Re: PESO: WH 17

[Chris Mitchell]

On 24 May 2017 at 17:54, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Thanks, Chris.
>
> The canopy might have been spotless and optically perfect when it left the
> factory, but after a few months in actual use -- especially under combat
> conditions -- it got pretty dirty and scratched.  The plane captain would
> wipe it down before each flight, but usually just ground the sand and dirt
> into the surface.
>
> It was always clear enough to complete the mission, however, but it could
> cause imperfections in any photo taken through the canopy.
>

Blooming typical. We put all that effort into making them perfect and
you go and use them in combat conditions and spoil them :-)

Chris

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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Chris Mitchell]

On 25 May 2017 at 04:29, John Coyle  wrote:
> Hey Chris - Were you ever at the Kingston plant? I was an engineering 
> apprentice at Hawker's in
> Kingston (1956-7), plated cockpit parts for the Hunter, did paint tests for 
> the wing and tailplane
> panels, and ended up metallurgical testing of steel components in the test 
> lab - learned so much
> there!
>
>
> John in Brisbane

Well well! No, I visited Kingston only once. I was based at the ex
Folland plant in Hamble near Southampton. This was in the Hawker
Siddeley days just prior to nationalisation and the establishment of
British Aerospace, so 1969 to around 1978. I think the Hunter work, by
then, was for a refurbishment programme, maybe for the Swiss airforce.
Hamble didn't have an airfield so only made bits and pieces. Some of
them were significant including most of the Harrier fuselage and
Trident wings and tailplanes. There was also a sectioned off bit
making chunks of Blue Streak missiles, but I'm probably not supposed
to talk about that even now!

Cheers, Chris

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RE: PESO: WH 17

[John Coyle]

Hey Chris - Were you ever at the Kingston plant? I was an engineering 
apprentice at Hawker's in
Kingston (1956-7), plated cockpit parts for the Hunter, did paint tests for the 
wing and tailplane
panels, and ended up metallurgical testing of steel components in the test lab 
- learned so much
there!


John in Brisbane


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Subject: Re: PESO: WH 17

Very good Dan - and through a canopy too?

They used to make canopies for Hawker Hunters, Harriers and Hawks  in the 
aircraft factory where I
did my apprenticeship. Very specialised and I remember seeing a bloody great 
sheet of hot Perspex
being draped over a greasy wooden mould. It was then subject to a lot of 
polishing to make it
optically perfect and to remove any distortion - after all, the pilot ideally 
would want to see the
target / runway in the right place.. It took many hours.

Chris

On 15 May 2017 at 04:10, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> An image from back in the day:
>
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
> Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4 Comments are 
> invited and apprecated.
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Chris.

The canopy might have been spotless and optically perfect when it left the
factory, but after a few months in actual use -- especially under combat
conditions -- it got pretty dirty and scratched.  The plane captain would
wipe it down before each flight, but usually just ground the sand and dirt
into the surface.

It was always clear enough to complete the mission, however, but it could
cause imperfections in any photo taken through the canopy.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Chris Mitchell 
wrote:

> Very good Dan - and through a canopy too?
>
> They used to make canopies for Hawker Hunters, Harriers and Hawks  in
> the aircraft factory where I did my apprenticeship. Very specialised
> and I remember seeing a bloody great sheet of hot Perspex being draped
> over a greasy wooden mould. It was then subject to a lot of polishing
> to make it optically perfect and to remove any distortion - after all,
> the pilot ideally would want to see the target / runway in the right
> place.. It took many hours.
>
> Chris
>
> On 15 May 2017 at 04:10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> > An image from back in the day:
> >
> > https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
> > Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
> > Comments are invited and apprecated.
> >
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Chris Mitchell]

Very good Dan - and through a canopy too?

They used to make canopies for Hawker Hunters, Harriers and Hawks  in
the aircraft factory where I did my apprenticeship. Very specialised
and I remember seeing a bloody great sheet of hot Perspex being draped
over a greasy wooden mould. It was then subject to a lot of polishing
to make it optically perfect and to remove any distortion - after all,
the pilot ideally would want to see the target / runway in the right
place.. It took many hours.

Chris

On 15 May 2017 at 04:10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> An image from back in the day:
>
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
> Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
> Comments are invited and apprecated.
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Bob.  I was in the wingman spot, as he is ahead of us and to the
left.  It is much harder to get a good shot from the lead plane, as it had
to be "over-the-shoulder," and there are obstructions in the canopy in that
direction.


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivan 
wrote:

> Dan,
> Excellent picture.  Are you his wing-man or is he yours?
> Thanks for serving.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
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> > Thanks, Paul, Larry, Alan and Jack!!
> >
> > This would have been one of the first images taken with the Spotty I
> > purchased in 1966, my first Pentax.
> >
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> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Paul Stenquist  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Fabulous! A bit of history.
> > >
> > > Paul via phone
> > >
> > > > On May 14, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <
> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > An image from back in the day:
> > > >
> > > > https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
> pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
> > > > Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Bob Sullivan]

Dan,
Excellent picture.  Are you his wing-man or is he yours?
Thanks for serving.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
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> Thanks, Paul, Larry, Alan and Jack!!
>
> This would have been one of the first images taken with the Spotty I
> purchased in 1966, my first Pentax.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
>
> > Fabulous! A bit of history.
> >
> > Paul via phone
> >
> > > On May 14, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > An image from back in the day:
> > >
> > > https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
> > > Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
> > > Comments are invited and apprecated.
> > >
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Paul, Larry, Alan and Jack!!

This would have been one of the first images taken with the Spotty I
purchased in 1966, my first Pentax.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> Fabulous! A bit of history.
>
> Paul via phone
>
> > On May 14, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > An image from back in the day:
> >
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> > Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Jack Davis]

Beautifully clear image (on my cell)
Dan. 
J

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> On May 14, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
> 
> Great shot. Just hanging in the sky.
> 
> Alan C
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> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Alan C]

Great shot. Just hanging in the sky.

Alan C

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An image from back in the day:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

An image from back in the day:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/5/14/wh-17
Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
Comments are invited and apprecated.


Excellent.



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Re: PESO: WH 17

[Paul Stenquist]

Fabulous! A bit of history.

Paul via phone

> On May 14, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
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PESO: WH 17

[Daniel J. Matyola]

An image from back in the day:

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Asahi Pentax Spotmatic, smc Super-Takumar 50 mm F 1.4
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