Re: OT: UK OK?

[Eric Weir]

> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Earth won't mind. We have developed into some kind of nasty infection
> and it will be better off without us.

Amen. Mother Earth provides for us, and the rest of life, generously. Beyond 
our pitiful capabilities of imagining. Ungrateful, we decided she needed 
improving. We see who was the wiser. Still we refuse to learn

The main cause of problems? Solutions! Literally!

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Re: OT: UK OK?

[ann sanfedele]

alas , my browser aint fancy enough to look there .. but I did find some 
maps to look at that let me in :-)


ann

On 8/11/2022 4:45 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

https://geologyviewer.bgs.ac.uk/?_ga=2.78805268.1253513310.1660250677-1942513119.1660250677

On 11 Aug 2022, at 21:43, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Thanks for that very detailed and interesting story of your  neighborhood 
geology/geography.  The chalk substrate I gather is related to the "white cliffs of 
Dover"  ?  And I am off to look at topgraphic maps of England :-)
ann


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Re: OT: UK OK?

[Bob Pdml]

https://geologyviewer.bgs.ac.uk/?_ga=2.78805268.1253513310.1660250677-1942513119.1660250677

On 11 Aug 2022, at 21:43, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Thanks for that very detailed and interesting story of your  neighborhood 
geology/geography.  The chalk substrate I gather is related to the "white 
cliffs of Dover"  ?  And I am off to look at topgraphic maps of England :-)
ann


On 8/11/2022 4:24 PM, mike wilson wrote:
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Re: OT: UK OK?

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks for that very detailed and interesting story of your  
neighborhood geology/geography.  The chalk substrate I gather is related 
to the "white cliffs of Dover"  ?  And I am off to look at topgraphic 
maps of England :-)

ann


On 8/11/2022 4:24 PM, mike wilson wrote:

I live close to a fairly hilly, relatively unpopulated part of England.  In the 
1960s it was mooted that a large reservoir be built there to service the steel 
and chemical industries about 60 miles south on Teesside.  This entailed 
constructing the biggest (at that time) reservoir in Yurp and tunnels from its 
catchment to the river south of that, then another to the river south of 
_that_, the Tees.  The plan being for water from the reservoir to go to the 
first river, then be abstracted and tunneled to the second river before being 
finally abstracted for use in the industrial complexes.

Except the industrial complexes closed/reduced in size/moved elsewhere for 
better tax benefits, etc.  So the water was not needed.  Now the reservoir is a 
major leisure and wildlife resource that just happens to provide drinking water 
to most of the north east of England.

In south eastern England there is a chalk substrate, so groundwater literally 
disappears into the ground when there is a shortage of rain. It is also the 
most highly populated part of the British Isles. When there are complaints of a 
drought, it is mainly this part that is suffering.

Loads of other interesting stuff went on during the local dam's construction 
and first few years of use.  The most fascinating for me was the investigation 
into the collapse of salmon breeding in the host river of the reservoir.  It 
took a long time to work out that salmon fry only start to eat (after relying 
on their yolk sac from birth) when water temperatures reach a certain level.  
At first, the water went past the reservoir dam by being extracted from the 
base - this meant that it was too cold for the fry to start feeding and they 
starved to death.  Once this was realised, extraction was taken from a mix of 
bottom and top valves, allowing the water temperature to be controlled to 
approximate what it should be naturally.  Problem solved.

And I am off to buy a lawn sprinkler.


On 11/08/2022 19:36 ann sanfedele  wrote:

  
The geography of your location interests me - I can't remember what part

of the country you live in .. how is it that it could be so radically
different
in terms of water in alandmass so relatively small?

So awful what you are going through over there... it is unbearable here
too in many  places and river sources are drying up but climate widely
different in our large continent  and air conditioning is pretty widely
available.

ann

On 8/11/2022 1:53 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Blisteringly hot here for the second time this summer.  The ground (clay soil) 
is almost impossible to dig.  I am nursing a spectacular case of sunburn, 
despite being slathered in factor 50 - which can be quite fun in other ways.

Luckily, the extra-high temps only last a week or so but the average 
temperature has also been high for a long time so far.

We are lucky in this region regarding water, due to a huge investment in a 
gigantic reservoir that turned out not to be necessary.  During the 1976/7 
drought the then head of the water company was asked about the possibility of 
rationing and said
"If it stopped raining today and we simultaneously lost all the water in all of our 
other reservoirs, I might have to think about introducing rationing in about 18 months or 
so."

So the plants are still getting watered.

On 11/08/2022 12:19 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

   
I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires could

sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an “unprecedented”
risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because of
bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.

I hope everyone across the pond is and stays safe.  We live in such
difficult times.

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Re: OT: UK OK?

