Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
How did you do that?  I can't even reach the site now.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:45 PM Jostein  wrote:

> PPG has gone stale.
> I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account
> be closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.
>
> Jostein
>
> Den 15.08.2018 16:04, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
> > Same here.
> >
> > Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
> > When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
> > "captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
> > sent to Ricoh.
> >
> > Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
> > got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to
> steal
> > your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"
> >
> > Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try
> to
> > communicate with them?
> >
> > It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
> >> me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
> >> Anything on your end?
> >>
> >> Bong
> >>
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ricoh does some marketing and apparently has deals with B, Amazon and others 
to promote Pentax products. That’s efficient marketing. PPG is hugely 
inefficient. It has to be staffed and maintained, and then for it to be 
effective, it has to be promoted. Not a good way to spend a thin marketing 
budget.

> On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:37 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> The PPG was a creature of Pentax marketing, itself a kind of unicorn, at best 
> an afterthought since sometime in the 70's. RIcoh has aparently contracted 
> the Asahi marketing disease which seems to amount to if you build it they 
> will come.  Unfortunately if you don't advertise it who will know...
> 
> 
> On 8/20/2018 2:15 PM, d...@dougbrewerphoto.com wrote:
>> PPG went stale about six months after it opened, once they stopped paying 
>> any attention to it.
>> 
>> Sent from my evil super-villain lair, mobile headquarters
>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jostein  wrote:
>>> 
>>> PPG has gone stale.
>>> I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account be 
>>> closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.
>>> 
>>> Jostein
>>> 
>>> Den 15.08.2018 16:04, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
 Same here.
 Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
 When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
 "captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
 sent to Ricoh.
 Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
 got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
 your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"
 Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
 communicate with them?
 It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon  
> wrote:
> Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
> me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
> Anything on your end?
> 
> Bong
> 
> --
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-21 Thread P. J. Alling
The PPG was a creature of Pentax marketing, itself a kind of unicorn, at 
best an afterthought since sometime in the 70's. RIcoh has aparently 
contracted the Asahi marketing disease which seems to amount to if you 
build it they will come.  Unfortunately if you don't advertise it who 
will know...



On 8/20/2018 2:15 PM, d...@dougbrewerphoto.com wrote:

PPG went stale about six months after it opened, once they stopped paying any 
attention to it.

Sent from my evil super-villain lair, mobile headquarters


On Aug 20, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jostein  wrote:

PPG has gone stale.
I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account be 
closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.

Jostein

Den 15.08.2018 16:04, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Same here.
Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
"captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
sent to Ricoh.
Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"
Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
communicate with them?
It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon  wrote:
Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
Anything on your end?

Bong

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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-20 Thread Mark Roberts
d...@dougbrewerphoto.com wrote:

>> On Aug 20, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jostein  wrote:
>> 
>> PPG has gone stale.
>> I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account be 
>> closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.
>> 
>PPG went stale about six months after it opened, once they stopped paying any 
>attention to it.

Yep. Maintaining a site like that takes *work*. It was such a good
idea, too. Not that there's anything wrong with sites like Flickr,
Tumblr, Instagram, etc., etc., etc., where you decide for yourself
which of your images get posted, but there's real value in a *curated*
gallery. Ten years of editing the PDML Photo Annual has shown me just
how many people aren't good judges of what constitutes their own best
work.

Where the PPG failed was in not finding an adequate way of
incentivizing image voting and not promoting the resulting gallery,
touting its difference from other online galleries.
 
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-20 Thread d...@dougbrewerphoto.com
PPG went stale about six months after it opened, once they stopped paying any 
attention to it.

Sent from my evil super-villain lair, mobile headquarters 

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jostein  wrote:
> 
> PPG has gone stale.
> I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account be 
> closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.
> 
> Jostein
> 
> Den 15.08.2018 16:04, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
>> Same here.
>> Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
>> When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
>> "captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
>> sent to Ricoh.
>> Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
>> got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
>> your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"
>> Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
>> communicate with them?
>> It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon  wrote:
>>> Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
>>> me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
>>> Anything on your end?
>>> 
>>> Bong
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Bong Manayon
>>> http://bong.manayon.net
>>> 
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-20 Thread Ken Waller


The Pentax gallery is like the hotel Hollywood.

-Original Message-
>From: Jostein 
>Subject: Re: more PPG woes?
>
>PPG has gone stale.
>I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account 
>be closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.
>
>Jostein
>
>Den 15.08.2018 16:04, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
>> Same here.
>> 
>> Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
>> When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
>> "captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
>> sent to Ricoh.
>> 
>> Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
>> got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
>> your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"
>> 
>> Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
>> communicate with them?
>> 
>> It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon  wrote:
>> 
>>> Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
>>> me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
>>> Anything on your end?
>>>
>>> Bong
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bong Manayon
>>> http://bong.manayon.net


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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-20 Thread Jostein

PPG has gone stale.
I have removed my files from the gallery and requested that my account 
be closed and removed. There's no button for opting out.


