Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-19 Thread AlunFoto
Mark Roberts wrote: Keep in mind that most of the peer judging is apparently done by Jostein. ;-) This looks like the ultimate occasion to quote Henrik Ibsen: Peer, you're lying. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-19 Thread Jack Davis
LOL Frank, that sure makes me feel better. Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 10:22 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that most of the peer judging is apparently done by Jostein. ;-) One can't know what to expect from peer judging

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: One can't know what to expect from peer judging when one is peerless... Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-19 Thread Bob Blakely
I like it Bruce. I'm into Slice o' Life photography myself. There's nothing wrong with your photo. You're just dealing with folks who prefer to see bugs, birds such. These people can be recognized buy their profound utterances, such as: Hibble bibble bobble bibble bop. Gubble gobble gabble

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-19 Thread Mark Roberts
BTW: I just noticed a thread on the DPReview Pentax board started by a photographer who submits to two judged for admission galleries, the Pentax Gallery and Onexposure.net. It seems all the photos rejected by Pentax are accepted by Onexposure.net... and all the ones rejected by Onexposure

RE: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-18 Thread Henk Terhell
I e-mailed them once at least half a year ago and got no reply. Then I lost my interest. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: 18 December, 2007 8:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax gallery

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-18 Thread Bong Manayon
at least half a year ago and got no reply. Then I lost my interest. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: 18 December, 2007 8:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax gallery etc. Hi Tom

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling
You forgot to mention the aperture simulator... Stan Halpin wrote: http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html PESO = Photo Every So Often GESO = Gallery Every So Often PAW = Photo A Week Using these as subject-line email headers allows the use of filters for those who want to divert,

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-18 Thread Thomas Wannenburg
ago and got no reply. Then I lost my interest. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: 18 December, 2007 8:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax gallery etc. Hi Tom Send them another message

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-18 Thread Brian Walters
Yes, that's certainly true Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting Thomas Wannenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Brian and Henk, Its a really nice gallery so I would be proud to have a

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-17 Thread Peter
Hi: My two cents is that I find the kid's tongue visually distracting, my eye has to look twice to see if it's just a really large lollipop or something else. His facial expression seems to produce a sense of unease too. What am I supposed to be feeling when I look at the photo? P. On 12/14/07,

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2007-12-17 Thread Thomas Wannenburg
I have been off the list for a long time and just got back. Since I got back: what is a PESO, GESO, and PAW? I get that they are image submissions but what do the acronyms mean? I looked for a FAQ and couldn't find one. I stumbled on the Pentax Photo Gallery and emailed them to ask if I

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-17 Thread Stan Halpin
http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html PESO = Photo Every So Often GESO = Gallery Every So Often PAW = Photo A Week Using these as subject-line email headers allows the use of filters for those who want to divert, or delete, messages involving posting and discussion of members'

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-17 Thread Bong Manayon
Hello... How long ago did you email Pentax Photo Gallery? I takes them awhile to reply and I doubt if they would turn you down. That's the easy part ... Cheers! Bong On Dec 18, 2007 12:58 AM, Thomas Wannenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been off the list for a long time and just got

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-17 Thread Thomas Wannenburg
Hi Bong, Thanks for the reply, its been about two weeks. I used the email thingy on the website. Tom On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Bong Manayon wrote: Hello... How long ago did you email Pentax Photo Gallery? I takes them awhile to reply and I doubt if they would turn you down.

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-17 Thread Thomas Wannenburg
Thanks, that makes so much sense. On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html PESO = Photo Every So Often GESO = Gallery Every So Often PAW = Photo A Week Using these as subject-line email headers allows the use of filters for those who

Re: Pentax gallery etc.

2007-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Tom Send them another message. It shouldn't take that long and there's no reason why they'd turn you down. For future reference, there's a PDML FAQ here: http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney,

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-16 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Dave. ...is there something that says who's photo it is.?? No, not in the voting stage. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Ken, your 600mm shots have always amazed me

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread Dario Bonazza
Bruce Dayton wrote: You may be right - what I have seen lately is similar. Dramatic landscapes or major wildlife (600/4 territory) seem to dominate these days. People, slice of life and such don't seem to do very well. My hit rate these days is down to about 1 in 30 - even though I have

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread Dario Bonazza
Bruce Dayton wrote: Here are the current counts for the categories: Let's sort them: Nature - 1077 Landscapes - 907 Travel - 474 (mostly nature/landscape again) Cityscape/Urban - 466 (sort of landscape, isn't it?) Macro - 464 (mostly nature again) Wildlife - 446 (again) Total for

