Re: A River Runs Through

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 30.05.20 um 19:54 schrieb John:


They're the history of your life. Even if you never look at more than a
few of them, they still are who you were and who you are.


Exactly.

They won't eat any of Stan's bread, as we say here. And sooner or later
he'd be sorry to have discarded them.

Ralf

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Re: A River Runs Through

[John]

Sorry for your loss.

Something you can tell Meg about those old negatives ...

In 1996 Hurricane Fran nearly destroyed my house. It blew half the roof off 
followed by torrential rain. The half of the house that was inundated included 
the room where I had the binders with all of my sleeved negatives, contact 
sheets & slides.


After the rain drenched the the shelves where the binders were located, the 
ceiling came down and collapsed the shelves, burying the binders under old 
plaster & rock-wool insulation. Because of the burden of other duties (National 
Guard was activated for disaster relief) it was a couple of weeks before I could 
get to them.


I managed to salvage less than half a dozen pages out of 6 or 7 binders. I 
couldn't even salvage the binders themselves. All these years later it still 
hurts to think about the loss.


"Why keep those?"

They're the history of your life. Even if you never look at more than a few of 
them, they still are who you were and who you are.


On 5/26/2020 22:33:49, Stan Halpin wrote:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8
inches inside. So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash
pickup, much still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to
preserve/restore... [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my
computer also, my five backup external drive all had water inside which I
poured out. We’ll find their fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those?
Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few
flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could
go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would
make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to
find and produce 5 prints.” I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns
out that my digital archives are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2
weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking
for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and
dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our
insurance coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I
can revisit that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Bob Pdml]

> On 28 May 2020, at 10:59, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 27/5/20, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>>We live on a river
> 
> I had heard something in the news about a dam bursting, had no idea this was 
> your area!
> 
> Here's some video for context:
> 
> 

Re: A River Runs Through

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 28.05.20 um 11:58 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


I had heard something in the news about a dam bursting, had no idea this was 
your area!


Indeed it was all over the news in Europe. One of the few items to raise
its head above all the Corona, Corona, Corona...

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Steve Cottrell]

On 27/5/20, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>   We live on a river

I had heard something in the news about a dam bursting, had no idea this was 
your area!

Here's some video for context:



Cot


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Re: A River Runs Through

[mike wilson]

Wash them thoroughly in fresh water, keeping going until as much of the dirty 
water inside has gone as you can manage.  If there's no sign of water inside, 
don't exercise the focus and zoom.  Find yourself a big sack of indicating 
silica gel crystals, the stuff that goes from blue to pink as it expires, and 
then pack each lens into an airtight (biscuit tin airtight will do) container, 
immersed in the gel.  Keep moving the gel around to keep the blue stuff next to 
the lens.  Gently work focus and zoom to force air changes, as the colour 
changing reduces. If it all turns pink, swap it for more blue.  The pink stuff 
can be regenerated in a domestic oven.  Keep going until there are no traces of 
pink.

All this is, I'm afraid, only a precursor to having the lenses serviced.  
There's bound to be quite a bit of debris inside.  But at least you should 
reduce any direct water damage.

> On 28 May 2020 at 01:11 Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> 
> And BTW, does anybody need a freshly washed FA PZ 28-105? Maybe a few M 
> series Leica lenses?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On May 27, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Stan Halpin  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks all got your supportive And helpful comments. 
> > A bit of the back story and a brief update.
> >We live on a river, the Chippewa about .5 miles downriver from the 
> > confluence with the Pine River, about two miles upriver from the confluence 
> > with the Tittibawasee which then joins the Saginaw river and flows into 
> > Saginaw Bay which is an appendage of Lake Huron. Between them, the Pine, 
> > Chippewa, and Tittibawasee drain a very large watershed. Basically flat 
> > country, meandering rivers. We look south over a large bend in the 
> > Chippewa, and about a mile to our north the Tittibawasee roughly parallels 
> > the Chippewa the two getting closer and eventually merging at downtown 
> > Midland.
> >10-12 days ago ( I am loosing track!) a low pressure system parked over 
> > the region and dumped many inches of rain. The hydro section of our 
> > National Weather Service predicted a rise of the Tittibawasee up to X feet 
> > at their river gauge. From past experience I knew that X height would mean 
> > approximately 26-28 inches of water in our garage, but said garage is 30” 
> > below the level of our single level home, so no big deal. We moved the car 
> > etc from the garage to higher levels according to a long developed and 
> > tested plan.
> >Then Tuesday a week ago came the big oopsie. The Tittibawasee has 
> > several small dams not too far upriver from town. They hold back enough 
> > water to create recreational lakes but also allow the owner to 
> > generate/sell hydro power. One failed, (predictably given the owners 
> > record), the next one downstream was failing, the predicted crest was now 
> > about five feet higher. Of the roughly 40,000 persons in our town, 10,000 
> > (including us) were issued immediate evacuation notices. We grabbed a few 
> > things and headed for higher ground 20 miles west. Not too long after that 
> > the East-west road behind us closer to town was closed due to water over 
> > the road. Two days later we came back to our home. The good news was that 
> > the second dam partially held, enough to slow the flow somewhat, and the 
> > eventual crest was only a bit over the historic high, which for us meant 
> > only 27 3/8 inches of water in the house. “ONLY” that much as worst case 
> > would have been another 2 feet higher, or more.
> > 
> > Enough for today, I’ll continue with update tomorrow... Slowly recovering, 
> > it will be weeks or months.
> > 
> > Stan
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On May 27, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> >> 
> >> So sorry to hear this, Stan.  Hopefully your insurance will come through 
> >> and soon life can return to some normalcy.
> >> 
> >> With regard to your photos/images in whatever form you can recover them - 
> >> over the years I've lost possession of a multitude of images.  The 
> >> flowers, landscapes, etc all invoke memories of good times but they are 
> >> all pretty esoteric and can be replaced with other pretty pictures.  Those 
> >> I regret losing the most, and would be the first to be saved during a 
> >> culling, are the people pictures - the ones that would show future 
> >> generations who we were and how we lived.
> >> 
> >> -p
> >> 
>  On 5/26/2020 9:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
> >>> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 
> >>> 3/8 inches inside.
> >>> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, 
> >>> much still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to 
> >>> preserve/restore...
> >>> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
> >>> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
> >>> find their fate sometime but not now.]
> >>> 
> >>> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I 
> 