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> On 11 Aug 2022, at 21:24, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> I […]
> In south eastern England there is a chalk substrate, so groundwater literally 
> disappears into the ground when there is a shortage of rain. It is also the 
> most highly populated part of the British Isles. When there are complaints of 
> a drought, it is mainly this part that is suffering.

We have lots of flint though, so when climate change has dragged everyone back 
to the Stone Age we’ll be laughing.

I have a (very dry*) allotment now and when I took it over about a month ago 
the Lord of the allotment explained how it has a good loamy topsoil, then some 
clay, then chalk all the way to Australia. They received a colossal water bill 
last year because there was a huge mains leak that would have flooded anywhere 
else, but just drained into the chalk without anyone noticing a problem.

*no hosepipes allowed even in normal weather, so if you’ve ever seen the film 
Jean de Florette you’ll have an idea of what’s it like to keep it watered.


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Re: OT: UK OK?

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 11.08.22 um 20:23 schrieb Eric Weir:


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/27/james-lovelock-obituary

“The planet we live on has merely to shrug to take some fraction of a million 
people to their deaths,” Lovelock wrote in 2006. “But this is nothing compared 
with what may soon happen; we are now so abusing the Earth that it may rise and 
move back into the hot state it was in 55m years ago, and if it does, most of 
us, and our descendants, will die.”


Earth won't mind. We have developed into some kind of nasty infection
and it will be better off without us.

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Re: OT: UK OK?

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Sadly decades too late and even more decades late. But any mitigation that
delays collapse is good at this point.
Cheers
Eck

Daniel J. Matyola  schrieb am Do. 11. Aug. 2022 um
14:52:

> Ghe American Conress may have just taken a first cautious step toward
> addressing climate change.
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:00 AM Ralf R Radermacher 
> wrote:
>
> > Am 11.08.22 um 13:19 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
> > > I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires
> > could
> > > sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an
> > “unprecedented”
> > > risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because
> > of
> > > bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.
> >
> > It's much the same all over Western Europe. There are even bigger fires
> > in France again. We had one near Berlin in a forest where the local
> > authorities stock and destroy unexplosed ordnance and illegal fireworks,
> > making the work of the fire brigade even more difficult and dangerous.
> >
> > For the first time in living memory, the source of the river Thames has
> > dried up, shipping on the Rhine is severely hampered and the river Po in
> > Northern Italy has been reduced to a rivulet, leaving the vast rice
> > fields in the area high and dry.
> >
> > But, of course, all this has nothing to do with climate change...
> >
> > Ralf
> >
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Re: PESO Wadden Sea pano

[lrc]

Processing or over processing is an artistic choice. I think it works very well.
Nicely done

On August 11, 2022 9:04:51 AM PDT, Toine  wrote:
>Maybe a little over tweaked in the color department (I like it or
>remembered it as is). Since this subject doesn't have any straight lines a
>pano (8 shots portrait handheld, no bracketing or hdr) works perfectly to
>capture the scenery
>
>https://www.repiuk.nl/favorites/#=1=006-750-waddenpano-aug-2022-edit
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Re: OT: UK OK?

[ann sanfedele]

The geography of your location interests me - I can't remember what part 
of the country you live in .. how is it that it could be so radically 
different

in terms of water in alandmass so relatively small?

So awful what you are going through over there... it is unbearable here 
too in many  places and river sources are drying up but climate widely 
different in our large continent  and air conditioning is pretty widely 
available.


ann

On 8/11/2022 1:53 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Blisteringly hot here for the second time this summer.  The ground (clay soil) 
is almost impossible to dig.  I am nursing a spectacular case of sunburn, 
despite being slathered in factor 50 - which can be quite fun in other ways.

Luckily, the extra-high temps only last a week or so but the average 
temperature has also been high for a long time so far.

We are lucky in this region regarding water, due to a huge investment in a 
gigantic reservoir that turned out not to be necessary.  During the 1976/7 
drought the then head of the water company was asked about the possibility of 
rationing and said
"If it stopped raining today and we simultaneously lost all the water in all of our 
other reservoirs, I might have to think about introducing rationing in about 18 months or 
so."

So the plants are still getting watered.

On 11/08/2022 12:19 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

  
I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires could

sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an “unprecedented”
risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because of
bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.

I hope everyone across the pond is and stays safe.  We live in such
difficult times.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO Wadden Sea pano

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Very nice.  I like it.

-p

On 8/11/2022 11:11 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 11.08.22 um 18:04 schrieb Toine:

Maybe a little over tweaked in the color department


Nothing wrong wit it. Nicely done.