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread Jack Davis
The slant may tend to reflect the ratio of submissions. The acceptance, as a percentage of offerings, is an unknown. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the current counts for the categories: Abstract - 283 BW - 292 Cityscape/Urban - 466 Documentary - 295 Food - 67

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
I have recently submitted 3 landscape shots, all we're rejected in about 4-5 days or so. I submitted another today, landscape/BW themes, so we'll see. Although the four pictures that did make it, we're submitted early and most likely accepted on a we may not get a lot of response feelings, are

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
Not sure if i commented on the shot Bruce, but if viewing on the photo gallery would have given it a thumbs up. Its the kid to the left that helps make the photo IMO Dave On Dec 15, 2007 1:03 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might expect that of the final judges, but the peer

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread Jack Davis
I agree. No matter the subject, there is no question that it's much more difficult to get an image accepted now than was the case in the beginning. Not disagreeing with Paul that there may be a genre sensitive policy in place, but it's clear that landscapes bounce back as declined freely and with

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread David Savage
My last set of submissions had a 25% success rate. 2x landscapes (both declined) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9690.jpg 1x Action/sport/people (declined)

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread Ken Waller
posters with a lot of accepted images are being rejected outright. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery You may be right - what I have seen lately is similar. Dramatic landscapes or major

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm beginning to think that somehow posters with a lot of accepted images KW are being rejected outright. KW Kenneth Waller KW http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f KW - Original Message - KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery You may be right - what I have seen

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:26:12PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: You may be right. You have submitted some great stuff and I would expect your level of submissions to be fairly consistent. If they are rejecting as you surmise, it would be good of them to let us know so that we don't waste time

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
outright. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery You may be right - what I have seen lately is similar. Dramatic landscapes or major wildlife (600/4 territory) seem to dominate these days

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2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was rather surprised that the photo I recently showed of the kid with lollipop was declined without even making it to the judges. I would have thought it would have made it through the peer judging. Let me know if I am perceiving

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2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was rather surprised that the photo I recently showed of the kid with lollipop was declined without even making it to the judges. I would have thought it would have made it through the peer judging. Let me know if I am perceiving

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce, why do not think it was not seen by the judges? Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was rather surprised that the photo I recently showed of the kid with lollipop was declined without even making it to the judges. I

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jack, speed of rejection - about 1 day. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, December 14, 2007, 3:31:13 PM, you wrote: JD Bruce, why do not think it was not seen by the judges? JD Jack JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've found it's very hard to get a kid pic in the gallery. I've only made it with one of hers. The blowing bubbles shot was rejected in one day. Based on what PDML members indicated in terms of recent accepted pics, only dramatic landscapes make the grade. I rarely submit any more. In

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
So you are indicating a no vote - at least that is what I am hearing...which is fine, just trying to learn. -- Bruce Friday, December 14, 2007, 3:25:01 PM, you wrote: JT I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was rather JT surprised that the photo I recently showed of the kid

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2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
Well that would be presumptions of me. You are a far better photographer than I am. I'm just guessing here. Joe - So you are indicating a no vote - at least that is what I am hearing...which is fine, just trying to learn. -- Bruce Friday, December 14, 2007, 3:25:01 PM, you wrote: JT

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
You may be right - what I have seen lately is similar. Dramatic landscapes or major wildlife (600/4 territory) seem to dominate these days. People, slice of life and such don't seem to do very well. My hit rate these days is down to about 1 in 30 - even though I have two in the collection and

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce, I told you to include a little more of the right side guy's face. ;-)) Jack --- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that would be presumptions of me. You are a far better photographer than I am. I'm just guessing here. Joe - So you are indicating a no vote -

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Jack Davis
Remember my speedy rejection whine awhile back? I contacted Carolyn who said that she had, also, had a one day rejection, was going to re-submit her image and suggested I do the same. She stated that there had been some voting issues during that particular time. I did re-submit my image and it was

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I first posted it here to get ideas on cropping - only one person suggested taking out everything but the boy - everyone else felt there was some context to be had by leaving some of the teammates in. Thanks for your thoughts. I am trying to figure out what is worth submitting these days. --

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I may do that - my reason to ask here is to see if most people also feel it should have been rejected or not. If most do, then it isn't worth resubmitting and I learn something more about my photos. For this one, I felt it was better than a quick rejection - but maybe I'm wrong. -- Bruce

