Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:19 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Some truth in the essay. But just because an image is posted liked doesn't mean it is well done or even good. It means in some cases it struck a cord with the viewer on some level. And I doubt most i phone

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins There is a fantasy author I like who got dropped by his publisher. He self-publishes on Amazon, but also uses Kickstarter to raise money. When he raises enough (usually about $5000) he will write the novel. Contributors get an electronic or hard copy depending on the

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
His name is Tim Pratt and he writes contemporary fantasy. His best know stuff is the Marla Mason series. He has a website where he has serialized some of the MM novels so you can give them a try. It's something like Marlamason.com On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, John Sessoms

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker A sobering essay to ponder: As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two possible effects on “serious” photography.

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
Some truth in the essay. But just because an image is posted liked doesn't mean it is well done or even good. It means in some cases it struck a cord with the viewer on some level. And I doubt most i phone photos are crafted. Some of the work on instagram is truly good - not so others. YMMV

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread steve harley
on 2012-09-08 8:07 Bruce Walker wrote There's still no credible business model for this thing. does there need to be a business model? can good writing, or photography, happen without a business model? going a little deeper, is it possible that all it means when good this or good that

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley on 2012-09-08 8:07 Bruce Walker wrote There's still no credible business model for this thing. does there need to be a business model? can good writing, or photography, happen without a business

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
Seems today that most photographs are destined for facebook, and that's where they belong. From: kwaller Some truth in the essay. But just because an image is posted liked doesn't mean it is well done or even good. It means in some cases it struck a cord with the viewer on some level. And I

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
and efforts to sell it. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail From: Bob W

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms From: Bob W With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to the right people. People are not going to

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 'Comes to the fore' in the way I meant it is not about commercial success but about recognition. Some of the works that are now recognised as among the best in their field were never commercial successes. What they benefitted

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
There is a fantasy author I like who got dropped by his publisher. He self-publishes on Amazon, but also uses Kickstarter to raise money. When he raises enough (usually about $5000) he will write the novel. Contributors get an electronic or hard copy depending on the size of the donation. This

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker A sobering essay to ponder: As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two possible effects on “serious” photography. 1. The flowering of photographers leads to millions of people

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I agree, Bob. In addition, photography is the only artistic activity many people can do. Even if they are not very good, it's still worth something to do what they can. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net]