Re: PESO An Avian Irony

Really beautiful, Paul. I've never seen either of those warblers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Of sorts. I don’t recall ever seeing a Warbler in my yard until yesterday, > when

PESO An Avian Irony

Of sorts. I don’t recall ever seeing a Warbler in my yard until yesterday, when at least three appeared, all different species. This one appears to be a Chestnut-Sided Warbler. Perhaps it has something to do with migration, and they heard I had food and water.

PESO - Irony

Well, it made me smile, anyway: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/03/irony.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Firmware upgrade v1.03 K-5, the irony

K-5 is a great piece of engineering, no doubts about that but I'd had privilege to grow from *istDL countless snapshots, through the K100 and K20' and now I think more before I push that button full down. The irony is I'd done more firmware upgrades than I had photos with K-5 lately... http

Re: Firmware upgrade v1.03 K-5, the irony

snapshots, through the K100 and K20' and now I think more before I push that button full down. The irony is I'd done more firmware upgrades than I had photos with K-5 lately... http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Firmware upgrade v1.03 K-5, the irony

more before I push that button full down. The irony is I'd done more firmware upgrades than I had photos with K-5 lately... http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Firmware upgrade v1.03 K-5, the irony

On Mar 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote: K-5 is a great piece of engineering, no doubts about that but I'd had privilege to grow from *istDL countless snapshots, through the K100 and K20' and now I think more before I push that button full down. The irony is I'd done more firmware

OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

http://www.vimeo.com/7484260 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

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Nope. Just a pretty girl. DS 2009/11/10 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: http://www.vimeo.com/7484260 -- Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

Looks like she was using an ME Super to photograph the Eiffel Tower... Chris -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: 10 November 2009 11:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT Anyone see the irony

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

Chris Mitchell wrote: Looks like she was using an ME Super to photograph the Eiffel Tower... And when she was standing in front of the Moulin Rouge the sign above rotated to show the letters LBA. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

The Me Super, the flare off the building and, most of all, the LBA sign! Dario - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-) http

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

From: David Savage Nope. Just a pretty girl. DS 2009/11/10 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: http://www.vimeo.com/7484260 She's shooting film at the beginning of the clip. I think it might even be a K1000. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

I'd guess the irony is that she was using a manual film camera in the video, while the video itself, nicely done, was only possible with modern technology and likely a Canon DSLR. Tom On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.vimeo.com/7484260

RE: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

http://www.vimeo.com/7484260 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) It's Ken Rockwell in drag. And he's using a Pentax. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

On 11/11/2009, Tom Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote: I'd guess the irony is that she was using a manual film camera in the video, while the video itself, nicely done, was only possible with modern technology and likely a Canon DSLR. Yep, she's shooting classic Pentax whilst the movie is being

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

Bob W wrote: http://www.vimeo.com/7484260 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) It's Ken Rockwell in drag. And he's using a Pentax. Bob Whoa! If Canon can do that to Kenny, I'm switching systems! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:42:36AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote: On 11/11/2009, Tom Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote: I'd guess the irony is that she was using a manual film camera in the video, while the video itself, nicely done, was only possible with modern technology and likely a Canon

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.vimeo.com/7484260 No, but some French guy with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth and smoke in his face thinks it's sublime. Is that French for pretentious pap? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a

Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

frank theriault wrote: Is that French for pretentious pap? No, it's French for French. :-) Or French Canadian in a pinch. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

RE: Irony

Irony is the new black. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bTW4kDaWogwfeature=related Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air Traffic Controllers. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

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. -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely b...@blakely.com Sent: Jan 3, 2009 7:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Irony Under our system, the government has no rights, only powers, and only those granted to it by the Constitution. Hamilton's opinion may be interesting

Re: Irony

with a federal charter. From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Hamilton probably wouldn't have thought so. From: Bob Blakely b...@blakely.com That wold be the unconstitutional bank, right. From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Real Irony is putting the face of the president who destroyed

Re: Irony

2009/1/3 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin ear for these sort of things anyway!!! We are rusting our stainless reputation! Any PDML thread

Re: Irony

I smelt a pun thread. Dave On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:22 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/3 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin

Re: Irony

ann sanfedele wrote: John Graves wrote: John Graves wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite

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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Irony Hamilton probably wouldn't have thought so. -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely b...@blakely.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 4:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Irony

Irony

Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air Traffic Controllers. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

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On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air Traffic Controllers. I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Irony

Glad we could ferrite that out. Jostein 2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air Traffic Controllers. I thought

Re: Irony

AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air Traffic Controllers. I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could

Re: Irony

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:44:15 -0500 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air

Re: Irony

-Original Message- From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Irony Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired the Air Traffic Controllers. Real Irony

Re: Irony

-Original Message- From: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 11:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Irony On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming

Re: Irony

Yes, enduring this pun onslaught will certainly test your metal. Jack --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: Irony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:44 AM AlunFoto wrote

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On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Yes, enduring this pun onslaught will certainly test your metal. Jack --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: Irony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date