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Re: PESO Wadden Sea pano

[ann sanfedele]

Lovely image , Toine
don't understand the technique , but the result is all that counts :-)
ann

On 8/11/2022 12:04 PM, Toine wrote:

Maybe a little over tweaked in the color department (I like it or
remembered it as is). Since this subject doesn't have any straight lines a
pano (8 shots portrait handheld, no bracketing or hdr) works perfectly to
capture the scenery

https://www.repiuk.nl/favorites/#=1=006-750-waddenpano-aug-2022-edit

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Re: OT: UK OK?

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> On Aug 11, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Very strange times...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/27/james-lovelock-obituary

“The planet we live on has merely to shrug to take some fraction of a million 
people to their deaths,” Lovelock wrote in 2006. “But this is nothing compared 
with what may soon happen; we are now so abusing the Earth that it may rise and 
move back into the hot state it was in 55m years ago, and if it does, most of 
us, and our descendants, will die.”

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Re: PESO Wadden Sea pano

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A beautiful image!

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On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:05 PM Toine  wrote:

> Maybe a little over tweaked in the color department (I like it or
> remembered it as is). Since this subject doesn't have any straight lines a
> pano (8 shots portrait handheld, no bracketing or hdr) works perfectly to
> capture the scenery
>
>
> https://www.repiuk.nl/favorites/#=1=006-750-waddenpano-aug-2022-edit
>
> Toine
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Re: PESO Wadden Sea pano

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Am 11.08.22 um 18:04 schrieb Toine:

Maybe a little over tweaked in the color department


Nothing wrong wit it. Nicely done.

Ralf

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PESO Wadden Sea pano

[Toine]

Maybe a little over tweaked in the color department (I like it or
remembered it as is). Since this subject doesn't have any straight lines a
pano (8 shots portrait handheld, no bracketing or hdr) works perfectly to
capture the scenery

https://www.repiuk.nl/favorites/#=1=006-750-waddenpano-aug-2022-edit

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Re: OT: UK OK?

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Am 11.08.22 um 16:16 schrieb Toine:

It's dry, so dry the power plants don't have enough cooling water due to
low water in the rivers.


And the barges supplying their fuel, if it's oil or coal, can only be
loaded at 1/3 or 1/2 of their normal capacity. In some places, the big
Rhine barges have a mere 40 cm (15") of water below their keel. And the
level is still falling at a time when they had hoped to use more coal in
order to save gas for the next winter.

Strange ties indeed.

Ralf

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Re: OT: UK OK?

[Toine]

It's dry, so dry the power plants don't have enough cooling water due to
low water in the rivers. Next winter another horror scenario is planned due
to gas shortage. I'm lucky to have PV panels and inverter AC's installed
last year. Only problem: if the 230V fails the PV panels shut down. Maybe I
need a very very big tesla home battery but it's currently unobtainable and
Lithium is soon in short supply...
What's next? Very strange times...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2022, 14:52 Daniel J. Matyola,  wrote:

> Ghe American Conress may have just taken a first cautious step toward
> addressing climate change.
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:00 AM Ralf R Radermacher 
> wrote:
>
> > Am 11.08.22 um 13:19 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
> > > I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires
> > could
> > > sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an
> > “unprecedented”
> > > risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because
> > of
> > > bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.
> >
> > It's much the same all over Western Europe. There are even bigger fires
> > in France again. We had one near Berlin in a forest where the local
> > authorities stock and destroy unexplosed ordnance and illegal fireworks,
> > making the work of the fire brigade even more difficult and dangerous.
> >
> > For the first time in living memory, the source of the river Thames has
> > dried up, shipping on the Rhine is severely hampered and the river Po in
> > Northern Italy has been reduced to a rivulet, leaving the vast rice
> > fields in the area high and dry.
> >
> > But, of course, all this has nothing to do with climate change...
> >
> > Ralf
> >
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Re: OT: UK OK?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Ghe American Conress may have just taken a first cautious step toward
addressing climate change.

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On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:00 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> Am 11.08.22 um 13:19 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
> > I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires
> could
> > sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an
> “unprecedented”
> > risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because
> of
> > bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.
>
> It's much the same all over Western Europe. There are even bigger fires
> in France again. We had one near Berlin in a forest where the local
> authorities stock and destroy unexplosed ordnance and illegal fireworks,
> making the work of the fire brigade even more difficult and dangerous.
>
> For the first time in living memory, the source of the river Thames has
> dried up, shipping on the Rhine is severely hampered and the river Po in
> Northern Italy has been reduced to a rivulet, leaving the vast rice
> fields in the area high and dry.
>
> But, of course, all this has nothing to do with climate change...
>
> Ralf
>
> --
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Re: OT: UK OK?

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 11.08.22 um 13:19 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:

I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires could
sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an “unprecedented”
risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because of
bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.


It's much the same all over Western Europe. There are even bigger fires
in France again. We had one near Berlin in a forest where the local
authorities stock and destroy unexplosed ordnance and illegal fireworks,
making the work of the fire brigade even more difficult and dangerous.

