If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
what
my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture mention this now?
Just drop it.
I snow what you mean.
Water ya taking about?
Ice what Cotty means.
All hail the great Cotty
I will now go get piste
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On 10/13/12 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
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- Original Message - From: Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info
Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 13/10
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/13/12 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
what
my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture
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On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/13/12 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for
Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
Dougbrewer.wordpress.com
On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/13/12 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
what my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture mention this now?
Just drop it.
I snow what you mean.
Water ya taking about?
Ice what Cotty means.
All hail the great Cotty
long may he rain
I haven't
On Oct 16, 2012, at 09:20 , Mark Roberts wrote:
Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
Dougbrewer.wordpress.com
On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
wrote:
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/13/12 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26
Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
what my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture mention this now?
Just drop it.
I snow what you mean.
Water ya taking about?
Ice what Cotty means.
All hail the great Cotty
long may
On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
what my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture mention this now?
Just drop it.
I snow what you mean.
Water ya taking about?
Ice what Cotty means.
All
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
what my emails would look like. Some still dew
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
Doug Brewer wrote:
On 10/13/12 3:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce
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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:39 PM
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Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
On Oct 16, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines,
that's
what my emails would look like
This may be totally off the subject, bur I found that the Lumix FZ5 is a
brilliat student camera bacause of it's options for totally manual control. 5
MP is enouhg for learning.
For a film camera I think the Pentax K2 is brilliant.
REGARDS
Jens
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Sent: October 13, 2012 10/13/12
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This may be totally off the subject, bur I found that the Lumix FZ5 is a
brilliat student camera
Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
I know that English is not your first language, and besides, I'm only
teasing, but I must wonder if you've recently attended classes at the Dave
Brooks School of English Erudition, Grammar and Speeling [sic].
;-)
chairs,
flank
What can be asserted without
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Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
This may be totally off the subject, bur I found that the Lumix FZ5 is a
brilliat student camera bacause of it's options for totally manual control. 5
MP is enouhg for learning
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On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's what
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Moisture mention this now?
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Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's what
my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture mention this now?
Just drop it.
I snow what you mean.
Water ya taking about?
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On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't for autocorrect and red squiggle underlines, that's what
my emails would look like. Some still dew.
Moisture mention this now?
Just drop it.
I snow what you mean.
Water ya
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 13/10/2012 18:57, Steve Cottrell wrote:
If it weren't
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Right. I understand all that. Lots of different ways to make it work.
The sticking point has been finding a usable socket with the correct
thread to accept the old style cable release without having to murder an
old
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Right. I understand all that. Lots of different ways to make it work.
The sticking point has been finding a usable socket with the correct
thread to accept the old style cable release without
On 9/29/12 4:58, David Parsons wrote:
If you want a basic film camera, why don't you just use a basic film camera.
Pentax is NEVER going to release a camera that has fewer features than
previous models. It doesn't make any kind of economic sense to spend
time and money to develop and release
From: Bipin Gupta
Hello John, your idea is perfectly feasible - having the film era
screw on cable release pushing a simple dual contact electrical switch
wired to a Japanese 2.5 mm stereo pin which the Pentax uses for the
very expensive DSLR cable release.
If you google you will come up with
On 28/9/12, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed:
Even the useful screw on cable release has gone.
Bipin.
Easy to reinstate! My X10 has one!
And why not reinstate the aperture ring!
It just takes a will. Leica do it so it must be good ;-)
camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away
On 28/9/12, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed:
Modern cameras are computers with microswitches. The mirror and
shutter assemblies are just about the only thing remaining that are
mechanical. Using a threaded shutter release because old timers have
a dozen each? What sense does it make
From: Bipin Gupta
Well said Cotty, you just sold a great idea for FREE to Ricoh -
Pentax, a simple student's stripped down manual focus camera with no
bells and whistles. The basics can never change from our old box
cameras to today's flashy DSLRs - a light tight box, time - aperture -
ISO -
I really like that silver based paper and archival properties of BW
materials.
Every time i look at fading 6-year old Fuji Color print, i know that i
will print more BW.
Of course, there is that magic also :)
Gasha
On 09/27/2012 09:57 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
The students I know
From: Steven Desjardins
The students I know that have taken this classes really enjoyed using
film and the darkroom work. With so much electronic these days, they
rarely get to produce something like that by hand. There's still
something magic about the print appearing in the developer tray.
I just finished listening to the latest episode of the This Week In
Photo podcast. There was an interview with Ralph Clevenger about the
curriculum at Brooks.
