Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks John. I haven’t been there since 2001, about a year after shooting these.

Paul

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:23 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Great gallery Paul - so evocative of Paris as I knew it. I'm told it's all 
> changed in the years since I was last there (2005).
> 
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica
> 
> I’ve owned both a iiic and my current iiif. In truth, the rangefinder 
> viewfinder location becomes second nature after a short period of regular 
> use. I find the Barnack Leicas delightful in the hand. One of my best 
> photography memories is having shot several rolls of film during a 10 hour 
> self directed walking tour of Paris some twenty years ago. 
> 
> https://www.photo.net/gallery/311283#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:08 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> No I'm talking about where the viewfinder and rangefinder windows are 
>> located on the /back/ of the camera.  They are separate and IIRC not all 
>> that easy to shift ones view from rangefinder to viewfinder.  Quick focus 
>> and compose in my memory problematic.   I find it a lot easier to shift from 
>> the focus window to viewfinder window on the Kodak Medalist, who's 
>> ergonomics could best be described as; "Ergonomics, what's that?"
>> 
>> I'm talking about the IIIc not the much better M3.
>> 
>> Leica IIIcs also not particularly rare. I think they were one of the most 
>> produced Leicas, when I was looking into getting the shutter repaired, it 
>> was actually less expensive to get a copy with a working shutter than get 
>> the jammed shutter fixed. Probably still is since I checked prices and they 
>> often sell for well less than $500 US on ebay, usually, unless they're in 
>> extremely nice condition, less than $300.
>> 
>> On 6/23/2021 3:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  
>> wrote:
> 
> 
> .the viewfinder and rangefinder
> windows are too far apart...
>>> Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, 
>>> the smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in 
>>> linkages.  I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at 
>>> shorter distances.
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RE: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[jcoyle]

Great gallery Paul - so evocative of Paris as I knew it. I'm told it's all 
changed in the years since I was last there (2005).


John in Brisbane



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Subject: Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

I’ve owned both a iiic and my current iiif. In truth, the rangefinder 
viewfinder location becomes second nature after a short period of regular use. 
I find the Barnack Leicas delightful in the hand. One of my best photography 
memories is having shot several rolls of film during a 10 hour self directed 
walking tour of Paris some twenty years ago. 

https://www.photo.net/gallery/311283#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1

Paul

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:08 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> No I'm talking about where the viewfinder and rangefinder windows are 
> located on the /back/ of the camera.  They are separate and IIRC not all that 
> easy to shift ones view from rangefinder to viewfinder.  Quick focus and 
> compose in my memory problematic.   I find it a lot easier to shift from the 
> focus window to viewfinder window on the Kodak Medalist, who's ergonomics 
> could best be described as; "Ergonomics, what's that?"
> 
> I'm talking about the IIIc not the much better M3.
> 
> Leica IIIcs also not particularly rare. I think they were one of the most 
> produced Leicas, when I was looking into getting the shutter repaired, it was 
> actually less expensive to get a copy with a working shutter than get the 
> jammed shutter fixed. Probably still is since I checked prices and they often 
> sell for well less than $500 US on ebay, usually, unless they're in extremely 
> nice condition, less than $300.
> 
> On 6/23/2021 3:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:
 On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> .the viewfinder and rangefinder
>>> windows are too far apart...
>> Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, 
>> the smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in 
>> linkages.  I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at shorter 
>> distances.
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PESO: New Monarch Larvae

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yesterday I received a rearing kit from Monarch Watch:
https://www.monarchwatch.org/
https://shop.monarchwatch.org/product/Rearing-Kit/113232

The kit contains fourteen to sixteen first instar monarch larvae
(caterpillars) which arrive in small cups with concentrated milkweed plant
extract.  I carefully transferred the cups to a net cage containing a
potted Milkweed plant.

