Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
I'd guess that my raw technical skill and ability to get a clear, sharp, photograph is likely in the upper half of people who own DSLRs and three or more lenses for them. I choose three to distinguish from the people who buy a DSLR kit with one or two lenses and use them as an expensive point

RE: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell
well its certainly a specialty lens. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:50 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K5 RAW file size -

Re: PESO: LeeAnn

2013-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Walt wrote: From what I can tell about her so far, that's not outside the realms of possibility. If nothing else, while on the back of a Harley. -- Walt On 2/5/2013 3:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: For Larry to be really like it she should be wearing

Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

2013-02-06 Thread Bulent Celasun
Thank you, Dag! Your image shines on my monitor... Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun

Re: PESO: LeeAnn

2013-02-06 Thread Walt
On 2/6/2013 2:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote: If nothing else, while on the back of a Harley. Good idea with a good possibility of happening. I have a cousin who's been pestering me to shoot his Harley. No, for me to*really* like it, she should be some place that*I* can photograph her. And no,

Re: PESO: LeeAnn

2013-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Walt wrote: On 2/6/2013 2:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote: If nothing else, while on the back of a Harley. Good idea with a good possibility of happening. I have a cousin who's been pestering me to shoot his Harley. No, for me to*really* like it, she should be some

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/2/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: That seems at odds with this marvelous image that you, yourself, posted and which doesn't seem to have any trace of chocolate (Belgian or otherwise) in its composition. http://www.cottysnaps.com/yum.html Oh *that* one. I ate that a

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/2/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed: Whatever Pentax is planning with FF, they are up to something. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML

Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: If you were to ask someone for an opinion on some pie you baked, would you then also spread some fruit, yeast, sugar and flour on the table and say,

Pentax in the movies

2013-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Saw part of a 1975 Pam Grier movie last night on tv and she was shooting away with was clearly a screwmount black ESII mint with a smc lens on it. The camera looked so nice. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Pentax in the movies

2013-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell
looked like the 135/2.5 prime lens mounted on it too. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:54 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'

Re: OT Light trails fashion

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Those shots are really fine, Dave. Nice touch with the reflective floor. I assume that the light dress lighting involves camera Bulb mode, manually triggering the flashes, then walking around for 15 seconds with the LED light bars. He probably does touch the model with the LED bar as he paints --

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Bill
On 06/02/2013 2:24 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: well its certainly a specialty lens. It's a wide angle to normal zoom. Nothing specialized about it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

RE: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell
on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Wednesday,

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Bill
On 06/02/2013 11:07 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. Whatever. I suppose by the same logic, an 80-200/2.8 is a specialized lens. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT Light trails fashion

2013-02-06 Thread David Savage
No problem I guess. I'd just feel a bit weird doing it. Too many photographers who paw at the models. Always comes across as really seedy to me. DS On 6 February 2013 21:50, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Those shots are really fine, Dave. Nice touch with the reflective floor. I

QUESTION

2013-02-06 Thread Alan Cole
The K20D was the first Pentax digital with Live-Preview mode. Did anyone ever come up with a clever routine to simulate Live-Preview on the older models? Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

OT - For Boris

2013-02-06 Thread Paul Sorenson
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Re: OT Light trails fashion

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 5, 2013, at 22:45 , David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a bit of a crack at something along similar lines: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/7431568008/in/set-72157624148622711 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/7431709406/in/set-72157624148622711 The guy who did

Re: OT Light trails fashion

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Could he not: 1. Shoot model with flash 2. Have model leave the area 3. Paint around where the model WAS with the light. Trouble with your #3 is that the viewer would expect the model to occlude the light behind

Re: OT Light trails fashion

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Pawing, yeah: definitely not good! But if the LED array comes into contact while creating the desired design, and especially if the model understands this is likely, I don't see any issues there. And there's probably about a dozen other people in on the shoot so safety and security is good. On

Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...