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread pnstenquist
I was better than a quick rejection, but I doubt that you could get it accepted. I don't think it's what they're looking for. Fair? Maybe not, but that seems to be the way things are. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I may do that

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: So you are indicating a no vote - at least that is what I am hearing...which is fine, just trying to learn. I don't think I would have expected that photo to make the cut, Bruce. The bar is set very high these days. That photo has just enough shortcomings (composition and

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Jack Davis
I don't know why that would be the case, but there is no question that you're in a position to realistically assess the work you're offering and have the experience and detachment needed to objectively judge its merits. Naive it may be, but while there is no question the bar has been raised, I

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread pnstenquist
I don't know why it would be the case either, but observation suggests that only landscapes have a fair chance of acceptance. I'm okay with that. Perhaps the judges feel they need more of that genre. But I do believe it's very difficult to score in some categories. Paul --

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Brian Walters
Well, I'd give it a thumbs up if it came up whiile I was voting. Definitely worth a resubmission in my view. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need to

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I might expect that of the final judges, but the peer reviewing is one of the concerns. -- Bruce Friday, December 14, 2007, 5:42:33 PM, you wrote: MR Bruce Dayton wrote: So you are indicating a no vote - at least that is what I am hearing...which is fine, just trying to learn. MR I don't

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Here are the current counts for the categories: Abstract - 283 BW - 292 Cityscape/Urban - 466 Documentary - 295 Food - 67 Glamour/Fashion - 38 Landscapes - 907 Lifestyle - 189 Macro - 464 Nature - 1077 Portraiture - 327 Sports/Action - 123 Travel - 474 Wildlife - 446 Yeah, when you look at the

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-12-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/14/2007 4:24:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I first posted it here to get ideas on cropping - only one person suggested taking out everything but the boy - everyone else felt there was some context to be had by leaving some of the teammates in.

Pentax Gallery Mystery

2007-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
So far today I've noticed five strange images on my Artist's Page in awaiting review status. Anyone else experienced this? Must be duplicate artist's numbers.(?) I deleted them and have sent Carolyn two advisory emails. Jack __ Do You Yahoo!?

Re: Pentax Gallery Mystery

2007-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
I'm going to closely monitor my submissions page 'til I hear from Carolyn. She, of course, won't receive the emails until tomorrow earliest. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see anything unusual on my page - maybe it is what you said - duplicate artist ID. -- Bruce

Re: Pentax Gallery Mystery

2007-11-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
I don't see anything unusual on my page - maybe it is what you said - duplicate artist ID. -- Bruce Sunday, November 4, 2007, 9:15:50 AM, you wrote: JD So far today I've noticed five strange images on my Artist's Page in JD awaiting review status. Anyone else experienced this? JD Must be

Re: Pentax Gallery Mystery

2007-11-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote: So far today I've noticed five strange images on my Artist's Page in awaiting review status. Anyone else experienced this? Must be duplicate artist's numbers.(?) I deleted them and have sent Carolyn two advisory emails. You might want to change your password. Just in case.

Re: Pentax Gallery Mystery

2007-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
I'm going to give it another day or so, but is a good suggestion. Been no additional images show up on my Artist's Page and I've come across a couple of the images while voting. Want'a guess how I voted? It's OK, they were bad. :) Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote:

Pentax Gallery Wonkeyness

2007-10-13 Thread Jack Davis
Wasn't but a few weeks ago it took about two weeks for a decision to be made on offerings to the Pentax Gallery. Happened to my last five which I had posted over a period of a few days. All five were declined at the same time after a couple weeks, as I said. Two days ago I offered the two Bodie

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
I couldn't even bring myself to make my comment... Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
The judge's criteria.(?) Same thing as having a print accepted into a juried exhibit. Not a competition unless ultimately vying for ribbons again other accepted work. Obviously not the case with the Pentax Gallery. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-29 Thread Cymen Vig
On 9/27/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? And it's a moving target, to boot. You never know who may be voting on your

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation The judge's criteria.(?) Same thing as having a print accepted into a juried exhibit. Not a competition unless ultimately vying for ribbons again other accepted work. Obviously not the case

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, the judge's criteria..what else? Now, let's move on.(?) Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation The judge's criteria.(?) Same thing as having a print accepted into a juried exhibit

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Bob W
: 27 September 2007 23:10 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? As far as the Pentax Gallery goes

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: There have been occassions when a dissenting opinion has triggered an outpouring of loathing and abuse at the transgressor, also. Yes, it puzzles me greatly. I just cannot imagine how deeply invested in their views about someone else's photos these folks must be. There

