Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs
On 12 August 2015 at 21:47, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2015, at 21:42, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 12 August 2015 at 20:26, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2015, at 20:20, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/12/2015 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/12/why-dont-people-smile-old-photographs-google-answer I wonder how much of a role Victorian era dentistry played? Victorian ear dentistry? The (rarely practised, these days) science of Auradontics. Can't be any worse than the proctodontics my dentist has been insisting I try. Why he wants me to examine his teeth is anybody's guess. That's taking chew your food properly to a ridiculous extreme. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: obento
One of the things I enjoyed about Japan is the way they embrace technology (beyond North America and Europe), while holding on to old traditions and habits. Toilets are an example. Although one still finds the traditional porcelain oval on the floor, this is the high-tech model we found in our hotel bathroom: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069314 Here is a close-up of the control panel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069315 Both images were taken with the K-5 II S and DA 18-135 xoom. Bento, or more politely obento, is the more traditional term for a toilet. Literally, it means convenient place. More modern usage is tearai or otearai, meaning hand washing place. Also in common usage today is toire, the Japanese pronunciation of toilet, which is often used were Westerners are expected. In the airports and train stations, one is offered a variety of toilet choices. In a Narita men's room, there were urinals plus 6 stalls: three were high-tech toilets virtually identical to the one in our hotel room; one was the same, but also featured a car seat type of provision for holding a child while one used the toilet; the fifth was a typical American-style toilet, without the bells and whistles; the sixth was a traditional squat-on-the-floor porcelaian oval, for those who cling to the old ways. The Japanese people and culture fascinated me this year as much as when I last visited there, in 1967. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ricoh rant. (WTFM)
Alright, this seems stupid at this late date, but dammit, here goes. I was looking for an obscure function in the K-5II and couldn't remember where in the menu system it was, or for that matter if it wasn't a figment of my imagination... So I dug out the paper manual, and thought it would be so much easier to search this electronically. Hum, never looked on the CD that came with the camera, already had hacked Pentax Camera Utility 4 onto my computer so I didn't need to update that, much prefer to read on paper, but electronic search so much easier, so I dig out the CD, and... The manual isn't on the CD. Every other Pentax DSRL I've owned, had the manual on the CD, not having it there seems stupid, it really costs almost nothing to include an electronic copy. Oh, well not a biggie, just download it... Visit Ricoh-Immaging.com, download page and no manual for the K-5II or IIs. Try Ricoh Japan, and can't load the page that seems to be broken. Figure what the heck, the K-5 is probably close enough, download that manual. But then I noticed that there were other problems. As long as I was there I figured I'd check for the latest version of PCU4 after all they've done updates and there might be a new one. Not available, you can update PCU5, from the K-5IIs but not PCU4, but my K-5II came with PCU4 can't officially update to 5 from that. What the F*K is someone my position supposed to do? Ricoh has plugged the hole that let you pretty easily download and update later versions of the PCU than that which came with you camera. That limitation always seemed pretty stupid and petty, after all who would actually want the PCU if they didn't actually own a Pentax camera? But I'm kind of disgusted, really for a while there support for older Pentax cameras was sometimes spotty, but this actually seems venial. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
