Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen
I did a bit of research on how to get it to boot in 64 bit mode and found this link, but haven't tried it yet: http://macperformanceguide.com/SnowLeopard-64bit.html On May 31, 2012, at 7:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Charles, How much RAM do you have? and which version of the OS? LR4 is

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:41, Larry Colen wrote: I did a bit of research on how to get it to boot in 64 bit mode and found this link, but haven't tried it yet: http://macperformanceguide.com/SnowLeopard-64bit.html My Macbook3,1 WILL NOT boot in 64-bit mode no matter what I try. It seems I'm

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
For anyone following the saga, an update from the thread starter: well, so far, so good. I installed 4.1RC2, played with it a bit--seemed okay. The very next day Adobe released 4.1 Final, so I installed *that* and have been working with it since. The huge delays are gone, thank goodness. I'm

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: For anyone following the saga, an update from the thread starter: well, so far, so good. I installed 4.1RC2, played with it a bit--seemed okay. The very next day Adobe released 4.1 Final, so I installed *that* and have been I had downloaded

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for posting this, Bruce. Maybe I will upgrade over the weekend. Cheers, Christine On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: For anyone following the saga, an update from the thread starter: well, so far, so good. I installed 4.1RC2, played with it

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-31 Thread Stan Halpin
I have a late-2006 iMac with 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 gb memory. Before I bought this machine, I had for years used a Powerbook as my only computer, but I needed to upgrade in order to handle LR and the like. I understand that newer better (?) program versions are going to use more code,

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Charles, How much RAM do you have? and which version of the OS? LR4 is a 64bit implementation. It runs best on Lion, and runs best on Snow Leopard when you have Snow Leopard set to boot up with the 64-bit kernel (it's set to the 32bit kernel by default). 4G is enough RAM as long as most other

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Been testing it since it released. Seems much improved performance, certainly over the original LR4 release, but also over the LR4.1RC2 version. The interface seems to smoothly and without the momentary hesitations that I was seeing with RC2. I'll be beating up the book module this evening. G

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 30, 2012, at 10:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Been testing it since it released. Seems much improved performance, certainly over the original LR4 release, but also over the LR4.1RC2 version. The interface seems to smoothly and without the momentary hesitations that I was seeing with

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That sounds like the .LRCAT file needs to be cleaned up or the .LRPDATA repository needs to be regenerated. My working catalog now manages 96,000 image files, mostly raw data, with good performance. Godfrey On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 30,

RE: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bob W
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 29 May 2012 02:11 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow I don't understand why nobody has posted here about Lightroom 4 being so dog-slow. I upgraded on the weekend, went through the process

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Derby Chang
Geez, that's bad. I upgraded to LR4 about same time as going to Win7 64bit, so there wasn't much of a speed hump. More memory definitely helps, but a fast disk for the lightroom catalog zips things along too. I know you are a heavy user of PS. What are the incompatibilities? I'm still on

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I wish it were so simple, Tim. Yes, I'm using an older machine: a 2008 iMac, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo. But it has 6 Gig RAM, and I was running Lr with no other apps up (not even a browser), and I was watching the Activity monitor. There was plenty of RAM, the disks weren't all that busy, my catalog is

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Mat Maessen
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm using an older machine: a 2008 iMac, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo. But it has 6 Gig RAM, and I was running Lr with no other apps up (not even a browser), and I was watching the Activity monitor. There was plenty of RAM,

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
When I select an image and choose Edit in Ps CS5 it pops up a warning that I need to upgrade Camera RAW to 7.0. Choices are Edit Anyway, Let Lr Render or cancel. Googling this topic suggests that colour shifts were occurring when using this, so I'm very wary. Right now I'm testing out one of my

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Mat, I'm still running 10.6.8. I enabled 64-bits for Ps CS5 and Lr 3 and got a noticeable speed improvement back in the day. But you might be right; Lion may help. I know I need it for a couple of other things. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue,

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
You and me both, Derby! :-) And It's going to be location stuff for a while anyway until I can get settled into a studio space. I'm working on that. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hope you can get back to some real studio work soon. -- -bmw -- PDML

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks like I'll have to add some memory to my iMac before upgrading. I have 4 gigs of ram--probably upgrade to 8 just to be on the safe side. Thanks for mentioning this, Bruce. Cheers, Christine On May 28, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Tim Bray wrote: I upgraded to a slightly-faster computer with

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Hmmm, I have Lion version 10.7.4, 2.5 GHz Core i5. Wonder if I'd be ok without a memory upgrade given your comments about RAM. Cheers, Christine On May 29, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Mat, I'm still running 10.6.8. I enabled 64-bits for Ps CS5 and Lr 3 and got a noticeable

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread David J Brooks
Bruce, no problems here. iMac 21.5 Dave On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why nobody has posted here about Lightroom 4 being so dog-slow. Fairly pissed at Adobe right now. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are you running Lightroom 4.0 or Lightroom 4.1RC2? Adobe has issued two candidate upgrades to Lr4 so far, to address performance issues and bug reports. Lr4.1 is due for final release pretty soon, I suspect.

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm running 4.0, Godfrey, the current shipping product. Thanks for pointing out that 4.1RC2 -- I'm going to try it ASAP. This morning I was editing an image that I had retouched in CS5, I made a virtual copy and turned that BW. It was all working flawlessly. I thought maybe I'd done something,

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Try it, Christine, but I couldn't live without 6GB now, and I'd rather have 8GB if my (older) iMac would accept it. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hmmm, I have Lion version 10.7.4,   2.5 GHz Core i5.  Wonder if I'd be ok without a memory upgrade

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've done all my photo work in 4.1RC2 for several weeks now. It's much more responsive than 4.0. Still not quite at LR3 level on some things, but there's a lot of debug code in it still. (It's long since my software development engineering days, nowadays I just document development tools. I have

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Larry Colen
On May 29, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I wish it were so simple, Tim. Yes, I'm using an older machine: a 2008 iMac, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo. But it has 6 Gig RAM, and I was running Lr with no other apps up (not even That sounds very much like my machine. a browser), and I was

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread Larry Colen
On May 29, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On May 29, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I wish it were so simple, Tim. Yes, I'm using an older machine: a 2008 iMac, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo. But it has 6 Gig RAM, and I was running Lr with no other apps up (not even That sounds

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-29 Thread steve harley
on 2012-05-29 9:38 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Lr4.1 is due for final release pretty soon, I suspect. good guess — LR 4.1RC informed me just now that 4.1 final is available; the release notes are very coy about any possible speed improvements, the only relevant line being Corrections for issues

OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-28 Thread Bruce Walker
I don't understand why nobody has posted here about Lightroom 4 being so dog-slow. I upgraded on the weekend, went through the process of familiarizing myself with the new Develop sliders and became comfortable that its functionally a Good Thing. But: good gawd almighty is it slow! Every time I

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Bray
I upgraded to a slightly-faster computer with 8G of RAM and it was like night and day. We’ll never go back to the halcyon days of Lightroom 1 (now *that* was fast), but it’s perfectly acceptable; you just need more memory. -T On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-05-28 Thread Jeffery Smith
I just upgraded to a new iMac with 8gb of memory, and it is painful to use the previous iMac at work (even with an upgraded 3gb of memory). But don't ever minimize the capacity of software companies to make your brand new hardware insufficient. Can you imagine if PhotoShop or Lightroom had to