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Walters
Agreed - it is irritating, and the acceptance/rejection procedure is inconsistent. Several people have resubmitted images that were previously declined and had them accepted. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Jack Davis
overanalyzing. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT) ..especially kind people. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation I don't see this as a competition. I'm not hoping to win Best of Show, just a good enough nod. If you are wanting to get a picture into a judged gallery, then what you are hjoping is that your picture

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Tom C
We went to Crufts in London every year for 4 years... The secret of longevity? Tom C. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:35:36 +0100 On 27/09/07, William

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And I'm a bit more enthusiastic about my photography - and that has to be a good thing... I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo that I submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I really don't know ~why~)

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Jack Davis
I don't see this as a competition. I'm not hoping to win Best of Show, just a good enough nod. Best set your A alarm. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Actually, I consider I'm just

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/07, Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H Should you send a picture of something disagreeable - but what if that were then accepted? We all know you take great pictures anyway, so why worry. I'm not worried. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Tom C
From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb Different sides of the same coin? I need to back up a step. The reality is that most non-photographer people look

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote: The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. The same holds true for a lot of photographer people. And that's not *necessarily* a bad thing. The tendency to over-intellectualize and/or nit-pick can be just as unproductive

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Tom C
Certainly, they do. But then the brain should probably get involved. Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:32:56 -0400

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread pnstenquist
/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi Frank, I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo that I submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I really don't know ~why~) doesn't do much for my enthusiasm... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Perhaps they

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Norm Baugher
You obviously learned a lot from her... Norm Cotty wrote: Oh boy. I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. The same holds true for alot of photographer people. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. I agree. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
The standard is there to be seen, but you need to learn how, and then be willing to judge your own pictures against those of others. Bingo ! Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I've judged a few contests. They are pretty damned subjective. You wanna see really subjective judging, start hanging out at dog shows. Oh boy. I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. She had a cross lab/collie called Sherpa -

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread mike wilson
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that please just myself. You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed, baby girls. From

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread mike wilson
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that please just myself. You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed baby girls. From

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty wrote: I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty. She trained *me* :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

RE: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Bob W
/0140190740/ ref=sr_1_1/026-6533884-2100457?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1191003104sr=8-1 -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 27 September 2007 23:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/09/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: You obviously learned a lot from her... I certainly learned how to beg! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical droppings from the rear of a bull,snip Bob, You've got a way with words... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/28/2007 2:11:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed, baby girls. From my experience, totally out of focus or completely misexposed are merely not very good. All others are excellent or superb.

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Tom C wrote: On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical droppings from the rear of a bull,snip Bob, You've got a way with words... ;-) cheers, frank I saw the mystical droppings from the rear of a dog lying on the sidewalk

Re: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Tom C
On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical droppings from the rear of a bull,snip Bob, You've got a way with words... ;-) cheers, frank I saw the mystical droppings from the rear of a dog lying on the sidewalk yesterday and almost took a

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation That's true to some extent. But on a list like this, which is largely a social community, one has to exercise some restraint. In the past, one member

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread Jack Davis
No, just subjectively judged as good enough. Nothing to do with where it may fall in the balance of accepted or declined. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation I don't see

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 03:01:38PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Tom C wrote: On 9/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical droppings from the rear of a bull,snip Bob, You've got a way with words... ;-) cheers, frank I saw

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation No, just subjectively judged as good enough. Nothing to do with where it may fall in the balance of accepted or declined. Well then, good enough as compared to what? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 27 September 2007 05:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Strange. I really thought that you were rather competitive person, Cotty. I am fairly competitive

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty has always striven to be the least competitive person. If he finds someone less competitive than himself, he works and works, and trains and trains until he is less competitive than the other person. He can't stand it if someone is less

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: I really thought that you were rather competitive person, Cotty. I am fairly competitive, but in photography I don't feel any desire to prove anything. So I don't really participate in competitions... My competitive side extends solely

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu AM 03:24:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Gonz wrote: Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare. wabbit

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Rebekah
Frank, I think your photographs are beautiful. Screw the gallery. rg2 On 9/27/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu AM 03:24:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip I agree 100%! Funny thing is, I didn't see The Pentax Gallery as a competition. I thought that as long as the photos met a minimum standard, they were in, and it would

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip I agree 100%! Funny thing is, I didn't see The Pentax Gallery as a competition. I thought that as long as the photos met a minimum standard

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