Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-06 Thread Peter Jordan
: Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Cotty: LOL. My bad juxtaposition of sentences I'm afraid. That first paragraph should read: Hot air balloon, that's more my cup of tea. For filming big fires, major road accidents etc we use a Squirrel

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Anders Hultman Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Is this some kind of steerable hot air ballon? No such thing. They go where the wind takes them. Some of the manufacturers are putting steering vents on, but their sole function is to allow

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Hot air balloon, that's more my cup of tea. We use a Squirrel for filming big fires, major road accidents etc which means sitting in the cold with the door off. I don't mind that but I avoid anything else where I can. Is this some kind of steerable hot

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-05 Thread Anders Hultman
Cotty: LOL. My bad juxtaposition of sentences I'm afraid. That first paragraph should read: Hot air balloon, that's more my cup of tea. For filming big fires, major road accidents etc we use a Squirrel (helicopter) which means sitting in the cold with the door off. I don't mind that but I avoid

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I worked as a drag racing crew chief in the seventies on a super fuel funny car. I occasionally added 2% hydrazine to our nitromethane/alcohol fuel mixture (90% nitromethane, 8% alcohol, 2% hydrazine). Our Chrysler hemi powered Corvette set a few mph records with that mix. The best was 237 mph in

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-04 Thread Keith Whaley
J.H.C.! 237 mph in 6.35 seconds? That's awesome _today_, according to ME! Most Incredible! Twice as fast as I 'drove' my old Piper Cub! keith Paul Stenquist wrote: I worked as a drag racing crew chief in the seventies on a super fuel funny car. I occasionally added 2% hydrazine to our

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread John Francis
This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. To bring it back onto topic, somewhat: A few years ago a SR-71 was supposed to be making a low, slow pass over Moffett Field as part of their airshow. (It wasn't exactly a

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have also greatly enjoyed this thread Peter Popp wrote: This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go.

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The compound used to relight the engines at altitude in an emergency on the ER-2 (and U2) is hydrazine. A safety briefing is necessary every time you visit Dryden to work, and being aware of the alarm that sounds in the event of a hydrazine leak is one of

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Peter Alling
Hydrazine will kill you in incredibly small amounts. At 09:15 AM 10/3/03 -0600, you wrote: This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread John Francis
different fuel then any other military plane, I'm not sure if it was because of high flight temps or the ambient temps and lack of oxygen at their cruising altitude. Well, it was lots of things. But a major one was to stop the fuel boiling away at the operating temperatures; the fuel was also

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. Anyone know if that's true or an urban

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bob Walkden a écrit: Hi, living here in London (England!) I see it quite often, most recently this weekend. Even though it's quite a commonplace sight, people still stop to look. It's an amazing piece of work and a great pity it's on the way out. I wish they'd sell it to Virgin so it could keep

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. Anyone know if that's true or an urban

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread graywolf
Interesting saying. It goes back a ways. You joined the army, did your 30 years, and they bought you a farm. It was about the only way poor people could get land. So bought the farm came to mean your service was over. How far back dose it go, to the Roman Legion at least. However, I think the

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread graywolf
A hovering Harrier is the loudest thing I've ever heard, at least that went on and on and on and on... (GRIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL Surely the Vulcan will be missed by many of us that have taken part in this thread. I have never *felt* anything remotely as loud as that when it

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Peter Popp
This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on is the NASA ER-2 (essentially a U2 R model with less sophisticated electronics). The

OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread brooksdj
Was walking out of our HO about 2pm yesterday,when i heard a loud plane over head.As we work near Buttonville airport i'm used to the noise,but this one was different,so i looked up and lo and behold,THE CONCORD. It was doing a rather slow

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Apilado
have taken it. Got a long distance shot of the plane. Even standing still it looked like it was moving. Jim A. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:29:11 US/Eastern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Resent-From: [EMAIL

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting I saw the Concord come in to Portland, OR back in 90's. The tower called it speed bird. I did have a camera. They offered a flight towards Hawaii where

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I suspect that you would have been disappointed in the Mach 1 flight. While there was a lot of shaking and buffeting in the early supersonic planes, in modern aircraft it is a nonevent that you can tell only by the mach meter. (I flew in fighter jets that could easily breadk Mach 1, and I flew

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, living here in London (England!) I see it quite often, most recently this weekend. Even though it's quite a commonplace sight, people still stop to look. It's an amazing piece of work and a great pity it's on the way out. I wish they'd sell it to Virgin so it could keep flying. I first saw

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The radio call speed bird would signify it was a British Airways Concorde. Whereas most airlines use the company name and flight number, for example United 1234, British Airways uses speedbird, as in Speedbird 1234. Just a bit of useless information.

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The radio call speed bird would signify it was a British Airways Concorde. Whereas most airlines use the company name and flight

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Apilado
disappears. Jim A. From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Stanley, Powers Matyola Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:11:31 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Popp
It really is an impressive looking plane, isn't it? A few years ago now, when I was in graduate school, the group that I worked in built remote sensors for measuring mobile-source NOx emissions. I had the good fortune of travelling to Heathrow, at the request of BA, to set our instrument up

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JJ tells of some radio chatter between pilots and air traffic control that he heard. An SR-71 Blackbird called to request clearance as it had entered this particular ATC area, and asked if it could have flight level 670. The controller replied with a sarcastic

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
Probably not, unless the SR-71 had a transponder turned on. Bill - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:44 PM Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JJ tells of some

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I like that story, and it's probably true. BTW, the term flight level begins at 18,000 feet. Up until that altitude, altimeters are set to closest local setting, but above 18,000 altimeters are set to standard pressure of 29.92. Thanks Bill. Looks like

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: In my current life I work for NOAA, building and operating instruments on NASA high-altitude research planes. We often work out of military facilities because they can support these specialized aircraft. A few years ago we were at Edwards AFB in

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Herb Chong
: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it.

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread John Francis
I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. Anyone know if that's true or an urban legend? (You mean high flashpoint -

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Simon King
that NASA used at Edwards AFB, California). Really? You? Simon -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas

OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bob S
Probably an urban legend... During the Vietnam, a friend was stationed in South Korea with the US Air Force. He watched the South Koreans who watched the military radar screens for air traffic. He would be informed ahead of time when an SR-71 would do a fly thru. They wouldn't tell the South

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Hi John (You mean high flashpoint Thanks, I did mean that; my fingers thought differently. Interesting stuff about

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Simon King
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting Hi John (You mean high flashpoint Thanks, I did mean

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread John Francis
(This information comes from a retired flight engineer who looked after the SR-71s that NASA used at Edwards AFB, California). Really? You? Nope. Someone I know from another usenet newsgroup. The closest I've been to a Blackbird is watching one fly overhead as I was leaving San Diego to

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Simon King
*really* like to fly in. Simon -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting (This information comes from a retired flight engineer who looked after the SR-71s

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Butch Black
I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. Anyone know if that's true or an urban legend? Simon I believe that it is true. I