Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> In simple terms the answer to Boris' question is yes: Panasonic is
> manufacturing the lenses used in both Panasonic and Leica digital
> cameras. Is this a great surprise? Leica has had their lenses
> manufactured by Minolta, Tamron and others in the past. The
> ma
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> Leica P&S cameras. Aren't they just re-badged Panasonics?
>
> Jim A.
>
>> Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica P&S that is
>> 10 megp
>
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/09/26 Wed AM 01:14:31 GMT
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> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Re:
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Jim A.
> Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica P&S that is
> 10 megpxl? I
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Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
> Not sure what you're saying, Bill. Panasonic (Matsushita) and Fuji
> are two separate companies.
>
> Fuji definitely has a lot of optical expertise.
I think Adam summed it
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Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
>>
>>
>
> Bill,
> I'm pretty sure Godders was talking about Panasonic, not Fuji.
>
I knew that. I was just testing.
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On Sep 25, 2007, at 2:02 PM, William Robb wrote:
>> Panasonic makes the electronics but Leica makes the glass for all
>> Panny or Leica cameras as far as I know. Nate has had 2 Panny
>> digicams
>> and I have the Leica D-Lux 3 and they've all been labeled as having
>> Leica glass.
>>
>
> That's
On Sep 25, 2007, at 2:58 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
>
>
>>>
>>> True. Also true that most Panny video cameras either have a Canon or
>>> Fujinon le
Here ya go.
http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/miscarticles/milkmen.html
Cotty wrote:
> On 25/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
>> My JVC video camera has a Fujinon lens.
>>
>
> The vast majority of interchangeable video lenses are Canon. Fuji make
> cost-effective alt
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
>
>
>>> True. Also true that most Panny video cameras either have a Canon or
>>> Fujinon lens attached.
>> They know how to deal with
On 25/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>My JVC video camera has a Fujinon lens.
The vast majority of interchangeable video lenses are Canon. Fuji make
cost-effective alternatives. There are other makes found once in a blue
moon but you'll come across milk-baring teets on a bloke s
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>
> True. Also true that most Panny video cameras either have a Canon of
> Fujinon lens attached.
My JVC video camera has a Fujinon lens.
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From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
>>
>> True. Also true that most Panny video cameras either have a Canon or
>> Fujinon lens attached.
>
> They know how to deal with lenses, mounts, manufacturing, etc
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From: "Amita Guha" Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
> Panasonic makes the electronics but Leica makes the glass for all
> Panny or Leica cameras as far as I know. Nate has had 2 Panny digicams
> and I have the Leica D-Lux 3 and they've al
On Sep 25, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Cotty wrote:
>> remember that Panasonic has been
>> delivering a line of high quality video equipment, professional
>> cameras and recording/editing devices, for many years
>
> True. Also true that most Panny video cameras either have a Canon or
> Fujinon lens attache
On 25/09/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>remember that Panasonic has been
>delivering a line of high quality video equipment, professional
>cameras and recording/editing devices, for many years
True. Also true that most Panny video cameras either have a Canon of
Fujinon len
On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>> ...In simple terms the answer to Boris' question is yes: Panasonic is
>> manufacturing the lenses used in both Panasonic and Leica digital
>> cameras. Is this a great surprise? Leica has had their lenses
>> manufactured by Minolta, Tamron and
Hi!
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> In simple terms the answer to Boris' question is yes: Panasonic is
> manufacturing the lenses used in both Panasonic and Leica digital
> cameras. Is this a great surprise? Leica has had their lenses
> manufactured by Minolta, Tamron and others in the past. The
On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Amita Guha wrote:
>> Godfrey, you say that Panasonic does manufacturing. Does it include
>> the lenses too? If so, basically it means that when a lens on
>> Panasonic camera says Leica it is essentially Panasonic made. Or may
>> be I misunderstand you?!
>
> Panasonic
That's a fairly nice collection of photographs. (So some were just
record shots, but some showed a lot of imagination).
Amita Guha wrote:
> On 9/19/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> It's a Panasonic LX2 if it's the pocket one, not sure which Panasonic the
>> EVF one is rebadged
On 9/25/07, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Godfrey, you say that Panasonic does manufacturing. Does it include
> the lenses too? If so, basically it means that when a lens on
> Panasonic camera says Leica it is essentially Panasonic made. Or may
> be I misunderstand you?!