My earlier group of larvae came from Rose Franklin's Perennials, and came
packed with Milkweed leaves:
http://www.monarchs-and-milkweed.com/Monarch%20Larvae.htm

The US one cent coin is for size comparison:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/6/23/tiny

K-5 IIs with SMC DA 55 mm F 2.8 Macro Limited
Comments, criticisms, suggestions, and questions are invited and
appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Stanley Halpin]

My father-in-law was an accomplished photographer. After his early retirement 
from his real job he for many years was the photographer for our local 
performing arts center (promo posters, etc.), he also did portraits, shots for 
musicians’ album covers, etc. He did one year-long series of shots from the 
house, looking across/down the river, capturing the seasonal changes; those 
were used by the City for their annual wall calendar that they distribute to 
every household.  He used Nikon, Hasselblad, and Leica gear. I have his M-2 
with a couple of nice looking lenses. When it came to me in 2010 I spent $xxx 
to repair the shutter curtain and a general clean/adjust. But lost my 
enthusiasm for playing with film and it has sat on the shelf since.

Meg has a D-Lux-2 and a newer D-Lux (Type 109), and she mostly uses those 
despite my periodic suggestion that she should use one of my Pentax cameras. 
When we first met she was using a Spotmatic, later moved to an ME Super so that 
we could share our limited set of lenses. But the smaller Leica’s just seem to 
be her preference.

It is not unusual for us, when traveling, to stand side by side taking similar 
pictures of a scene. After we are back home I load everything into Lightroom 
and sort by TimeTaken and click through a preliminary selection. The technical 
quality of my K-5, K-3, and now K-1 shots is always better than her shots with 
a D-Lux, particularly in lower light settings. But we are not losing much if I 
select one of her’s because of a slightly different framing or other 
compositional detail. In the Blurb books I have put together, I can’t imagine 
anybody being able to differentiate which shots are her’s with the Leica and 
which are mine with a Pentax. Maybe based on style, but not based on image 
quality anyway.

Stan

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.
> 
> I saw a friend last weekend who asked if I was interested in a broken Leica.  
> My first thought was that it was some old film era Leica that no longer 
> worked, but which might still have a usable lens. Long story short, it turns 
> out it was a V-Lux4, aka a Lumix FZ-200 pimped out with a red dot.  It had 
> been given to them, but when they turned it on they got some error message, 
> they tried contacting Leica about getting it repaired and Leica said “It’s 
> too old we don’t even touch those any more”.
> 
> My friend dropped it off, the error message was that the clock needed to be 
> set, and there was some weirdness such that after I set the clock, I couldn’t 
> leave that menu, but when I power cycled it, it powered up and worked fine. 
> So I texted my friend that it seems to be fine, do they want it back, and 
> it’s going home sometime in the next day or so.
> 
> But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers who 
> have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!
> 
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Paul Stenquist]

I’ve owned both a iiic and my current iiif. In truth, the rangefinder 
viewfinder location becomes second nature after a short period of regular use. 
I find the Barnack Leicas delightful in the hand. One of my best photography 
memories is having shot several rolls of film during a 10 hour self directed 
walking tour of Paris some twenty years ago. 

https://www.photo.net/gallery/311283#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1

Paul

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:08 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> No I'm talking about where the viewfinder and rangefinder windows are 
> located on the /back/ of the camera.  They are separate and IIRC not all that 
> easy to shift ones view from rangefinder to viewfinder.  Quick focus and 
> compose in my memory problematic.   I find it a lot easier to shift from the 
> focus window to viewfinder window on the Kodak Medalist, who's ergonomics 
> could best be described as; "Ergonomics, what's that?"
> 
> I'm talking about the IIIc not the much better M3.
> 
> Leica IIIcs also not particularly rare. I think they were one of the most 
> produced Leicas, when I was looking into getting the shutter repaired, it was 
> actually less expensive to get a copy with a working shutter than get the 
> jammed shutter fixed. Probably still is since I checked prices and they often 
> sell for well less than $500 US on ebay, usually, unless they're in extremely 
> nice condition, less than $300.
> 
> On 6/23/2021 3:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:
 On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> .the viewfinder and rangefinder
>>> windows are too far apart...
>> Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, 
>> the smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in 
>> linkages.  I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at shorter 
>> distances.
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[mike wilson]

I forgot that was pre-coupling.  My Leica-fu is more fu than Leica.

