Re: The State of The List

2010-06-19 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net writes: So...how many of us can kick in 20USD and see how far it goes? Good idea! Done! -tih -- Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. --Frank Zappa -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-17 Thread eckinator
2010/6/17 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: There was some news recently that Neanderthals and modern humans may have been inter-fertile, and that the Neanderthals may not have gone extinct as such, but were just subsumed into the mix. Love conquers all so they say. Or perhaps they were

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-17 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/17 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: There was some news recently that Neanderthals and modern humans may have been inter-fertile, and that the Neanderthals may not have gone extinct as such, but were just subsumed into the mix. Eg. what I linked to earlier in this thread:

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-17 Thread Bob W
If the results are correct, it means they were physically close enough together for intercourse, and that they were biologically compatible. To put love into intercourse is unfounded romanticism. It might have been rape. The social circumstances could be anywhere between respectful and

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-17 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/17 Bob W p...@web-options.com: My point was that if you look at modern man's known history and tally the societies that have not resorted to the latter two, you get a pretty short list. The likelihood that what we are today has evolved from something both expansionistic and exceedingly

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-17 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 15, 2010, at 16:17 , David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:18 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Who ever said more power means better use? Tim Allen. Right on! uargh huh huh hungh Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/16 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: But it's politically correct to assume that the nasty and violent humans caused the demise of the gentle and peace-loving Neanderthals. Don't see where political correctness came into this equation... Nobody knows if humans were more or less

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/16/2010 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/16 paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net: But it's politically correct to assume that the nasty and violent humans caused the demise of the gentle and peace-loving Neanderthals. Don't see where political correctness came into this

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Bob W
2010/6/16 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: But it's politically correct to assume that the nasty and violent humans caused the demise of the gentle and peace-loving Neanderthals. I don't think it's a matter of political correctness, but of people retaining a belief that was current

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Bob W
Don't see where political correctness came into this equation... Nobody knows if humans were more or less nasty than neanderthals. What we know is that modern humans go homicidal over mere tribal differences, have an excellent record of eliminating competitors on their level in the food

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Bob W
Don't see where political correctness came into this equation... Nobody knows if humans were more or less nasty than neanderthals. What we know is that modern humans go homicidal over mere tribal differences, have an excellent record of eliminating competitors on their level in the

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/16 Bob W p...@web-options.com: it's also entirely possible that modern people had nothing at all to do with the extinction of the Neandertals. They may have been on their way out anyway, as a result of changes to the environment to which they could not adapt. At the same time, modern

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/16 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I don't think there is much evidence to support the idea that modern humans are genetically determined to be homicidal maniacs eliminating all competition - I think that the type of violence described above is a result of cultural factors arising from the

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/16 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: I think you just described the Great Apes in general. Ohhh. that begs the comment speak for yourself... :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Bob W
If climate alone caused the 'thals' demise, modern man could have been expanding into vacant territory. However if the new studies correctly indicate interbreeding, it means that there was at least a partial overlap in the distribution ranges as the 'thals declined. there doesn't seem to

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread paul stenquist
On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/16 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: But it's politically correct to assume that the nasty and violent humans caused the demise of the gentle and peace-loving Neanderthals. Don't see where political correctness came into this

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
Remember that however pleasant it is now, for much of modern human existence Europe was a remote and impossible place for us to get to and to live in. That's how Americans view it now. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 2010/6/16 paul stenquist

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
My understanding is that Neandertals were built like The Incredible Hulk. I think of early humans as built like Mr Bean. Now who do you think is gonna win in that fight? You're going to need something more than violence to promote modern humans. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:51 AM,

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that Neandertals were built like The Incredible Hulk. I do my best. Dave I think of early humans as built like Mr Bean. Now who do you think is gonna win in that fight? You're going to need

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread William Robb
-- From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: The State of The List My understanding is that Neandertals were built like The Incredible Hulk. I think of early humans as built like Mr Bean. Now who do you think is gonna win in that fight? You're going

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/16/2010 5:24 AM, Bob W wrote: Don't see where political correctness came into this equation... Nobody knows if humans were more or less nasty than neanderthals. What we know is that modern humans go homicidal over mere tribal differences, have an excellent record of eliminating competitors

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/16/2010 5:51 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/16 Bob Wp...@web-options.com: it's also entirely possible that modern people had nothing at all to do with the extinction of the Neandertals. They may have been on their way out anyway, as a result of changes to the environment to which they