Re: Irony

Or it could be just a slip of tungsten . . . Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com 1/2/2009 12:21 PM Yes, enduring this pun onslaught will certainly test your metal. Jack --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: Irony

Re: Irony

The Scotsman with the sheep was just rusticating. Rick --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: Irony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 11:44 AM AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2

Re: Irony

--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: Irony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:44 AM AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin

Re: Irony

Subject: Re: Irony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:44 AM AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony is naming an airport after the guy that fired

Re: Irony

msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: Irony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:44 AM AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep. Irony

Re: Irony

Another Zinker... -Original Message- From: John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net Sent: Jan 2, 2009 12:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Irony I have a tin ear for these sort of things anyway!!! John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Steve Desjardins wrote

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I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Nah - irony is what I had two of installed to overcome the pain of arthritis Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com Subject: Re: Irony On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Re: Irony

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nah - irony is what I had two of installed to overcome the pain of arthritis I thought those were made of ti-tay-knee-um. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Irony

Real Irony is putting the face of the president who destroyed the US' first central bank, setting the economy back 50 years, on the $20 dollar bill. I agree, I'd much rather see the backside of Barney Frank or Chris Dodd - the real a**holes responsible for the current financial bailout

Re: Irony

Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com Subject: Re: Irony On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nah - irony is what I had two of installed to overcome the pain of arthritis I

Re: Irony

I guess I agree with that. There's an even bigger irony of Jackson being on the twenty. It's issued by a central bank... -Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 2:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Irony Real Irony

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2009/1/2 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin ear for these sort of things anyway!!! We are rusting our stainless reputation! Any PDML

Re: Irony

AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin ear for these sort of things anyway!!! We are rusting our stainless

Re: Irony

- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin ear

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2009/1/2 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin ear for these sort of things anyway!!! We are rusting our stainless reputation! Any PDML

Re: Irony

) - Original Message - From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Real Irony is putting the face of the president who destroyed the US' first central bank, setting the economy back 50 years, on the $20 dollar bill. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Irony

John Graves wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself

Re: Irony

Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Irony John Graves wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Joseph

Re: Irony

- Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Irony John Graves wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark

Re: Irony

- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: Irony 2009/1/2 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups to this. I have a tin ear for these sort

Re: Irony

Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: These threads just make me beam Since the thread is about irony, that would be a steel I-beam. -- Sandy Harris, Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

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John Graves wrote: John Graves wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu AlunFoto wrote: 2009/1/2 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I thought irony was a synonym for ferrous. Glad we could ferrite that out. I've been

Re: Irony

Hamilton probably wouldn't have thought so. -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely b...@blakely.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 4:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Irony That wold be the unconstitutional bank, right. Regards Bob

Re: PESO - Irony?

HAR! frank theriault wrote: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71 Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - Irony?

On 6/21/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAR! Yeah. You'd think they'd at least design their boxes differently - so it weren't so obvious... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Irony?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/06/19 Tue PM 10:16:31 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Irony? In a message dated 6/19/2007 2:46:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71 Comments welcome. cheers

Re: PESO - Irony?

Marnie wondered: There has to be another, better name for it. :-) mike, responded, acidly: There is. Capitalism. LOL! I could have called it that, but I didn't want to start another political thread! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson --

Re: PESO - Irony?

From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/06/20 Wed PM 12:28:24 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Irony? Marnie wondered: There has to be another, better name for it. :-) mike, responded, acidly: There is. Capitalism. LOL! I

PESO - Irony?

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71 Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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In a message dated 6/19/2007 2:46:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71 Comments welcome. cheers, frank === Had to make this larger (+), and look at it closely to get the irony. Hey, that's so much

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On Jun 19, 2007, at 2:41 PM, frank theriault wrote: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71 Yup. :-) Nice catch. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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It's not that Ironic anymore, just sad. frank theriault wrote: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71 Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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William Robb wrote: Tax day has come and gone in Canada. Yesterday midnight was the last moment for penalty free tax fining. I changed my calender this morning, the picture for May is the entrance to the Our Lady of Perpetual Help Business School. William Robb seems to me I've seen that

Irony

Tax day has come and gone in Canada. Yesterday midnight was the last moment for penalty free tax fining. I changed my calender this morning, the picture for May is the entrance to the Our Lady of Perpetual Help Business School. William Robb

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Hi, Command line stuff, Cotty. Sounds like it is probably not to worry about. Most likely set up so Apple's Helpdesk people can get into your machine and fix things remotely. A deliberate back door (see the movie War Games). Thanks Tom, now *that* I can understand. it's a movie tie-in with

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Care to post a link? A. On 19 May 2004, at 08:44, John Francis wrote: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service

OT: Irony is alive and well ...