Well what is there to say. The UI of the now just DCU5, no longer Pentax, is like all things aimed at Win8 being slowly lobotomized. Customizable settings, forgetaboutit. Just gone. I thought that software aimed at XP was getting to look a bit like CandyLand, this is just ridiculous. Change your tool layouts? Sure you can do that but you'll have to redo it every time the program starts. Working in a sub-directory? Not any more. Geez who wrote this crap. PDCU4 was actually getting to be pretty good, huge step up from previous versions. DCU5, is annoying as hell. No wonder no one want's to use it. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:41 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well what is there to say. The UI of the now just DCU5, no longer Pentax, is like all things aimed at Win8 being slowly lobotomized. Customizable settings, forgetaboutit. Just gone. I thought that software aimed at XP was getting to look a bit like CandyLand, this is just ridiculous. Change your tool layouts? Sure you can do that but you'll have to redo it every time the program starts. Working in a sub-directory? Not any more. Geez who wrote this crap. Probably the4 same person that wrote the on line learning pages for my next class, would only work on Chrome Dave PDCU4 was actually getting to be pretty good, huge step up from previous versions. DCU5, is annoying as hell. No wonder no one want's to use it. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: obento
There's a comedy there waiting to be filmed. I'm glad there's an emergency stop button. B On 13 Aug 2015, at 15:36, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: One of the things I enjoyed about Japan is the way they embrace technology (beyond North America and Europe), while holding on to old traditions and habits. Toilets are an example. Although one still finds the traditional porcelain oval on the floor, this is the high-tech model we found in our hotel bathroom: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069314 Here is a close-up of the control panel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069315 Both images were taken with the K-5 II S and DA 18-135 xoom. Bento, or more politely obento, is the more traditional term for a toilet. Literally, it means convenient place. More modern usage is tearai or otearai, meaning hand washing place. Also in common usage today is toire, the Japanese pronunciation of toilet, which is often used were Westerners are expected. In the airports and train stations, one is offered a variety of toilet choices. In a Narita men's room, there were urinals plus 6 stalls: three were high-tech toilets virtually identical to the one in our hotel room; one was the same, but also featured a car seat type of provision for holding a child while one used the toilet; the fifth was a typical American-style toilet, without the bells and whistles; the sixth was a traditional squat-on-the-floor porcelaian oval, for those who cling to the old ways. The Japanese people and culture fascinated me this year as much as when I last visited there, in 1967. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting shooting stars
On 2015-08-13 13:59 , Larry Colen wrote: And shortly before I left, another in the milky way using my 8mm fisheye: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19911788174/in/album-72157657118069972/ that's my favorite, gives the milky way some motion i just went onto my balcony in the central Denver glare, with only a partial view of the sky, and saw three bright but short ones in ten minutes or so, about 1:30 this morning -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: obento
Guys...don't ever press the button labeled Tampon Remover -p On 8/13/2015 1:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: There's a comedy there waiting to be filmed. I'm glad there's an emergency stop button. B On 13 Aug 2015, at 15:36, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: One of the things I enjoyed about Japan is the way they embrace technology (beyond North America and Europe), while holding on to old traditions and habits. Toilets are an example. Although one still finds the traditional porcelain oval on the floor, this is the high-tech model we found in our hotel bathroom: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069314 Here is a close-up of the control panel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069315 Both images were taken with the K-5 II S and DA 18-135 xoom. Bento, or more politely obento, is the more traditional term for a toilet. Literally, it means convenient place. More modern usage is tearai or otearai, meaning hand washing place. Also in common usage today is toire, the Japanese pronunciation of toilet, which is often used were Westerners are expected. In the airports and train stations, one is offered a variety of toilet choices. In a Narita men's room, there were urinals plus 6 stalls: three were high-tech toilets virtually identical to the one in our hotel room; one was the same, but also featured a car seat type of provision for holding a child while one used the toilet; the fifth was a typical American-style toilet, without the bells and whistles; the sixth was a traditional squat-on-the-floor porcelaian oval, for those who cling to the old ways. The Japanese people and culture fascinated me this year as much as when I last visited there, in 1967. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: August PUG is UP!