2013-02-06 Thread Bryan Jacoby
That lens has been back on BH for almost two years now (that I've been aware of it) so I don't think it's proof of full frame. The last time I checked the price was $475, though. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:48 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Look what shows up as a current

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/6/2013 12:33 PM, Bill wrote: On 06/02/2013 11:07 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. Whatever. I suppose by the same logic, an 80-200/2.8 is a specialized lens. bill I kind

Re: QUESTION

2013-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think that's even possible. The sensor isn't designed for continuous output so the support circuitry for live view isn't even there. On 2/6/2013 1:25 PM, Alan Cole wrote: The K20D was the first Pentax digital with Live-Preview mode. Did anyone ever come up with a clever routine to

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: On 06/02/2013 11:07 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. Whatever. I suppose by the same logic, an 80-200/2.8 is a specialized lens. The 17-55/2.8 and 80-200/2.8 are

Re: DxOMark Analysis

2013-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Like everything else it's a price performance issue. If like me, you think that the ultamate output of the photographic experience is making a print, the question is can I make a descernibly better print, (at some particular size), from a FF camera than I can from an APS-C camera and at what

Re: QUESTION

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Alan Cole wrote: The K20D was the first Pentax digital with Live-Preview mode. Did anyone ever come up with a clever routine to simulate Live-Preview on the older models? Nope. Earlier models had CCD sensors, not CMOS. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com --

Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...

2013-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It hasn't been listed on the http://www.pentaximaging.com web site for any of that time. It was officially discontinued at BH three years ago and by Pentax at the same time. I don't think it's been there all that time, I kept haunting there hoping to find one. On 2/6/2013 2:47 PM, Bryan

Re: DxOMark Analysis

2013-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I should really spell check before I hit send but oh, well. On 2/6/2013 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Like everything else it's a price performance issue. If like me, you think that the ultamate output of the photographic experience is making a print, the question is can I make a descernibly

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Paul Ewins
And that, pretty much, is how I feel about FF. My photo course starts up again on Friday (another three years to go for us part timers) and I still don't have the unbearable itch to go FF even as my classmates look at 5D III and D600s. There is so much that I can do that doesn't require FF

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: When I migrated to Nikon I bought their best lenses (the holy trinity 14-24, 24-70, 70-200, plus their 50 f1.4 85 f1.4). Earlier upthread I said: Realistically, you probably need to commit to spending nearly 10K to get a

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:11 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: Basically I've notice that the aperture sweet spot is even more critical at such a high MP count. When I migrated to Nikon I bought their best lenses (the holy trinity 14-24, 24-70, 780-200, ptus their 50 f1.4 85 f1.4).

Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

2013-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely, looks like a painting Dave On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:11 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm, f/2.8, 1/50s, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: QUESTION

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Alan Cole c...@lantic.net wrote: The K20D was the first Pentax digital with Live-Preview mode. Did anyone ever come up with a clever routine to simulate Live-Preview on the older models?

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
All this measurbating is making me glad I've actually been *using* a 24MP full-frame for a couple of years. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: QUESTION

2013-02-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
With my left eye on the viewfinder I keep my right eye on the scene to get the live view. -Original Message- From: Alan Cole c...@lantic.net Subject: QUESTION The K20D was the first Pentax digital with Live-Preview mode. Did anyone ever come up with a clever routine to simulate

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Besides commercial studio shooting and classroom situations, is there any real need for tethering? Besides the 1.0 crop factor sensor, is there anything _fundamentally_ different between FF cameras and comparable APS-C cameras? We should really think long and hard about how some other

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
So from your experience Mark, what has 24MP done for your photography? -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: K5 RAW file size - yow! All this measurbating is making me glad I've actually been *using* a 24MP full-frame for a couple of years. --

Fw: Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
I meant to include fill-frame in that question. -Forwarded Message- From: Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: K5 RAW file size - yow! So from your experience Mark, what has 24MP done for your photography? -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
And that, pretty much, is how I feel about FF. My photo course starts up again on Friday (another three years to go for us part timers) and I still don't have the unbearable itch to go FF even as my classmates look at 5D III and D600s. There is so much that I can do that doesn't require FF

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Stan Halpin
Does that mean you have a high IQ? stan On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: All this measurbating is making me glad I've actually been *using* a 24MP full-frame for a couple of years. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: The No. 1 SuperBowl ad was a *still photography* slideshow

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
My contemporaneous remarks: Brilliant photography in that Paul Harvey Dodge ad. That wins. https://twitter.com/coneslayer/status/298264624195829760 There was certainly nothing that came after it that changed my mind. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: If

Re: The No. 1 SuperBowl ad was a *still photography* slideshow

2013-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
It says a lot about the power of emotion. Chrysler has reinvented itself by championing Detroit, the. Armed services and farmers. It has become the car company that Americans love to like, and sales have skyrocketed -- with a minimal amount of new product. Marketing genius, imported from Italy.

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/2/13, J.C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. Come on JC - that needs all full caps - you wimped out on two words. I'm gutted!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 6/2/13, J.C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. Come on JC - that needs all full caps - you wimped out on two words. I'm gutted!! NO YOU'RE NOT!