Summarizing, he said that they are fully digital due to the demands
industry. He did reference something to do with film in the upper
...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Gasha
Sent: Friday, 28 September 2012 8:02 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: student cameras still film?
I really like that silver based paper and archival properties of BW materials.
Every time i look at fading 6-year old Fuji Color print, i know that i will
print more BW
Well said Cotty, you just sold a great idea for FREE to Ricoh -
Pentax, a simple student's stripped down manual focus camera with no
bells and whistles. The basics can never change from our old box
cameras to today's flashy DSLRs - a light tight box, time - aperture -
ISO - focus.
But Pentax has
If you want a basic film camera, why don't you just use a basic film camera.
Pentax is NEVER going to release a camera that has fewer features than
previous models. It doesn't make any kind of economic sense to spend
time and money to develop and release this kind of camera. The simple
fact is
On 27/09/2012 01:48, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
I still see film cameras like the K1000 and MX listed for
sale as student cameras. Question is are they still using
film cameras rather than digital in photography classes in
high schools and colleges? Seems like a basic DSLR would be
more appropriate
Something becoming more and more obvious to me is the effective 'dumbing
down' of photography.
In days gone by, there were basically three tiers of equipment. SLR
cameras, bigger SLR cameras, and everything else.
As a student, using an SLR camera was essential - you were taught about
the nature
On Sep 26, 2012, at 22:34 , David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
What gets me about those listings is that they usually over $100 in
the Boston area. A 35 year old camera that regularly goes for $125.
I stopped looking for Pentax on CL because it's so ridiculous.
I agree there are
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
I still see film cameras like the K1000 and MX listed for
sale as student cameras. Question is are they still using
film cameras rather than digital in photography classes in
high schools and colleges? Seems like a
I think it depends on how the school views their mission.
If they are preparing people for jobs, they will be heavily weighted
towards digital. Not much use for film based skills in the job
market.
If they are more on the side of the arts or personal improvement they
will probably still offer
You know, Cotty, I've heard a similar argument from our photography
professor, which is why the film course still works. The digital
photography course is more aimed at basic exposure, composition, and
Photoshop. Of course, none of these courses have more than 16
students and a lot of
From: J.C. O'Connell
I still see film cameras like the K1000 and MX listed for
sale as student cameras. Question is are they still using
film cameras rather than digital in photography classes in
high schools and colleges? Seems like a basic DSLR would be
more appropriate in today's day and
From: J.C. O'Connell
I still see film cameras like the K1000 and MX listed for
sale as student cameras. Question is are they still using
film cameras rather than digital in photography classes in
high schools and colleges? Seems like a basic DSLR would be
more appropriate in today's day and
On 27/09/2012 10:27, Steve Cottrell wrote:
Something becoming more and more obvious to me is the effective 'dumbing
down' of photography.
In days gone by, there were basically three tiers of equipment. SLR
cameras, bigger SLR cameras, and everything else.
I'm not sure I would lump everything
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:15 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
A lot of photography classes still include BW darkroom. In theory, some
basics (shutter speed, aperture, exposure, sunny16 ...) are learned
better when the student has to understand them without just looking at
the
The students I know that have taken this classes really enjoyed using
film and the darkroom work. With so much electronic these days, they
rarely get to produce something like that by hand. There's still
something magic about the print appearing in the developer tray.
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at
I still see film cameras like the K1000 and MX listed for
sale as student cameras. Question is are they still using
film cameras rather than digital in photography classes in
high schools and colleges? Seems like a basic DSLR would be
more appropriate in today's day and age.
-
I'm studying part-time at a college equivalent level and they have been all
digital here for around five years. I think the darkrooms became extra studio
space.
According to the lecturers the biggest downside is the loss of the contact
sheet. With students shooting hundreds of frames a week
While my niece was taking photography in high-school (2 years) they
gave them 35mm film cameras (I don't know what make). The curriculum
was big on old-school methods and basics. They even did stuff like
photograms.
As far as I know they did not graduate to digital cameras. The niece
has one
There are two programs in the school I teach in
(http://www.dls-csb.edu.ph); one is a multi-media arts program (MMA) a
sort of generic track and a photography specific (AB Photo) program.
The MMA has long gone digital but has a black and white photo elective
(which I teach). The AB Photo has a
We have two sections of film photography each at WL. They use the
two 8 person darkrooms. They always fill up. They use a lot of Pentax
film camera, two of which I donated.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two programs in the school I teach
What gets me about those listings is that they usually over $100 in
the Boston area. A 35 year old camera that regularly goes for $125.
I stopped looking for Pentax on CL because it's so ridiculous.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
I still see film
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