Thanks to Brian, Darren, and Ann for comments (and anyone else if I've overlooked you). Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
Okay, I found it. You need a Redeem Code from Practical Photography. Does anyone have one of these? Joe -Forwarded Message- From: jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com Sent: Aug 13, 2015 6:56 PM To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5 Hello Friends, Cyberlink Photo Director ver 5.06 is FREE to download till August end I think. Bipin, can you provide a link? I can't find it. Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso, jays in flight
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Yeah, but the bikes weight limit is only 220 lbs ! That could be a problem Dave Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTAX-DA-560MM-F5-6-ED-AW-LENS.aspx For $14,000 you've got the Marinoni Genius with Campy Super Record EPS and Bora wheelset. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/Genius.html That's like 1/2 the price of one truck. Think outside the box... Cheers, frank On 12 August, 2015 9:02:54 PM EDT, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Truck, lens, truck lens Oy -- -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
Larry Colen wrote: The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this. If you export a cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso, jays in flight
I'm not exactly sure how whether or not a fish needs a bicycle relates to the cost of an imaginary 600mm f/2.8 lens? On 8/13/2015 12:30 AM, Knarf wrote: False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTAX-DA-560MM-F5-6-ED-AW-LENS.aspx For $14,000 you've got the Marinoni Genius with Campy Super Record EPS and Bora wheelset. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/Genius.html That's like 1/2 the price of one truck. Think outside the box... Cheers, frank On 12 August, 2015 9:02:54 PM EDT, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Truck, lens, truck lens Oy -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
Hello Friends, Cyberlink Photo Director ver 5.06 is FREE to download till August end I think. Bipin, can you provide a link? I can't find it. Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
Hello Friends, Cyberlink Photo Director ver 5.06 is FREE to download till August end I think. You will also get the software key upon registration. It behaves exactly like LightRoom, perhaps with a better GUI and they have added 4K Display font sizing. I too do not use PDCU5. It is retrograde stuff. Regards. Bipin camp: Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
September PUG Countdown - 6 Days to World Photo Day
As promised - first nag... For the September PUG, you need to take a photo next Wednesday, August 19 - World Photo Day. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting shooting stars
We went back last night. Most of my shooting was from setting up my Sigma 20/1.7 vertical, and shooting a 360 degree panorama. My very first shot after setting up and focusing my camera: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20534425345/in/album-72157657118069972/ I eventually ran into issues with the lens fogging up and had to clean it a few times. Just a few minutes later: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19913518993/in/album-72157657118069972/ A panorama of the two: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20359613400/in/album-72157657118154892/ I caught one in the milky way: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20534636155/in/album-72157657118069972/ And shortly before I left, another in the milky way using my 8mm fisheye: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19911788174/in/album-72157657118069972/ I really wish that Lightroom let me select areas of individual frames that I specifically do (or do not) want in a panorama, but here are some more panos that I've stitched in lightroom: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118154892 I'm adding everything of any interest to this flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972 Including the panos in the previous album. Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of experience for photographing them? I suspect that a lot of short exposures will have the advantage of running at a higher ISO and making it easier to capture a dimmer transient event. Then there is the question of darkfield frames. Astrotracer or not? Optimal focal length? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso, jays in flight
Yeah, but the bikes weight limit is only 220 lbs ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTAX-DA-560MM-F5-6-ED-AW-LENS.aspx For $14,000 you've got the Marinoni Genius with Campy Super Record EPS and Bora wheelset. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/Genius.html That's like 1/2 the price of one truck. Think outside the box... Cheers, frank On 12 August, 2015 9:02:54 PM EDT, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Truck, lens, truck lens Oy -- -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh rant. (WTFM)
