness, and light--all very nice. Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:20 PM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: Lamp post 1: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!133642authkey=!AAPQCvNgUBIZ8ow Lamp post 2: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!133641authkey=!AKQPy0ZaD6QAjOo Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2012 - 136 - GDG
Love the light and color of the leaves and the red color as background. The two silver objects are a little distracting. Still, despite that the photo conveys a lovely mood. Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Another new photo, this one made in Vancouver last weekend ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258596436/lightbox Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2012 - 135 - GDG
What Bob said. Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Very nicely composed and printed. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 09 December 2012 18:20 To: PAW Picture-A-Week project; SeePhoto Talk; BAPhotoShooters BAPA; PDML List Subject: PESO 2012 - 135 - GDG From yesterday, while on a walking tour of classic homes in Santa Clara, CA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258579528/lightbox enjoy! thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Why I love a weather-resistant camera
Tons of snow coming down here in Minneapolis today. It's a wet/warm snow which is sticking to everything. I went for a walk with the K7 just slung around my neck.. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMG_2282.jpg -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Why I love a weather-resistant camera
Love it, Charles! Cheers, Christine On Dec 9, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Tons of snow coming down here in Minneapolis today. It's a wet/warm snow which is sticking to everything. I went for a walk with the K7 just slung around my neck.. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMG_2282.jpg -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Why I love a weather-resistant camera
Reasons to love a weather resistant camera. And living in California Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Tons of snow coming down here in Minneapolis today. It's a wet/warm snow which is sticking to everything. I went for a walk with the K7 just slung around my neck.. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMG_2282.jpg -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Why I love a weather-resistant camera
Great shot! On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Tons of snow coming down here in Minneapolis today. It's a wet/warm snow which is sticking to everything. I went for a walk with the K7 just slung around my neck.. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMG_2282.jpg -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: PESO: Why I love a weather-resistant camera
But the secret is that this very photo was taken with a Canon Powershot S95, which isn't weather resistant. :-) Igor, with weather-resistant P's from Texas, where at the time of writing at 5pm CST, it is 79 F, and I am thinking about switchng the HVAC system back into the AC mode. PS. Enjoying the photo nevertheless. On Dec 9, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Tons of snow coming down here in Minneapolis today. It's a wet/warm snow which is sticking to everything. I went for a walk with the K7 just slung around my neck.. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMG_2282.jpg -Charles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Files reduced in size when attached to email
Apple Mail can resize attached image files. The sizings are user selectable directly from the email header. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/apple-mail-picture-sizing-options.png Whatever sizing was last chosen is sticky, it will be re-used unless you change it. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ok, I have a question for everyone
Hi Gang: I just tried to send a test email which included a hot link to a photo located in my public folder in my dropbox app. The photo is given its own URL address, so there should be no problem, right? But there is a problem--it never posted successfully. I just did a 2nd test without the link, and that email posted successfully. The other variable is that I'm doing all of this from my iPad, which is what I want to do, that is, I've been trying to figure out a way where I could 1) import photo via Apple card reader to iPad (check: I have the adapter that allows me to do this), 2) render the RAW image (check: I have plenty of photo apps that allow me to do this), 3) then upload photo to share via the web (here's the motivation for the dropbox test). So do you think our PDML account is reading the dropbox link as some kind of spam and blocking it? If dropbox doesn't work, I'll have to try another solution. I'd really like to avoid flickr. Any other options I should consider? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