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm sorry, I thought you were the incredible bulk... (Yea I know but /somebody/ had to say it), On 6/16/2010 10:42 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that Neandertals were built like The Incredible Hulk.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto 2010/6/16 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: But it's politically correct to assume that the nasty and violent humans caused the demise of the gentle and peace-loving Neanderthals. Don't see where political correctness came into this equation... Nobody knows if humans

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/14/2010 10:45 PM, Bob W wrote: The Neanderthal Man was apparently not so düssel as originally thought! At any rate, his average brain:body size ratio exceeded ours, I believe. Bob Liquid spillage prevented only by laziness to get one... *keeps giggling* Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/14/2010 11:17 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/6/14 Bob Wp...@web-options.com: The Neanderthal Man was apparently not so düssel as originally thought! At any rate, his average brain:body size ratio exceeded ours, I believe. yes but that was an earlier revision with particular weakness in

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Sandy Harris
On 6/15/10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: At least now we can see who's opinion it is, I'd rather consensus from a debating multitude than that from a conclave. all the consensus in the world won't change a single fact - it's the democratic fallacy. Mike Padlipsky's line, sometime

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/15 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: The not so dussel (giggle) men managed to live on this dirt ball for 200,000 years, or at least this is what popular science TV program zombified me into believing of. Our kind (racial differences taken out of the account) is yet to beat that record.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/15/2010 10:30 AM, AlunFoto wrote: But wasn't it mentioned earlier in this thread that outside Africa, most humans have genes traceable to neanderthals? If modern humans interbred with the neanderthals it makes them just another race. Which means that with racial differences taken _into_

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread eckinator
2010/6/15 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: The not so dussel (giggle) men managed to live on this dirt ball for 200,000 years, or at least this is what popular science TV program zombified me into believing of. Our kind (racial differences taken out of the account) is yet to beat that

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread David Mann
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM, steve harley wrote: however a mailman list is a bit of a special case -- i don't know how its resource needs compare to websites; mailman is built into a lot of cheap hosting plans, but PDML's traffic may (or may not) be more than one should expect such a plan

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread David Mann
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Bob W wrote: Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) is it related to the pengo? I didn't know Antarctica had a currency. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/15 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: I am not entirely certain that genetic connections between neanderthals and cro-magnons have been established as a scientific fact... Perhaps it happened recently and I missed the news. Or perhaps it was yet another news-item is you know what I mean.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/15 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: I am not entirely certain that genetic connections between neanderthals and cro-magnons have been established as a scientific fact... Perhaps it happened recently and I missed the news. Or perhaps it was yet another news-item is you know what I mean.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Keith Whaley
Bob Sullivan wrote: Keith, Wikipedia - The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. It's a consensus encyclopedia built from public contributions. With enough effort, they might even become factual... Or maybe God really is the flying spagetti monster or that other guy. :-) Regards, Bob S.

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread John Coyle
Ethiopia? Just because Bob W loves the place John in Brisbane On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Bob W wrote: Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/15/2010 1:18 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/15 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: I am not entirely certain that genetic connections between neanderthals and cro-magnons have been established as a scientific fact... Perhaps it happened recently and I missed the news. Or perhaps it was yet

The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread eckinator
2010/6/15 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: FWIW, http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100512/full/465148a.html I can't help it but that guy looks like he's been taking hits from some prehistoric bong... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Bob W
that would be the birr. I know where the kwacha is used though. Ethiopia? Just because Bob W loves the place John in Brisbane On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Bob W wrote: Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up.

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Bob W
It's been a while since I got any zombification updates. But wasn't it mentioned earlier in this thread that outside Africa, most humans have genes traceable to neanderthals? those results are very new. The professional interpretations seem to swing between no interbreeding and some, but

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/15 Bob W p...@web-options.com: There are many other hypotheses which may explain the extinction of the Neandertals without modern humans as a contributory factory- the jury is still out on this question, and probably will be for a long time. Best to keep an eye on the literature and

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread Bob W
[...] As to the squirrels you mentioned, they are not to blame in a moral sense of the word. But surely competitive exclusion can be said to have a causing species? yes, of course, but it's not necessarily the only factor or even a particularly significant one. It's a fascinating subject and