Did you ever find the manual? It's here if you still need it... http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-5-2.pdf -p On 8/13/2015 10:16 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Alright, this seems stupid at this late date, but dammit, here goes. I was looking for an obscure function in the K-5II and couldn't remember where in the menu system it was, or for that matter if it wasn't a figment of my imagination... So I dug out the paper manual, and thought it would be so much easier to search this electronically. Hum, never looked on the CD that came with the camera, already had hacked Pentax Camera Utility 4 onto my computer so I didn't need to update that, much prefer to read on paper, but electronic search so much easier, so I dig out the CD, and... The manual isn't on the CD. Every other Pentax DSRL I've owned, had the manual on the CD, not having it there seems stupid, it really costs almost nothing to include an electronic copy. Oh, well not a biggie, just download it... Visit Ricoh-Immaging.com, download page and no manual for the K-5II or IIs. Try Ricoh Japan, and can't load the page that seems to be broken. Figure what the heck, the K-5 is probably close enough, download that manual. But then I noticed that there were other problems. As long as I was there I figured I'd check for the latest version of PCU4 after all they've done updates and there might be a new one. Not available, you can update PCU5, from the K-5IIs but not PCU4, but my K-5II came with PCU4 can't officially update to 5 from that. What the F*K is someone my position supposed to do? Ricoh has plugged the hole that let you pretty easily download and update later versions of the PCU than that which came with you camera. That limitation always seemed pretty stupid and petty, after all who would actually want the PCU if they didn't actually own a Pentax camera? But I'm kind of disgusted, really for a while there support for older Pentax cameras was sometimes spotty, but this actually seems venial. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh rant. (WTFM)
Thanks Paul. I wasn't able to connect to the Ricoh Japan server earlier, but the link you supplied worked. Maybe whatever was wrong has been fixed. On 8/13/2015 3:02 PM, Paul wrote: Did you ever find the manual? It's here if you still need it... http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-5-2.pdf -p On 8/13/2015 10:16 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Alright, this seems stupid at this late date, but dammit, here goes. I was looking for an obscure function in the K-5II and couldn't remember where in the menu system it was, or for that matter if it wasn't a figment of my imagination... So I dug out the paper manual, and thought it would be so much easier to search this electronically. Hum, never looked on the CD that came with the camera, already had hacked Pentax Camera Utility 4 onto my computer so I didn't need to update that, much prefer to read on paper, but electronic search so much easier, so I dig out the CD, and... The manual isn't on the CD. Every other Pentax DSRL I've owned, had the manual on the CD, not having it there seems stupid, it really costs almost nothing to include an electronic copy. Oh, well not a biggie, just download it... Visit Ricoh-Immaging.com, download page and no manual for the K-5II or IIs. Try Ricoh Japan, and can't load the page that seems to be broken. Figure what the heck, the K-5 is probably close enough, download that manual. But then I noticed that there were other problems. As long as I was there I figured I'd check for the latest version of PCU4 after all they've done updates and there might be a new one. Not available, you can update PCU5, from the K-5IIs but not PCU4, but my K-5II came with PCU4 can't officially update to 5 from that. What the F*K is someone my position supposed to do? Ricoh has plugged the hole that let you pretty easily download and update later versions of the PCU than that which came with you camera. That limitation always seemed pretty stupid and petty, after all who would actually want the PCU if they didn't actually own a Pentax camera? But I'm kind of disgusted, really for a while there support for older Pentax cameras was sometimes spotty, but this actually seems venial. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
Version 4 had actually reached the useable level. Not perfect by any means but much better than any previous version. Version 5 is at least half a step backwards, with most customization options that made Digital Camera Utility 4 worth using either disabled or inoperative. Plus it looks like a poorly designed web site by comparison to version 4 as well. The UI in 4 wasn't really exciting, basically. at least on MS Windows, the Windows World of grey rectangles, with a few XP trimmings, but workmanlike, 5 not so much. On 8/13/2015 3:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Not just the UI, but the behaviour of the included software tools have always been junk. It's Obligationware: they must include a software DVD because it's expected, but the stuff needn't actually work very well (or at all), so it doesn't. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:41 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well what is there to say. The UI of the now just DCU5, no longer Pentax, is like all things aimed at Win8 being slowly lobotomized. Customizable settings, forgetaboutit. Just gone. I thought that software aimed at XP was getting to look a bit like CandyLand, this is just ridiculous. Change your tool layouts? Sure you can do that but you'll have to redo it every time the program starts. Working in a sub-directory? Not any more. Geez who wrote this crap. PDCU4 was actually getting to be pretty good, huge step up from previous versions. DCU5, is annoying as hell. No wonder no one want's to use it. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Treehopper