On 19/5/04, John Francis, discombobulated, offered: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Alle 08:35, mercoledì 19 maggio 2004, Cotty ha scritto: On 19/5/04, John Francis, discombobulated, offered: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Alle 11:10, mercoledì 19 maggio 2004, danilo ha scritto: Alle 08:35, mercoledì 19 maggio 2004, Cotty ha scritto: On 19/5/04, John Francis, discombobulated, offered: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

On May 19, 2004, at 6:44 PM, John Francis wrote: Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) It looks like it runs the script as the user who's using the browser. So it won't wipe your entire hard drive, but if mis-used right it

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) It looks like it runs the script as the user who's using the browser. So it won't wipe your entire hard drive, but if mis-used right it could potentially do some interesting

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

[..] Sorry, obviously was Jhon Francis who wrote that mail, my mistake. Danilo And obviously was JOHN. I've had a little problem with my keyboard. ubt nwo ti semes to eb fxide... FKUC!!! ;) danilo

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Hello Cotty, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 1:06:59 PM, you wrote: snip C No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's C guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it C was* ! rm -rf deletes the given direcotry recursively, whithout asking any

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, 2004 6:06 AM Subject: Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ... No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* !

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

On May 19, 2004, at 10:06 PM, Cotty wrote: (quoting someone else) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

It means remove (rm) recursively (-r) with a forced (-f) override of permissions all files starting with the root (/) directory. If run as root (systems administer) it will erase all the files on the filesystem. Sounds insane, but it allows remote upgrades over the network because it will

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

So rm -rf / wipes your whole hard drive. If you have the permissions to do it. Because the exploit actually opens a terminal, it could theoretically do this, but note that the guy could not get a command with spaces to work. I have ideas for possible easy ways around this, though.

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:06 AM Subject: Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ... No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* !

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Root services are running at all times in Unix, a security hole allows an unautorized user to take over the service, that's what most of the security holes in Windows NT based systems are dealing with these days. There used to be several very large holes in UNIX so I don't doubt that there are

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Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rm -rf / means delete all the files from your file system. it's unclear whether the service runs with root permission or not. if it does, then the delete will succeed. Thanks Herb. I assume these commands are only accessed on deeper levels, levels I do not descend

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Command line stuff, Cotty. Sounds like it is probably not to worry about. Most likely set up so Apple's Helpdesk people can get into your machine and fix things remotely. A deliberate back door (see the movie War Games). -- Cotty wrote: Thanks Tom. It's all gobbledygook to me, but thanks.

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Actually, if / is set user root. Nothing would happen. The command would have to be rewritten slightly to do what you mentioned. I think I will not say specifically how, to save Cotty having problems (GRIN), though almost any book on Unix Systems Administration would have a warning about it. I

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

Subject: Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ... Thanks Herb. I assume these commands are only accessed on deeper levels, levels I do not descend to ;-)

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

my assumption too, but if Apple had thought about it enough, they would have used a special id and group for the service. Herb - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: Re: OT: Irony is alive

Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...

On 19/5/04, JF, discombobulated, offered: Really? What do you think would happen if you did this? 1) Open up a terminal window (while logged in as yourself, not as root) 2) Type the wildcard delete command in that window, and hit Enter. (I'm not spelling out the command here, just in

Re: Irony and a filter question.

it's just that in these 35mm photog handbooks I have they have [ND filters] as part of 'essential kits'. Brad, That's stretching the meaning of the word essential way past the breaking point. I'd bet not one out of 1000 photographers even owns a ND filter. --Mike P.S. Also, the last time a

Re: Irony and a filter question.

Hi Mike, On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:27:16 -0600, Mike Johnston wrote: Today, sales of 135mm primes have slowed to barely a dribble.) Well, I have a Tamron Adaptall 135/2.8, the Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5, and the well known SMC 135/2.5. The first two are going to soon be sold, but I'll be keeping

Re: Irony and a filter question.

So what killed the 135mm prime? 80-200 zooms? 180mm and 200mm primes? Michael Cross Mike Johnston wrote: Today, sales of 135mm primes have slowed to barely a dribble.)

Re: Irony and a filter question.

Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:27:16 -0600, Mike Johnston wrote: Today, sales of 135mm primes have slowed to barely a dribble.) Well, I have a Tamron Adaptall 135/2.8, the Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5, and the well known SMC 135/2.5. The first two are going to soon

Re: Irony and a filter question.

William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ND filters are used to trim light levels so that specific aperture/shutter speed combinations can be used. If you want to shoot at (as an example) f/8 at 1/60th, no matter what the light level, then an ND filter set will be essential. Now *there's* an

Re: Re: Irony and a filter question.

VideoVBG Dave Begin Original Message From: Michael Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 09:31:24 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Irony and a filter question. So what killed the 135mm prime?  80-200 zooms?  180mm and 200mm primes? Michael Cross Mike Johnston

Tele Lens Kit (Was: Irony and a filter question)

Hi Mark, On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:47:26 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Right now my only prime between my 100/2.8 macro and my 300/2.8 is a 200mm, which I find a bit too long for part of a 3-lens kit (with a 28mm and 43mm). Well, I usually have transport nearby, or at least my folding luggage

OT: Irony and a filter question.

Hey gang, Well, with all the Visa numbers and emails flying around, I missed a phone call. If you remember the original email, I had as part of my main order, the CS-105. If I had emailed that correctly, it would have been billed and ordered. Anyhow, a message on my machine, my CS-105 had come

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