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:18 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Who ever said more power means better use? Tim Allen. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-15 Thread paul stenquist
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Bob W wrote: It's been a while since I got any zombification updates. But wasn't it mentioned earlier in this thread that outside Africa, most humans have genes traceable to neanderthals? those results are very new. The professional interpretations seem to

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Yeah, right... ;-) On 6/14/2010 9:49 AM, Cotty wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: So...how many of us can kick in 20USD and see how far it goes? I did, just before reading this message. -p On 6/12/2010 5:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Doug - What kind of operating costs are we looking at? There

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Paul, I'm behind what you are saying 100%. Ecke or Dario, if you have cheaper ideas then lay them out for us. But don't forget you have 2-400 pdml subscribers, a digest, and lots of message traffic (200+ messages a day). In fact I am totally in

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Few of us are spending on film anymore so we have all of that money piling up from the unrealized expense. Mark! Yen! Drachma! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

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2010-06-14 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de --

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Another forum I belong to (not photography ;-) has a voluntary subscription rate of $30 per year through PayPal. It automatically charges me every May unless I stop it. This takes care of memory issues. Some (and I emphasize some) might be willing to so something similar for the PDML.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Just wait until Africa introduces a common currency... the coins will be fuzzy round the edges @;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. Things are starting to fly now. Dave -- Cheers,  Cotty ___/\__ ||  

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. Things are starting to fly

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Just wait until Africa introduces a common currency... the coins will be fuzzy round the edges @;) Not to mention all the curly bits. --

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) It sounds like something that will eventually be sold in a soy macchiato variety, perhaps even with a dash of caramel syrup and the smallest size will be

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/14/2010 10:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. Things

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Just wait until Africa introduces a common currency... the coins will be fuzzy round the edges @;) re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) is it related to the pengo? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved into the word 'dollar'. yes but it was

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved into the word 'dollar'. Way back when,

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved into the word 'dollar'. Way back when, a monetary unit in Norway

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-13 14:20 , Dario Bonazza wrote: This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Fernando
Done On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: So...how many of us can kick in 20USD and see how far it goes? -p On 6/12/2010 5:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Doug - What kind of operating costs are we looking at?  There should be no

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: And we should start referring to Neanderdollar Man. Also affectionately referred to as Bucky Newman, then? Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Neanderthal is the Neander Valley. 'Neander' is an invented word made up by a chap called Neumann which in English is New Man. Oh really? Silly old me had always thought that the Neandertal, which is (quite appropriately) located near Dusseldorf, had its

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Neanderthal is the Neander Valley. 'Neander' is an invented word made up by a chap called Neumann which in English is New Man. Oh really? Silly old me had always thought that the Neandertal, which is (quite

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Neanderthal is the Neander Valley. 'Neander' is an invented word made up by a chap called Neumann which in English is New Man. Oh really? Silly old me had always thought that the Neandertal, which is (quite appropriately) located near Dusseldorf, had its name from the river Neander

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Silly old me had always thought that the Neandertal, which is (quite appropriately) located near Dusseldorf, had its name from the river Neander flowing through it. The Neander meanders through it... Neumann must have given his name to the river, then.

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Silly old me had always thought that the Neandertal, which is (quite appropriately) located near Dusseldorf, had its name from the river Neander flowing through it. The Neander meanders through it... Neumann must have given his name to the river, then. The river was called the

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: The Neanderthal Man was apparently not so düssel as originally thought! At any rate, his average brain:body size ratio exceeded ours, I believe. yes but that was an earlier revision with particular weakness in floating point... size doesn't always

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-14 13:45 , Bob W wrote: The Neanderthal Man was apparently not so düssel as originally thought! At any rate, his average brain:body size ratio exceeded ours, I believe. not to mention that there's evidence of a significant amount of interbreeding Any human whose ancestral group

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 steve harley p...@paper-ape.com: not to mention that there's evidence of a significant amount of interbreeding Any human whose ancestral group developed outside Africa has a little Neanderthal in them – between 1 and 4 per cent of their genome

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) Africa. More than one

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W Ecke, You know Wikipedia is just story telling, not authoritatively factual. Regards. Bob S. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Neanderthal is the Neander Valley.