Thanks Ken, Paul, Frank, Ann, Dan and everyone else who had a look! On 8/11/2015 11:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Great! The detail is phenomenal. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Subject: PESO - Treehopper http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/treehopper I must have angered the macro gods... The four shots I tried before this one all failed in a variety of ways. This one came out OK. Pentax K3 with reverse mounted K 24mm f3.5. Comments welcome! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Rant - Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
jtainer Sir, please try these links http://www.cyberlink.com/stat/edms/Giveaway/PhD5/index.jsp?AID=10653720PID=3237423SID=lhd-394451-o1utm_source=So+Grid+Tech%2C+Inc.utm_medium=referralutm_campaign=affiliateaffid=2581_-1_37_CJaffiliate www.cyberlink.com/stat/edms/Giveaway/PhD5/download.jsp CyberLink_PhotoDirector_Downloader Brian Sir, the newer version 5 appears to be just as good as Lightroom version 5. Do try it. It is FREE for a limited time. Note: No Redeem Code is required from the above sites, just your name and email address. The link came to me from LiveHotDeals.com of 6th August 2015. Regards. Bipin camp: Thornhill, Ontario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
On 13/08/2015 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this. If you export a cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge. I could have told you that. This is both the beauty and Achilles heel of the way Lightroom processes a file. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
According to this page: http://www.mostiwant.com/cyberlink-photodirector-3-free-full-version-serial-key-giveaway/ the redeem code is PractPhoto15 I Haven't tried it myself, although I might give it a go. My experience with an earlier version of Photo Director was a bit underwhelming. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Fri, Aug 14, 2015, at 10:59 AM, jtainter wrote: Okay, I found it. You need a Redeem Code from Practical Photography. Does anyone have one of these? Joe -Forwarded Message- From: jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com Sent: Aug 13, 2015 6:56 PM To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5 Hello Friends, Cyberlink Photo Director ver 5.06 is FREE to download till August end I think. Bipin, can you provide a link? I can't find it. Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting shooting stars
Some really nice captures ! I especially like those with illuminated foregrounds. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: Shooting shooting stars We went back last night. Most of my shooting was from setting up my Sigma 20/1.7 vertical, and shooting a 360 degree panorama. My very first shot after setting up and focusing my camera: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20534425345/in/album-72157657118069972/ I eventually ran into issues with the lens fogging up and had to clean it a few times. Just a few minutes later: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19913518993/in/album-72157657118069972/ A panorama of the two: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20359613400/in/album-72157657118154892/ I caught one in the milky way: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20534636155/in/album-72157657118069972/ And shortly before I left, another in the milky way using my 8mm fisheye: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19911788174/in/album-72157657118069972/ I really wish that Lightroom let me select areas of individual frames that I specifically do (or do not) want in a panorama, but here are some more panos that I've stitched in lightroom: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118154892 I'm adding everything of any interest to this flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972 Including the panos in the previous album. Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of experience for photographing them? I suspect that a lot of short exposures will have the advantage of running at a higher ISO and making it easier to capture a dimmer transient event. Then there is the question of darkfield frames. Astrotracer or not? Optimal focal length? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting shooting stars
Ken Waller wrote: Some really nice captures ! Thanks Ken, also Steve, Dan, Ann, Darren Bob, Knarf, Jack, John, and all who looked. I especially like those with illuminated foregrounds. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: Shooting shooting stars We went back last night. Most of my shooting was from setting up my Sigma 20/1.7 vertical, and shooting a 360 degree panorama. My very first shot after setting up and focusing my camera: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20534425345/in/album-72157657118069972/ I eventually ran into issues with the lens fogging up and had to clean it a few times. Just a few minutes later: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19913518993/in/album-72157657118069972/ A panorama of the two: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20359613400/in/album-72157657118154892/ I caught one in the milky way: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20534636155/in/album-72157657118069972/ And shortly before I left, another in the milky way using my 8mm fisheye: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/19911788174/in/album-72157657118069972/ I really wish that Lightroom let me select areas of individual frames that I specifically do (or do not) want in a panorama, but here are some more panos that I've stitched in lightroom: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118154892 I'm adding everything of any interest to this flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972 Including the panos in the previous album. Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of experience for photographing them? I suspect that a lot of short exposures will have the advantage of running at a higher ISO and making it easier to capture a dimmer transient event. Then there is the question of darkfield frames. Astrotracer or not? Optimal focal length? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday
You nailed it, Bob! On Pentax Da Meaningful List, the beaty is in the wry of the beheader... iI Bob W-PDML Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:27:13 -0700 wrote: Argue, schmargue! Where would we be sans snark, avec meaning, et sans amusing wryth? On 12 Aug 2015, at 15:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Bob W-PDML Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:41:05 -0700 wrote: You're all arguing about the wrong thing. Question is, is the boat the iTanic or the less well-known Samsunk? B Amusing as always! However, I don't know that I was arguing about anything, Bob. Just responding to the usual meaningless, snarky comment by Igor in what I hoped was a wry and amusing way. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh rant. (WTFM)
OK, that works. Thanks Joe. I thought I already knew how to do that, but must have screwed up renaming the thumb drive. Yikes! What did they do the UI. The rest of my rant still more or less stands, point being that through incompetence or design, Ricoh is making self support much more difficult. I'm betting on incompetence, right now. On 8/13/2015 11:43 AM, jtainter wrote: P.J., read the last seven messages here: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56277246 I was able to install DCU 5 this way (although it still doesn't recognize my DA 16-85). Joe -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CORRECTED PESO: OBENJO
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Can I operate it from my smart phone? I wouldn't be surprised, Frank. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CORRECTED PESO: OBENJO
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:53 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Now you're taking the water. Taking it the butt, if you so choose. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CORRECTED PESO: OBENJO
Can I operate it from my smart phone? There must be an app. Yes but it's really shit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting shooting stars
Jack Davis wrote: Interesting double star on the right prox one third of the way down from the upper frame edge. I can't tell which double star you mean. How long was the exposure? J Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: Since it didn't terribly matter exactly where I was aiming my lens, I used lightroom's panorama feature to string a bunch together including my one meteor, which gave me 16291x2704: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20320189520/sizes/o It seems as if my FA31 and FA77 focus at infinity all of the way at the stop. I tried focusing by aiming a green laser at the trees at the distance. Does anyone know what nebula I captured? It's about halfway between the trees and the right edge of the photo. Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of experience for photographing them? I suspect that a lot of short exposures will have the advantage of running at a higher ISO and making it easier to capture a dimmer transient event. Then there is the question of darkfield frames. Astrotracer or not? Optimal focal length? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Rant, -Pentax- Digital Camera Utility 5
Not just the UI, but the behaviour of the included software tools have always been junk. It's Obligationware: they must include a software DVD because it's expected, but the stuff needn't actually work very well (or at all), so it doesn't. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:41 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well what is there to say. The UI of the now just DCU5, no longer Pentax, is like all things aimed at Win8 being slowly lobotomized. Customizable settings, forgetaboutit. Just gone. I thought that software aimed at XP was getting to look a bit like CandyLand, this is just ridiculous. Change your tool layouts? Sure you can do that but you'll have to redo it every time the program starts. Working in a sub-directory? Not any more. Geez who wrote this crap. PDCU4 was actually getting to be pretty good, huge step up from previous versions. DCU5, is annoying as hell. No wonder no one want's to use it. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting shooting stars
Nice catch indeed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I caught one meteor: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972/ Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of experience for photographing them? I suspect that a lot of short exposures will have the advantage of running at a higher ISO and making it easier to capture a dimmer transient event. Then there is the question of darkfield frames. Astrotracer or not? Optimal focal length? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