Re: A River Runs Through

[Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery]

I wonder if one can dry it in rice but not sure that it works.

On 5/27/2020 7:11 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

And BTW, does anybody need a freshly washed FA PZ 28-105? Maybe a few M series 
Leica lenses?

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RE: A River Runs Through

[jcoyle]

That 28-105 was one of my favourite lens, until I dropped it in China!


John in Brisbane



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Subject: Re: A River Runs Through 

And BTW, does anybody need a freshly washed FA PZ 28-105? Maybe a few M series 
Leica lenses?

Sent from my iPad

> On May 27, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all got your supportive And helpful comments. 
> A bit of the back story and a brief update.
>We live on a river, the Chippewa about .5 miles downriver from the 
> confluence with the Pine River, about two miles upriver from the confluence 
> with the Tittibawasee which then joins the Saginaw river and flows into 
> Saginaw Bay which is an appendage of Lake Huron. Between them, the Pine, 
> Chippewa, and Tittibawasee drain a very large watershed. Basically flat 
> country, meandering rivers. We look south over a large bend in the Chippewa, 
> and about a mile to our north the Tittibawasee roughly parallels the Chippewa 
> the two getting closer and eventually merging at downtown Midland.
>10-12 days ago ( I am loosing track!) a low pressure system parked over 
> the region and dumped many inches of rain. The hydro section of our National 
> Weather Service predicted a rise of the Tittibawasee up to X feet at their 
> river gauge. From past experience I knew that X height would mean 
> approximately 26-28 inches of water in our garage, but said garage is 30” 
> below the level of our single level home, so no big deal. We moved the car 
> etc from the garage to higher levels according to a long developed and tested 
> plan.
>Then Tuesday a week ago came the big oopsie. The Tittibawasee has several 
> small dams not too far upriver from town. They hold back enough water to 
> create recreational lakes but also allow the owner to generate/sell hydro 
> power. One failed, (predictably given the owners record), the next one 
> downstream was failing, the predicted crest was now about five feet higher. 
> Of the roughly 40,000 persons in our town, 10,000 (including us) were issued 
> immediate evacuation notices. We grabbed a few things and headed for higher 
> ground 20 miles west. Not too long after that the East-west road behind us 
> closer to town was closed due to water over the road. Two days later we came 
> back to our home. The good news was that the second dam partially held, 
> enough to slow the flow somewhat, and the eventual crest was only a bit over 
> the historic high, which for us meant only 27 3/8 inches of water in the 
> house. “ONLY” that much as worst case would have been another 2 feet higher, 
> or more.
> 
> Enough for today, I’ll continue with update tomorrow... Slowly recovering, it 
> will be weeks or months.
> 
> Stan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 27, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>> 
>> So sorry to hear this, Stan.  Hopefully your insurance will come through 
>> and soon life can return to some normalcy.
>> 
>> With regard to your photos/images in whatever form you can recover them - 
>> over the years I've lost possession of a multitude of images.  The flowers, 
>> landscapes, etc all invoke memories of good times but they are all pretty 
>> esoteric and can be replaced with other pretty pictures.  Those I regret 
>> losing the most, and would be the first to be saved during a culling, are 
>> the people pictures - the ones that would show future generations who we 
>> were and how we lived.
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>>>> On 5/26/2020 9:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
>>> inches inside.
>>> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
>>> still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
>>> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
>>> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
>>> find their fate sometime but not now.]
>>> 
>>> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I 
>>> mention that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved 
>>> negatives and contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why 
>>> keep those? Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me 
>>> to print a few flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I 
>>> suppose I could go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg 
>>> says: “That would make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of 
>>&

Re: A River Runs Through

[Stan Halpin]

And BTW, does anybody need a freshly washed FA PZ 28-105? Maybe a few M series 
Leica lenses?