Panasonic m
On 9/19/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a Panasonic LX2 if it's the pocket one, not sure which Panasonic the EVF
> one is rebadged from. Supposedly quite a nice camera. Cheaper without the Red
> Dot too.
I have the Leica D-Lux 3 (which is also the Panny LX2 - I thought it
looked
Hi!
On 9/25/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Panasonic and Leica digital camera models are siblings (not the M8 or
> R9/DMR of course). Panasonic does the manufacturing, Leica provides
> the lens design, engineering collaboration on the lens manufacturing
> process and performance
Panasonic and Leica digital camera models are siblings (not the M8 or
R9/DMR of course). Panasonic does the manufacturing, Leica provides
the lens design, engineering collaboration on the lens manufacturing
process and performance specs, quality assurance testing on the
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Jim A.
> Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica P&S that is
> 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about
> 500.
On Sep 20, 2007, at 2:20 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> Treating film as sackcloth and ashes is the surest way I can think
> of killing it off completely.
It isn't dead already?];-)
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> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/09/19 Wed PM 05:59:28 GMT
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'"
> Subject: RE: The Cult of Leica
>
> >
> > On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Bob W wrote:
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/
Nice article, thanks for posting the link.
I enjoyed my Leica lenses and cameras immensely ... All told I had
the IIc, IIf, IIIf, M3, M4-P (x2), and M6TTL over the period from
1969 t
From: pnstenquist
> BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was
> staged. True? Apparently the writer of the article doesn't think so.
> Paul
The Eisenstaedt quote would indicate it was not.
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Gullibles travels. That photo appeared in Life Magazine in 1945. Back then
there
were two people in the US who did not at least browse through Life Magazine,
they were both in a coma (hypebole for emphasis). And it took 50+ years to find
the people in the photo.
HCB himself told the story both
Just laziness, that's all.
frank theriault wrote:
> On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise
>> anyway. Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's
>> all Bob's fault:-).
>
> I have t
IIRC, he originally said that he has seen that happen but didn't get the photo,
so did a recreation of it. Decades later he claimed it was not staged. So you
decide.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was staged.
> True? Apparently the wri
On 20/09/2007, John Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know about that..I have an M4...the last of the bench built
> Leicas. It also is a fantastic machine as well as a great camera. The
> sound of a Leica going off is delicious just by itself. I think that
> bringing any Leica to yo
Leica P&S cameras. Aren't they just re-badged Panasonics?
Jim A.
> Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica P&S that is
> 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about
> 500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy.
>
> Walt
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Mark Roberts wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
>> Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ?
>
> I thought it was some sort of military vehicle...
>
>
The M8 was a cancelled project that ended up having the prototypes see service
in Afghanistan (As the vehicle that was supposed to fill th
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>Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ?
I thought it was some sort of military vehicle...
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Walter Hamler wrote:
> Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica P&S that is
> 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about
> 500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy.
>
> Walt
>
>
It's a Panasonic LX2 if it's the pocket one, not sure which Panas
Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica P&S that is
10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about
500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy.
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On 9/19/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you
> look at pictures of Vietnam photographers you'll notice that a lot -
> perhaps most - of them have Nikons AND Leicas round their necks.
>
>
That was certainly true of Nick Ut. The famous and tragic photo of
Kim Phuc was taken with a Leica, bu
>
> On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs
> shutter exercise anyway. Now if I can just find that Tri-X in
> the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's fault:-).
>
> I have to say, Paul, while I hope to be shooting TriX in
>
> An interesting read. Bit of a love-in for the Leica
> (Especially the comment about the Leica + 50mm being the
> camera that took more famous pictures than anything else,
> IIRC someone ran the numbers on the Pulitzer and the Nikon F
> came out on top by a fair margin, just because of the
It's not a Panasonic, which the unLeica's all are.
-Adam
P. J. Alling wrote:
> Avast there who be castin' aspersions there. Course it be a leica, it be
> scribed right on her.
>
> Cotty wrote:
>> Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ?
>>
>>
>>
>
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Scott Loveless wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I played with one in my friend's studio. It's definitely a Leica.
> (And the price is a dead giveaway:-). However, I don't think it will
> hold its value in the way most Leica's do. Like all digital cameras, it
> will be a victim of immature
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 05:15:34AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/
An interesting read, even though I don't feel tempted by a Leica.
I was also intigued to note that it's currently the most read (or
viewed?) article in the online edition
Cotty wrote:
> Harrr me hearties, the question is - is the M8 a Leica ?