Jostein

Den 15.08.2018 16:04, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Same here.

Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
"captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
sent to Ricoh.

Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"

Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
communicate with them?

It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(



Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon  wrote:


Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
Anything on your end?

Bong

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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 03:44 PM 8/16/2018, Mark Roberts wrote:

>The net effect is to penalize small, independent web sites compared to big, 
>corporate sites. (Which is probably one of the goals, anyway.)

Fortunately I do not depend upon search engines for traffic. My domains are 
highly specialized and most of the traffic comes from links from other highly 
specialized sites or from my signature on message boards or lists other than 
this one.

Dale H. Cook, many years as 35mm SLR photographer,
now Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking-
around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens 


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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Dale H. Cook wrote:

>At 10:48 AM 8/16/2018, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>>That just means they're using the standard http protocol instead of https 
>>(encrypted). I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you're giving the site 
>>private personal information or credit card numbers.
>
>This is a phenomenon that has become common. Even though neither of my domains 
>is engaged in commerce, and there isn't anything in either domain that 
>requires a login through http, I have converted both to https just to avoid 
>emails from folks who think that a site is broken if they get the "has 
>configured their website improperly" message.

Same here. I converted my site over because search engines are now
penalizing sites that aren't https, even if they don't do e-commerce
or anything else that requires security. The net effect is to penalize
small, independent web sites compared to big, corporate sites. (Which
is probably one of the goals, anyway.)
 
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 10:48 AM 8/16/2018, Mark Roberts wrote:

>That just means they're using the standard http protocol instead of https 
>(encrypted). I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you're giving the site 
>private personal information or credit card numbers.

This is a phenomenon that has become common. Even though neither of my domains 
is engaged in commerce, and there isn't anything in either domain that requires 
a login through http, I have converted both to https just to avoid emails from 
folks who think that a site is broken if they get the "has configured their 
website improperly" message.

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administrator of plymouthcolony.net
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread John
In Firefox there should be a pop-down banner accompanying the message that 
allows you to tell Firefox you accept the risk and to go ahead & load the page.


On 8/16/2018 10:32, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This is the message I get on both Google Chrome and Firefox:

Your connection is not secure

The owner of pentaxphotogallery.com has configured their website
improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not
connected to this website.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


Same here.

Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
"captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
sent to Ricoh.

Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"

Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
communicate with them?

It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(



Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon 
wrote:


Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
Anything on your end?

Bong

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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread Matthew Hunt
They're using https but their certificate expired two days ago, hence the
error message:

pentaxphotogallery.com uses an invalid security certificate. The
certificate expired on Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 11:43:18 AM. The current
time is August 16, 2018, 11:17 AM.

Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:49 AM Mark Roberts 
wrote:

> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> >This is the message I get on both Google Chrome and Firefox:
> >
> >Your connection is not secure
> >
> >The owner of pentaxphotogallery.com has configured their website
> >improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not
> >connected to this website.
>
> That just means they're using the standard http protocol instead of
> https (encrypted). I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you're
> giving the site private personal information or credit card numbers.
>
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>This is the message I get on both Google Chrome and Firefox:
>
>Your connection is not secure
>
>The owner of pentaxphotogallery.com has configured their website
>improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not
>connected to this website.

That just means they're using the standard http protocol instead of
https (encrypted). I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you're
giving the site private personal information or credit card numbers.
 
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
This is the message I get on both Google Chrome and Firefox:

Your connection is not secure

The owner of pentaxphotogallery.com has configured their website
improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not
connected to this website.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> Same here.
>
> Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
> When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
> "captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
> sent to Ricoh.
>
> Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
> got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
> your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"
>
> Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
> communicate with them?
>
> It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(
>
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon 
> wrote:
>
>> Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
>> me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
>> Anything on your end?
>>
>> Bong
>>
>> --
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>> http://bong.manayon.net
>>
>
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Re: more PPG woes?

2018-08-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Same here.

Last week, I check the PPG site, and the Upload page was still broken.
When I tried to send them a message through the contact page.  the
"captcha" could not be satisfied, and would not permit the message to be
sent to Ricoh.

Late last night, I tried again, and received a message like the one you
got:  "Your connection is not Private.  Attackers might be trying to steal
your information from pentaxphotogallery.com"

Does anyone have a general email for PentaxRicoh that we can ise to try to
communicate with them?

It looks like the PPG is dead.  :(



Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Bong Manayon  wrote:

> Tried going into PPG today and my browser/security program would not let
> me. "Unsecure" site...I tend to trust it so am not going to try...yet.
> Anything on your end?
>
> Bong
>
> --
> Bong Manayon
> http://bong.manayon.net
>
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