For the first time in living memory, the source of the river Thames has
dried up, shipping on the Rhine is severely hampered and the river Po in
Northern Italy has been reduced to a rivulet, leaving the vast rice
fields in the area high and dry.

But, of course, all this has nothing to do with climate change...

Ralf

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OT: UK OK?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I am reading that the government in the UK is warning that Wildfires could
sweep across swathes of the country this weekend, with  an “unprecedented”
risk.that devastating blazes may spread into residential areas, because of
bone-dry conditions and powerful wind.

I hope everyone across the pond is and stays safe.  We live in such
difficult times.

Dan Matyola
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Re: Irix 11/4

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love the washing machine shots!

Have fun and share your images with us.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 2:47 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> My new Irix 11/4 arrived today.  I haven’t had a chance to do any serious
> photography with it, but my one word review would be “fun”.
>
> A bit more detailed would be:
> The build quality is impressive.  I did get the higher end (metal rather
> than plastic) version.  The focus ring is nice and smooth.  Unlike my old
> Rokinon 8/3.5 this came with a hyperfocal guide.  I had to calculate and
> make my own for the Rokinon and that was critical for making the lens
> usable.
>
> Note that this lens is manual focus.  Wide open, hyperfocal gives you
> something like 6 feet to infinity, I expect that most of the time I’ll just
> set a focus range and not worry about focusing for specific shots.
>
> This lens has a lot of nice little features:
>
> It is weather sealed.
>
> There is a detent at infinity focus.  If you’re out photographing anything
> beyond about 10 feet away, you could just leave it here not worry about it.
>
> The focus guide is adjustable, If it’s not perfectly calibrated, you can
> remove a cover, loosen a screw and set it properly.
>
> It has a focus lock.  As I said, most of the time I’ll probably use the
> hyperfocal guide and set it for the distance range I’ll be shooting,
> depending on amount of light, and size of room, i.e. will I be
> photographing dancers, or out in the big blue room.
>
> It will tell the camera, electronically, what the focal length is.  It
> being manual focus I was a bit startled when  I powered on the camera and
> didn’t get the screen to set the focal length.
>
> The good news is that it does have a filter holder. The less wonderful
> news is that it is for a gel filter on the back of the lens.
>
> It does not have a manual aperture control ring.
>
> It has an integral lens hood. The lens cap seems to be pretty nice and it
> clicks into place.
>
> Spending the money on it just because it was on sale may not have been the
> wisest move fiscally, but I think it will prove to be one of the best
> mistakes I’ve made in the past few weeks or months.
>
> A few quick snaps to play with the angle of view:
> My washing machine, my miata and my office. I’m a few feet in, so the
> section of the office in view is probably about 8x8 feet.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720301223643
>
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Irix 11/4

[Larry Colen]

My new Irix 11/4 arrived today.  I haven’t had a chance to do any serious 
photography with it, but my one word review would be “fun”.

A bit more detailed would be:
The build quality is impressive.  I did get the higher end (metal rather than 
plastic) version.  The focus ring is nice and smooth.  Unlike my old Rokinon 
8/3.5 this came with a hyperfocal guide.  I had to calculate and make my own 
for the Rokinon and that was critical for making the lens usable.  

Note that this lens is manual focus.  Wide open, hyperfocal gives you something 
like 6 feet to infinity, I expect that most of the time I’ll just set a focus 
range and not worry about focusing for specific shots.

This lens has a lot of nice little features:

It is weather sealed.

There is a detent at infinity focus.  If you’re out photographing anything 
beyond about 10 feet away, you could just leave it here not worry about it.

The focus guide is adjustable, If it’s not perfectly calibrated, you can remove 
a cover, loosen a screw and set it properly.  

It has a focus lock.  As I said, most of the time I’ll probably use the 
hyperfocal guide and set it for the distance range I’ll be shooting, depending 
on amount of light, and size of room, i.e. will I be photographing dancers, or 
out in the big blue room.  

It will tell the camera, electronically, what the focal length is.  It being 
manual focus I was a bit startled when  I powered on the camera and didn’t get 
the screen to set the focal length.  

The good news is that it does have a filter holder. The less wonderful news is 
that it is for a gel filter on the back of the lens. 

It does not have a manual aperture control ring.  

It has an integral lens hood. The lens cap seems to be pretty nice and it 
clicks into place.

Spending the money on it just because it was on sale may not have been the 
wisest move fiscally, but I think it will prove to be one of the best mistakes 
I’ve made in the past few weeks or months.

A few quick snaps to play with the angle of view:
My washing machine, my miata and my office. I’m a few feet in, so the section 
of the office in view is probably about 8x8 feet.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720301223643

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