>
>
The M8 be as much a Leica as me arse be as cute as Cindy Crawford`s.
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I played with one in my friend's studio. It's definitely a Leica. (And the
price is a dead giveaway:-). However, I don't think it will hold its value in
the way most Leica's do. Like all digital cameras, it will be a victim of
immature technology.
Paul
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> I played with one in my friend's studio. It's definitely a Leica.
(And the price is a dead giveaway:-). However, I don't think it will
hold its value in the way most Leica's do. Like all digital cameras, it
will be a victim of immature technology.
> Paul
The guys on
Avast there who be castin' aspersions there. Course it be a leica, it be
scribed right on her.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was
staged. True? Apparently the writer of the article doesn't think so.
Nope. That was a genuine grab shot. They just recently succeeded in
tracking down both the sailor and the nurse in that photo, by the
I don't know about that..I have an M4...the last of the bench built
Leicas. It also is a fantastic machine as well as a great camera. The
sound of a Leica going off is delicious just by itself. I think that
bringing any Leica to your eye changes your viewpoint because the
emphasis is see
Or a function of how collectors distort a market.
-Adam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> True, the LTMs aren't as capable as an M3, but they're prettier. And the IIIg
> is more expensive, which is partly due to its having been produced small
> numbers but it's also a function of its desirability.
>
On 9/19/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't be shocked to hear that's true, a lot of Eisenstaedt's work was
> posed, especially the early work. But that's one of the few shots by him that
> doesn't seem lifeless to me, so it may well be a candid.
I'm sure it ~wasn't~ staged.
I
True, the LTMs aren't as capable as an M3, but they're prettier. And the IIIg
is more expensive, which is partly due to its having been produced small
numbers but it's also a function of its desirability.
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It doesn't entirely. But the Uver-Leica is and always will be the M3. The LTM
cameras are more baroque in design and interfere in your shooting more (stupid
shutter dials).
-Adam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It also ignores the thread mount cameras, which is odd given its fascination
> with bea
I wouldn't be shocked to hear that's true, a lot of Eisenstaedt's work was
posed, especially the early work. But that's one of the few shots by him that
doesn't seem lifeless to me, so it may well be a candid.
-Adam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Sq
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cesar wrote:
>>> I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used)
>> Mark!
>>
> Why?
> Am I missing something?
>
Never mind. Must have been a MOTO moment.
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It also ignores the thread mount cameras, which is odd given its fascination
with beautiful machinery. For sheer mechanical artistry, I don't think anything
can compare with a IIIG or even a IIIf.
Paul
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> B
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway.
> Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's
> fault:-).
I have to say, Paul, while I hope to be shooting TriX in my Leica fo
BTW, I remember reading that Eisenstaedt's Times Square smooch was staged.
True? Apparently the writer of the article doesn't think so.
Paul
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> Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anywa
Bob W wrote:
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/
>
>
> Bob
>
>
An interesting read. Bit of a love-in for the Leica (Especially the comment
about the Leica + 50mm being the camera that took more famous pictures than
anything else, IIRC someone ran the number
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> Cesar wrote:
> > I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used)
>
> Mark!
>
Why?
Am I missing something?
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Yeah, I feel a Leica moment coming on. My IIIf needs shutter exercise anyway.
Now if I can just find that Tri-X in the back of the freezer. It's all Bob's
fault:-).
Paul
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> On 9/19/07, Bob W <[EMAIL
Cesar wrote:
> I own a IIIf and an M3 (both purchased used)
Mark!
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On 9/19/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/
>
It's not a "real" Leica (being that the body, while designed in
Wetzlar, was made by Minolta in Japan), but I really must pull out my
CL and take it for a walk.
Thanks for a terr
> when compactness wins out over negative size.
>
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida
> in Baltimore, Maryland
>
> -Original Message-----
>
>> From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sep 19, 2007 12:15 AM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>
ng my next extended trip out when
compactness wins out over negative size.
Cesar
Panama City, Florida
in Baltimore, Maryland
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A strangely compelling article. I never warmed to the Leica but this
almost makes me want to get the shutter unjammed in my IIIc
Bob W wrote:
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/24/070924fa_fact_lane/
>
>
> Bob
>
>
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What a pleasant reading. But Bob, I know you have one. I don't... Worse
yet, I want one now ;-).
Cheers!
Boris
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> Bob
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