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
My information about it didn't come from wikipedia, it comes from years and years of reading popular accounts of the evolution of humans by the scientists involved. And from studying languages and linguistics. Bob Bob W Ecke, You know Wikipedia is just story telling, not authoritatively

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/15 Bob W p...@web-options.com: My information about it didn't come from wikipedia, it comes from years and years of reading popular accounts of the evolution of humans by the scientists involved. And from studying languages and linguistics. Funny how even that sort of stuff precipitates

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
2010/6/15 Bob W p...@web-options.com: My information about it didn't come from wikipedia, it comes from years and years of reading popular accounts of the evolution of humans by the scientists involved. And from studying languages and linguistics. Funny how even that sort of stuff

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Keith Whaley
Bob Sullivan wrote: Bob W Ecke, You know Wikipedia is just story telling, not authoritatively factual. Regards. Bob S. Source? keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Keith, Wikipedia - The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. It's a consensus encyclopedia built from public contributions. With enough effort, they might even become factual... Or maybe God really is the flying spagetti monster or that other guy. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
As long as it's not about a controversial figure or subject it's usually pretty good. On 6/14/2010 5:54 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bob W Ecke, You know Wikipedia is just story telling, not authoritatively factual. Regards. Bob S. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15/06/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Keith, Wikipedia - The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. It's a consensus encyclopedia built from public contributions. With enough effort, they might even become factual... Or maybe God really is the flying spagetti monster or

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Keith, Wikipedia - The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. It's a consensus encyclopedia built from public contributions. With enough effort, they might even become factual... Or maybe God really is the flying spagetti monster or that other guy. :-) At least now we can see who's

The state of the list.

2010-06-13 Thread Malcolm Smith
Done and very happily so. Just go here and press the Donate button: http://www.pdml.net/ Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread David Mann
On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: I've considered a number of scenarios, from a community print sale to raise funds, to just handing it over to someone who can afford to keep it going, to joining the 21st century and going to a web-based thing, but that would still have to

Re: The state of the list.

2010-06-13 Thread Pete McIntosh
On 13/06/2010 5:46 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Done and very happily so. Just go here and press the Donate button: http://www.pdml.net/ Malcolm Ditto for me too. Regards, Pete Mac in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Carlos R
Doug, if you put that Paypal button on the PDML page, I'll contribute. You have been working hard to keep the list alive and at the very least we should support your effort by sharing the costs. I'm sorry to know that you have been going through difficult times. I am also in dire straits, not

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Carlos R
I have just seen the Donate button on the page. Done. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread mike wilson
Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal needs; no notice

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Carlos R
Ditto mike wilson escribió: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for

Re: The State of The List: Donation (can't post to the list; Gaetan Beauchamp)PDML Digest, Vol 50, Issue 124

2010-06-13 Thread Gaëtan Beauchamp
: The State of The List Message-ID: 304865383-1276395737-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-14464640...@bda110.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain jeez, Doug, how stupid of us/me not to realize that this had to cost money. Don't eBay the K20D. That's too much irony even

Re: The State of The List: Donation (can't post to the list; Gaetan Beauchamp)PDML Digest, Vol 50, Issue 124

2010-06-13 Thread mike wilson
Gaëtan Beauchamp wrote: Hello, I have donate to the list maintener Mr. Brewer. I encourage everyone to do so. Gaetan Beauchamp As a side issue, maybe posters would like to take more care with trimming posts of unneeded excrescences. Especially as I (guilty as anyone) am paying, now.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread eckinator
2010/6/13 Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es: Ditto Ditto, too. What's Beth got to do with it, anyway? Cheers Ecke PS: My thanks to Doug for doing this! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Doug Brewer
mike wilson wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: I love The List, though, and I want to remain somewhat relevant. So I'm going to add, assuming I get permission from our hosting company, a paypal donate button to the pdml.net home page. What a bargain. Feel free to use any excess for personal

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Bob W
[...] Seriously, within minutes of posting my last reply to this thread, Baby Girl, propelled by The Boy, collided with an immovable object, necessitating an eventual evening in the ER that stretched into the way dark, so sorry I haven't replied sooner. That was followed up by my debit card

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Just donated money and glad to hear your disasters were resolved--sort of. Glad the K20 is safe. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:08 AM Subject: Re: The State

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread William Robb
-- From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: The State of The List Baby Girl is OK, though-- just a good bone bruise-- and so is the PDML account. You have heeded the call admirably, and my K20 is safe for the moment. Thank you all very much. I wish I

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Bill's right. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ever hesitate to make this a regular thing. You shouldn't have to foot the bill for us louts. William Robb -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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