CORRECTED PESO: OBENJO
One of the things I enjoyed about Japan is the way they embrace technology (beyond North America and Europe), while holding on to old traditions and habits. Toilets are an example. Although one still finds the traditional porcelain oval on the floor, this is the high-tech model we found in our hotel bathroom: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069314 Here is a close-up of the control panel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069315 Both images were taken with the K-5 II S and DA 18-135 xoom. Benjo, or more politely obenjo, is the more traditional term for a toilet. Literally, it means convenient place. More modern usage is tearai or otearai, meaning hand washing place. Also in common usage today is toire, the Japanese pronunciation of toilet, which is often used were Westerners are expected. In the airports and train stations, one is offered a variety of toilet choices. In a Narita men's room, there were urinals plus 6 stalls: three were high-tech toilets virtually identical to the one in our hotel room; one was the same, but also featured a car seat type of provision for holding a child while one used the toilet; the fifth was a typical American-style toilet, without the bells and whistles; the sixth was a traditional squat-on-the-floor porcelaian oval, for those who cling to the old ways. The Japanese people and culture fascinated me this year as much as when I last visited there, in 1967. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh rant. (WTFM)
P.J., read the last seven messages here: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56277246 I was able to install DCU 5 this way (although it still doesn't recognize my DA 16-85). Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CORRECTED PESO: OBENJO
Can I operate it from my smart phone? There must be an app. Cheers, frank On 13 August, 2015 11:34:55 AM EDT, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: One of the things I enjoyed about Japan is the way they embrace technology (beyond North America and Europe), while holding on to old traditions and habits. Toilets are an example. Although one still finds the traditional porcelain oval on the floor, this is the high-tech model we found in our hotel bathroom: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069314 Here is a close-up of the control panel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069315 Both images were taken with the K-5 II S and DA 18-135 xoom. Benjo, or more politely obenjo, is the more traditional term for a toilet. Literally, it means convenient place. More modern usage is tearai or otearai, meaning hand washing place. Also in common usage today is toire, the Japanese pronunciation of toilet, which is often used were Westerners are expected. In the airports and train stations, one is offered a variety of toilet choices. In a Narita men's room, there were urinals plus 6 stalls: three were high-tech toilets virtually identical to the one in our hotel room; one was the same, but also featured a car seat type of provision for holding a child while one used the toilet; the fifth was a typical American-style toilet, without the bells and whistles; the sixth was a traditional squat-on-the-floor porcelaian oval, for those who cling to the old ways. The Japanese people and culture fascinated me this year as much as when I last visited there, in 1967. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CORRECTED PESO: OBENJO
Now you're taking the water. On 13 August 2015 at 16:51, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Can I operate it from my smart phone? There must be an app. Cheers, frank On 13 August, 2015 11:34:55 AM EDT, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: One of the things I enjoyed about Japan is the way they embrace technology (beyond North America and Europe), while holding on to old traditions and habits. Toilets are an example. Although one still finds the traditional porcelain oval on the floor, this is the high-tech model we found in our hotel bathroom: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069314 Here is a close-up of the control panel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18069315 Both images were taken with the K-5 II S and DA 18-135 xoom. Benjo, or more politely obenjo, is the more traditional term for a toilet. Literally, it means convenient place. More modern usage is tearai or otearai, meaning hand washing place. Also in common usage today is toire, the Japanese pronunciation of toilet, which is often used were Westerners are expected. In the airports and train stations, one is offered a variety of toilet choices. In a Narita men's room, there were urinals plus 6 stalls: three were high-tech toilets virtually identical to the one in our hotel room; one was the same, but also featured a car seat type of provision for holding a child while one used the toilet; the fifth was a typical American-style toilet, without the bells and whistles; the sixth was a traditional squat-on-the-floor porcelaian oval, for those who cling to the old ways. The Japanese people and culture fascinated me this year as much as when I last visited there, in 1967. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
