Re: Grain desolving programs - using a mask

2004-12-26 Thread Lon Williamson
Rob Studdert wrote: On 20 Dec 2004 at 12:00, wendy beard wrote: Lon, Can you post it to the list? I have been doing a lot of high ISO shooting recently and am looking for a decent noise-reduction/sharpening technique Unfortunately attempting to eliminate image noise/grain via the use of

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-21 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 20, 2004, at 11:45 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Unfortunately attempting to eliminate image noise/grain via the use of edge masks gives quite poor results compared to the better dedicated noise removal tools. I use edge masking techniques after grain removal on occasion but it is really image

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Dec 2004 at 8:58, Jon Glass wrote: In my case, I'm mostly concerned about reducing red channel noise from skies from my digital camera, so I would suppose that a simple masking and performing this on just the sky would not be too much of an issue. Yes generally much simpler than edge

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-20 Thread Lon Williamson
One trick you can use is an edge mask. Use it one way to reduce grain, then invert the mask and use the inverse to sharpen. I can email you more specifically on this technique if you'd like. -Lon Joseph Tainter wrote: I have used Digital GEM and ISOX Pro. I am not satisfied with either one. They

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-20 Thread Jon Glass
It seems to me that this technique would be of general interest. Could you post it here, or do you have a web page that describes the process? Thanks On Dec 20, 2004, at 1:46 PM, Lon Williamson wrote: One trick you can use is an edge mask. Use it one way to reduce grain, then invert the mask

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-20 Thread wendy beard
--- Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One trick you can use is an edge mask. Use it one way to reduce grain, then invert the mask and use the inverse to sharpen. I can email you more specifically on this technique if you'd like. -Lon Lon, Can you post it to the list? I have been

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-20 Thread Brendan
Most noise reduction programs used for Digital cameras do a good job on film gran if they allow you to make custom profiles, Neat image is a good example of one. I have had some success with Neat image's demo and noise ninja on film grain, it can make skin look plasticy but since you havecontrol

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Dec 2004 at 12:00, wendy beard wrote: Lon, Can you post it to the list? I have been doing a lot of high ISO shooting recently and am looking for a decent noise-reduction/sharpening technique Unfortunately attempting to eliminate image noise/grain via the use of edge masks gives

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-17 Thread Jack Davis
worked better. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Grain desolving programs Grain Surgery seems highly regarded, it can remove, synthesize and match grain patterns

Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Jack Davis
Another naive subjective dip in the list knowledge well.. Do grain dissolving programs effectively discern what is grain? Are you left with an unrecoverable soft image? Does re-sharpening revive the grain and defeat the effect? Which program(s)

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Alin Flaider
Jack, Picture Window Pro features a function named Advanced sharpening that allows you to selectively smooth grain or apply sharpen based on a details histogram. The results are quite impressive: it is very easy for instance to smoothen sky while not touching landscape details and

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:53:01 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis wrote: Do grain dissolving programs effectively discern what is grain? Are you left with an unrecoverable soft image? Does re-sharpening revive the grain and defeat the effect? I've used NeatImage (neatimage.com) to good effect on quite a

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
I have used Digital GEM and ISOX Pro. I am not satisfied with either one. They soften the image too much. If I then sharpen, the grain/noise just comes back. Anyone found a better plug-in for this? Joe

SV: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Joakim Johansson
http://www.imagenomic.com/ Try this! /Joakim --- I have used Digital GEM and ISOX Pro. I am not satisfied with either one. They soften the image too much. If I then sharpen, the grain/noise just comes back. Anyone found a

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Herb Chong
would have worked better. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Grain desolving programs Grain Surgery seems highly regarded, it can remove, synthesize and match grain patterns

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Dec 2004 at 7:53, Jack Davis wrote: Another naive subjective dip in the list knowledge well.. Do grain dissolving programs effectively discern what is grain? Are you left with an unrecoverable soft image? Does re-sharpening revive the grain and