> On 23 June 2021 at 14:08 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> No I'm talking about where the viewfinder and rangefinder windows are 
> located on the /back/ of the camera.  They are separate and IIRC not all 
> that easy to shift ones view from rangefinder to viewfinder.  Quick 
> focus and compose in my memory problematic.   I find it a lot easier to 
> shift from the focus window to viewfinder window on the Kodak Medalist, 
> who's ergonomics could best be described as; "Ergonomics, what's that?"
> 
> I'm talking about the IIIc not the much better M3.
> 
> Leica IIIcs also not particularly rare. I think they were one of the 
> most produced Leicas, when I was looking into getting the shutter 
> repaired, it was actually less expensive to get a copy with a working 
> shutter than get the jammed shutter fixed. Probably still is since I 
> checked prices and they often sell for well less than $500 US on ebay, 
> usually, unless they're in extremely nice condition, less than $300.
> 
> On 6/23/2021 3:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> .the viewfinder and rangefinder
> >> windows are too far apart...
> > Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, 
> > the smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in 
> > linkages.  I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at 
> > shorter distances.
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Paul Sorenson]

It appears that you have to open and close each image individually...


On 6/23/2021 9:09 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 23.06.21 um 15:25 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

https://www.photo.net/gallery/311283#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1 



I can't any further than the 1st photo...

Ralf

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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 23.06.21 um 15:25 schrieb Paul Stenquist:


https://www.photo.net/gallery/311283#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1


I can't any further than the 1st photo...

Ralf

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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[P. J. Alling]

Yes, but that's an M3 not a IIIc.

On 6/23/2021 4:36 AM, Alan C wrote:

I used to have a photograhy book with a full page advert of a Leica M3!

A friend down the road recently sold his mint M3 with 3 lenses to a 
collector in Cape Town who then sent his own Courier to fetch it.


Alan C

On 22-Jun-21 11:47 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:


[…] It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors 
viewpoint, except it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be 
particularly desirable to use, so it's basically economically 
irreparable.


If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for 
display.


By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an 
elite group except in your own mind.  […]

Then why put it on display?
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[P. J. Alling]

No I'm talking about where the viewfinder and rangefinder windows are 
located on the /back/ of the camera.  They are separate and IIRC not all 
that easy to shift ones view from rangefinder to viewfinder.  Quick 
focus and compose in my memory problematic.   I find it a lot easier to 
shift from the focus window to viewfinder window on the Kodak Medalist, 
who's ergonomics could best be described as; "Ergonomics, what's that?"


I'm talking about the IIIc not the much better M3.

Leica IIIcs also not particularly rare. I think they were one of the 
most produced Leicas, when I was looking into getting the shutter 
repaired, it was actually less expensive to get a copy with a working 
shutter than get the jammed shutter fixed. Probably still is since I 
checked prices and they often sell for well less than $500 US on ebay, 
usually, unless they're in extremely nice condition, less than $300.


On 6/23/2021 3:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


.the viewfinder and rangefinder
windows are too far apart...

Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, the 
smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in linkages.  
I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at shorter distances.
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[mike wilson]

> On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> .the viewfinder and rangefinder 
> windows are too far apart...

Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, the 
smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in linkages.  
I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at shorter distances.
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Alan C]

I used to have a photograhy book with a full page advert of a Leica M3!

A friend down the road recently sold his mint M3 with 3 lenses to a 
collector in Cape Town who then sent his own Courier to fetch it.


Alan C

On 22-Jun-21 11:47 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:



[…] It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors viewpoint, except 
it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be particularly desirable to use, so it's 
basically economically irreparable.

If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for display.

By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite group 
except in your own mind.  […]

Then why put it on display?
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