Re: QUESTION

2013-02-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/2/13, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Did anyone ever come up with a clever routine to simulate Live-Preview on the older models? I just look over top of the pop up flash Thanks mate. Come and clean my screen!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread George Sinos
One difference not often mentioned is that it is easier to achieve shallow depth of field with a larger sensor. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote: So from your experience Mark, what has 24MP done for your photography? Several things. First of all, the 24MP has given me more options, like making a panoramic shot by cropping from a single frame rather than stitching multiple frames together (I usually don't shoot that

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Which is implicitly covered by the 1.0 crop factor. AOV, DOF are both different. You get the 35mm look which is undoubtedly a desirable feature. But it gets even better with a medium format camera (645D anyone?) and better still with a large format. I think my own shooting could benefit from

Re: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
George Sinos wrote: One difference not often mentioned is that it is easier to achieve shallow depth of field with a larger sensor. gs I find the difference in DOF between APS-C and FF is so small it's not worth mentioning. When you get up to 6x7 format, though... Then DOF gets small enough to

OT: Pentax Has New Firmware

2013-02-06 Thread Jeffery Johnson
There are several new firmware updates http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/download_digital.html -- Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

RE: Pentax FF is going to happen

2013-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell
The difference in DOF between FF and apsc is approx 1 fstop. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 7:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: Pentax Has New Firmware

2013-02-06 Thread Darren Addy
How is this OT? :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT: Pentax Has New Firmware

2013-02-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: How is this OT? :) Doesn't everyone here shoot Nikon or Sony FF now? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: OT: Pentax Has New Firmware

2013-02-06 Thread Jeffery Johnson
No not yet. If I do jump ship it would probably be over to Sony. On 2/6/2013 8:17 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: How is this OT? :) Doesn't everyone here shoot Nikon or Sony FF now? -- Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: When I migrated to Nikon I bought their best lenses (the holy trinity 14-24, 24-70, 70-200, plus their 50 f1.4 85 f1.4). Earlier upthread I said: Realistically, you probably need to commit to spending

Re: OT: Pentax Has New Firmware

2013-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:17:57PM -0500, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: How is this OT? :) Doesn't everyone here shoot Nikon or Sony FF now? Or Olympus 4/3 .. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Use at your own risk: how to disable SDM and enable screw driven AF on DA* lenses

2013-02-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Found this link on Russian Pentax forum: http://www.pentaxiste.org/pratique/depannage/article/how-to-deactivate-sdm-and-allow?var_mode=calcul I would certainly suggest that you use it only as the very last resort. But as a technical possibility - this is rather interesting. Standard

Re: Use at your own risk: how to disable SDM and enable screw driven AF on DA* lenses

2013-02-06 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: http://www.pentaxiste.org/pratique/depannage/article/how-to-deactivate-sdm-and-allow?var_mode=calcul I would certainly suggest that you use it only as the very last resort. But as a technical possibility - this is rather interesting. Why would

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread David Savage
I had, and still have, an impressive collection of FA, FA* Limiteds. I didn't jump ship to join the FF bandwagon. I jumped ship because Pentax's cameras couldn't do what I needed (I had a K20D at the time). Around the time of the D700's release I had been shooting a lot of long exposure night

RE: The No. 1 SuperBowl ad was a *still photography* slideshow

2013-02-06 Thread John Coyle
IMHO, the appeal lies in the mostly superb imagery, together with the lack of the usual shouting lunatic voice-over and ear-splitting music that accompanies so many ads nowadays. For me, the most evocative images were the portraits of the farmers themselves. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread kwaller
Thanks Mark. I'm still shooting with a K20D and recently did a 24 X 36'' print (biggest I've ever done) from a slightly cropped file that just blew me and others away with it's detail. Its hard for me to justify a new body just for a ff sensor or 24MP. Kenneth Waller

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Bill
On 06/02/2013 2:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bill wrote: On 06/02/2013 11:07 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: on ff its an ULTRA wide angle to normal and at F2.8 for a zoom, VERY fast. not your every day average usage lens at all. Whatever. I suppose by the same logic, an 80-200/2.8 is a specialized

Re: K5 RAW file size - yow!

2013-02-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 February 2013 16:16, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: I see a lot of people buying FF cameras simply because the sensor is bigger. They still shoot the same crap they always did don't really get the full benefits of what the larger sensor can offer. I saw this effect or worse last