Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
On 19 September 2012 07:30, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 17/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we might all be chipping in to buy Cotty a new hat sometime soon. ;-) Well I hate to say it, but even I might have to agree with you. BUT do you think Photokina is where they will announce a FF? I somehow doubt it. But I think it could only be a matter of months away to an announcement... I agree, Cotty. It would be such a huge announcement for dozens of people that it makes sense to do it after the Photokina craze has died down. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
On 17/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we might all be chipping in to buy Cotty a new hat sometime soon. ;-) Well I hate to say it, but even I might have to agree with you. BUT do you think Photokina is where they will announce a FF? I somehow doubt it. But I think it could only be a matter of months away to an announcement... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
On 9/19/2012 7:30 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 17/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we might all be chipping in to buy Cotty a new hat sometime soon. ;-) Well I hate to say it, but even I might have to agree with you. BUT do you think Photokina is where they will announce a FF? I somehow doubt it. But I think it could only be a matter of months away to an announcement... I've already predicted, just a bit too late for the Christmas buying season. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Once again Leica provides the comic relief. I've been chuckling since they announced this earlier in the afternoon (please don't ask why I was waiting for it). The M-E looks for all the World to be an M9. Maybe it's missing a few things, but essentially that's what it is. So what Leica is saying to all the people that bought the M9 is: your camera is really f***ing underspec'd, but we didn't want to tell you until now, when we're releasing an upgrade with more features (that $500 cameras from other makers have had for years). Oh, and we're going to now sell the M9 under a different name for $1,500 less than you paid for yours. Thanks for being a loyal sucker. I'd heard there was a shortage of brass in the market and now I see where it went. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 17 September 2012 19:14, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
The M-E's stripped down feature set is so similar to the M9 it might as well be the same camera. So $5500 instead of $7000 ... it's a great savings. I hardly use anything but those stripped down features anyway. That the new M, with weather sealing, new 24Mpixel sensor, RF and EVF, 1080p video, etc etc etc, is still the same $7000 that the M9 was is nothing short of a bargain for this class of camera. Another year and I'll be putting in my order .. my M9 is too new to off just yet. :-) G On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
I could never afford one but it's about what I would want in a digital rangefinder. As for the version of Photoshop, it won't let you crop. Leica rangefinder photography does not permit cropping. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: September 17, 2012 9/17/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ... I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Newer stuff in the electronics world generally gets you more for less money. That's the way it's been for 50 years at least, with each successive generation of electronic equipment. Happily, the new M looks to be exactly what I was hoping for, and the price is no higher than what I paid for the M9. Bravo, Leica! G On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Once again Leica provides the comic relief. I've been chuckling since they announced this earlier in the afternoon (please don't ask why I was waiting for it). The M-E looks for all the World to be an M9. Maybe it's missing a few things, but essentially that's what it is. So what Leica is saying to all the people that bought the M9 is: your camera is really f***ing underspec'd, but we didn't want to tell you until now, when we're releasing an upgrade with more features (that $500 cameras from other makers have had for years). Oh, and we're going to now sell the M9 under a different name for $1,500 less than you paid for yours. Thanks for being a loyal sucker. I'd heard there was a shortage of brass in the market and now I see where it went. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 17 September 2012 19:14, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bruce Walker wrote: I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder There's also the Leica M - a full-featured full-frame Leica (24 megapixels) for a bit more money. They're the 5th and 6th full-frame cameras to be introduced in the past week... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18 September 2012 10:13, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: They're the 5th and 6th full-frame cameras to be introduced in the past week... Seriously it will never be viable ;) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 September 2012 10:13, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: They're the 5th and 6th full-frame cameras to be introduced in the past week... Seriously it will never be viable ;) I think we might all be chipping in to buy Cotty a new hat sometime soon. ;-) G Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm sorry, but Leica cameras exist in my universe like Rolex watches exist in my universe (which is to say, I know people for whom status symbols are important but I am unwilling to pay full price for the name)*. Which is not to say that I won't pick up a new in-the-box Mont Blanc Meisterstuck for $15 when I see one at the thrift store (which I did). : ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
The pull quote, Leica announces a more affordable rangefinder: You mean it's not? On 9/17/2012 7:27 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I could never afford one but it's about what I would want in a digital rangefinder. As for the version of Photoshop, it won't let you crop. Leica rangefinder photography does not permit cropping. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: September 17, 2012 9/17/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ... I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
From: Bruce Walker I present the new Leica M-E: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Leica-M-E-18MP-stripped-down-full-frame-rangefinder It's full-frame, has a completely stripped-down feature set, and has a suitably insane pricetag. Comes with something called Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I wonder if that's stripped-down too? Only allows cropping, because that's all a photographer should need, dammit. Sure is purty! Someone let me know if they strip the price back to something I can afford. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
