Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-30 Thread George Sinos
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, George; you cleared my confusion up. To control two lights you simply switched to Nikon. Neat. :-) Ha! That wasn't exactly what happened but that was the outcome. I had been happily using all of my Pentax gear

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-30 Thread John
http://www.paulcbuff.com/cc.php I don't know if it has an app for your phone, but OTOH, it fits in the hot-shoe and you don't have to keep one hand free for the phone or worry about where you put the phone down while using the camera. On 8/29/2013 5:01 PM, George Sinos wrote: Larry said

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-30 Thread John Sessoms
When I first got my Cybersync from them I discovered that the old OLD White Lightning 1 used a stereo 1/4 inch plug wired tip ring so that the cable with the regular 1/4 inch mono plug wouldn't quite work. I emailed their support asking if they sold a cable to fit, mentioning that I had two

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-30 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 03:53:14PM -0400, John wrote: http://www.paulcbuff.com/cc.php I don't know if it has an app for your phone, but OTOH, it fits in the hot-shoe and you don't have to keep one hand free for the phone or worry about where you put the phone down while using the camera. I

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Quite so, John. Thanks very much for pointing them out. I was not aware that the CC was so full featured, or that their wireless units work with speedlights. Their price matches many of the cheap eBay units and I'd trust them much more. Still not as cheap as the Cowboy Studios gadgets, but when

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Some things just can't be rushed. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: How come it took them sixty years to figure out that rounder aperture blades improves bokeh? -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread George Sinos
I've been working with a two flashes trying to improve my portrait skills for a while. I have to say the ability to adjust the flashes from the camera position, either in TTL or Manual, is much more than a convenience for me. Since the flash units don't have modeling lights I really like the

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree, George, and I used the built-in wireless features for a couple of years, but I found serious shortcomings and eventually gave it up. You seem to be suggesting that you are able to control two flashes in P-TTL from the popup. True? I could _never_ get that to work at all. Either one

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Bob W
It probably hasn't taken them that long to figure that out - it's taken them that long to realise it's a marketing point. B On 29 Aug 2013, at 13:27, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Some things just can't be rushed. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM, J.C. O'Connell

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread P.J. Alling
On 8/27/2013 7:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sorry, I didn't mean for

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread P.J. Alling
Hey, I'd like to see a 24x36mm sensor Pentax too. If they change the lens mount as some have been calling for, it kind of defeats the purpose from my point of view. On 8/28/2013 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 02:27:38PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I believe Larry was

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread George Sinos
Hi Bruce - In general we don't work too differently. Yes, I'm controlling two lights. With Pentax I only had a single control. I tried using the contrast control mode with a second flash. It worked, but never i really got it to work well enough. But still, It was usable if you have a lot of

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread George Sinos
Larry said This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. I have to agree with that. Sounds like a good kickstarter project for someone. gs George Sinos

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Loveday
This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. Agreed. Having on-camera remote group control (as Canons can do, say), is a notch better than having to go to the flash

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, George; you cleared my confusion up. To control two lights you simply switched to Nikon. Neat. :-) Having read the Joe McNally books I'm aware of just how sophisticated that lighting system is. I'm happily remaining low-tech and individually metering manually adjusted lights. Even just

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather- resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news- listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Tanya Love
It totally is Larry! Just the other week, I had 4 540s set up with soft boxes and was losing ambient light fast. The family I was shooting were almost over it and we were just about to start shooting my final series of shots when it started to rain. It was only light rain and pose no problem to

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Tanya, I carry some clear plastic bags to pop over flashes if there's danger of wetting. You could also spray waterproofing on the softbox shell fabric, and/or Scotchguard. If you're using them in the rain I think you'd want to do that anyway. Flashes inside softboxes are pretty safe from light

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Yes, Canon's 600EX-RT is weather sealed; same for the 580EX-II. Alex On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Tanya, I carry some clear plastic bags to pop over flashes if there's danger of wetting. You could also spray waterproofing on the softbox shell

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Ah; thanks! On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Canon's 600EX-RT is weather sealed; same for the 580EX-II. Alex On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Tanya, I carry some clear plastic bags to

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread John
Sit on it and rotate. On 8/27/2013 6:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread John
I'm thinking those are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price and actual prices once you can order them from BH or Adorama will be lower. On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread John Sessoms
I believe Larry was just being an ass, mocking those of us who do want a full-frame DSLR from Pentax. On 8/27/2013 6:47 PM, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Which you can _now_ do on the AF360 since Pentax added head rotation to that model. I missed that the first read through, and it's a great thing because lots of folks won't have to get the much more spendy AF540 as a result. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:18 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Sit

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 02:27:38PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I believe Larry was just being an ass, mocking those of us who do want a full-frame DSLR from Pentax. I wasn't *just* being an ass, I was also being humorous. And I was not mocking people who want a Pentax with a 24x36 sensor, I am

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Which you can _now_ do on the AF360 since Pentax added head rotation to that model. I missed that the first read through, and it's a great thing because lots of folks won't have to get the much more spendy AF540 as a

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Time will tell. When I bought my two AF540's in 2008 I was able to shop around and get them for around $300, Canadian. Then came The Big Price Realignment and they shot up to $700 list or so. The Usual Suspects stores have them for $600 now, and I see you can get 'em for as little as $450 in a

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/8/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Bob W
On 28 Aug 2013, at 20:23, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 27/8/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely Don't call him Shirley. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely Don't call him Shirley. Roger that. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 08:41:52PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 28/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely Don't call him Shirley. Roger that. If you're going to

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Stan Halpin
On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:21 PM, John wrote: I'm thinking those are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price and actual prices once you can order them from BH or Adorama will be lower. Preorder price at BH is the same as the MSRP. That may change over the next few weeks . . . stan On

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Stan Halpin
On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:18:50PM -0400, Stan Halpin wrote: On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Mark C
On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow! This is great fun! I'm happy for the Pentax line. I have the 540 on my wish list, so when the money becomes available, I'll for for this one. Thanks for posting, Dario! Cheers, Christine On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Rob Studdert
I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. On 29 August 2013 10:15, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Wow! This is great fun! I'm happy for the Pentax line. I have the 540 on my wish list, so when the

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:07:23PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread John
On 8/28/2013 4:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:18:50PM -0400, Stan Halpin wrote: On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread J.C. O'Connell
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Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-28 Thread Peter Loveday
I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode. I've been fairly happy with my (slightly

New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features.

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? But the constant light source

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread David Parsons
Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame . What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a full frame flash? Other than the markings... G -- PDML

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
Some people may want to check the batteries in their Humor Detector. : ) On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame .

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread David Parsons
Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Some people may want to check the batteries in their Humor Detector. : ) On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. Sheesh.

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I just had to buy a new 540 for my mopar nats shoot, as both of my old one were at CRIS. Arrrgh. Paul On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand?

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread John Celio
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. I thought the notion of a full frame flash was pretty funny. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:07:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. I thought the notion of a full frame flash was pretty funny. I'm glad that somebody besides me did. Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Tanya Love
This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for the time being. Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49:32AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote: This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for the time being. Yes, it's funny how a flash being weatherproof can be important when you don't expect it to. Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:07:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. I thought the notion of a full frame flash was pretty funny. I'm glad that somebody besides me did. Not

Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses

2013-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's never stopped me either. Godfrey On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: ...Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of my jokes stop me from making it. ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net