Sent from my iPad

> On May 27, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all got your supportive And helpful comments. 
> A bit of the back story and a brief update.
>We live on a river, the Chippewa about .5 miles downriver from the 
> confluence with the Pine River, about two miles upriver from the confluence 
> with the Tittibawasee which then joins the Saginaw river and flows into 
> Saginaw Bay which is an appendage of Lake Huron. Between them, the Pine, 
> Chippewa, and Tittibawasee drain a very large watershed. Basically flat 
> country, meandering rivers. We look south over a large bend in the Chippewa, 
> and about a mile to our north the Tittibawasee roughly parallels the Chippewa 
> the two getting closer and eventually merging at downtown Midland.
>10-12 days ago ( I am loosing track!) a low pressure system parked over 
> the region and dumped many inches of rain. The hydro section of our National 
> Weather Service predicted a rise of the Tittibawasee up to X feet at their 
> river gauge. From past experience I knew that X height would mean 
> approximately 26-28 inches of water in our garage, but said garage is 30” 
> below the level of our single level home, so no big deal. We moved the car 
> etc from the garage to higher levels according to a long developed and tested 
> plan.
>Then Tuesday a week ago came the big oopsie. The Tittibawasee has several 
> small dams not too far upriver from town. They hold back enough water to 
> create recreational lakes but also allow the owner to generate/sell hydro 
> power. One failed, (predictably given the owners record), the next one 
> downstream was failing, the predicted crest was now about five feet higher. 
> Of the roughly 40,000 persons in our town, 10,000 (including us) were issued 
> immediate evacuation notices. We grabbed a few things and headed for higher 
> ground 20 miles west. Not too long after that the East-west road behind us 
> closer to town was closed due to water over the road. Two days later we came 
> back to our home. The good news was that the second dam partially held, 
> enough to slow the flow somewhat, and the eventual crest was only a bit over 
> the historic high, which for us meant only 27 3/8 inches of water in the 
> house. “ONLY” that much as worst case would have been another 2 feet higher, 
> or more.
> 
> Enough for today, I’ll continue with update tomorrow... Slowly recovering, it 
> will be weeks or months.
> 
> Stan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 27, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>> 
>> So sorry to hear this, Stan.  Hopefully your insurance will come through 
>> and soon life can return to some normalcy.
>> 
>> With regard to your photos/images in whatever form you can recover them - 
>> over the years I've lost possession of a multitude of images.  The flowers, 
>> landscapes, etc all invoke memories of good times but they are all pretty 
>> esoteric and can be replaced with other pretty pictures.  Those I regret 
>> losing the most, and would be the first to be saved during a culling, are 
>> the people pictures - the ones that would show future generations who we 
>> were and how we lived.
>> 
>> -p
>> 
 On 5/26/2020 9:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
>>> inches inside.
>>> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
>>> still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
>>> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
>>> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
>>> find their fate sometime but not now.]
>>> 
>>> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I 
>>> mention that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved 
>>> negatives and contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why 
>>> keep those? Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me 
>>> to print a few flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I 
>>> suppose I could go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg 
>>> says: “That would make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of 
>>> negatives just to find and produce 5 prints.”
>>> I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital 
>>> archives are also toast.
>>> 
>>> Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will 
>>> spend 3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. 
>>> Another 2 weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll 
>>> be looking for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, 
>>> washer and dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that 
>>> our insurance coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us 
>>> and 

Re: A River Runs Through

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks all got your supportive And helpful comments. 
A bit of the back story and a brief update.
We live on a river, the Chippewa about .5 miles downriver from the 
confluence with the Pine River, about two miles upriver from the confluence 
with the Tittibawasee which then joins the Saginaw river and flows into Saginaw 
Bay which is an appendage of Lake Huron. Between them, the Pine, Chippewa, and 
Tittibawasee drain a very large watershed. Basically flat country, meandering 
rivers. We look south over a large bend in the Chippewa, and about a mile to 
our north the Tittibawasee roughly parallels the Chippewa the two getting 
closer and eventually merging at downtown Midland.   
10-12 days ago ( I am loosing track!) a low pressure system parked over 
the region and dumped many inches of rain. The hydro section of our National 
Weather Service predicted a rise of the Tittibawasee up to X feet at their 
river gauge. From past experience I knew that X height would mean approximately 
26-28 inches of water in our garage, but said garage is 30” below the level of 
our single level home, so no big deal. We moved the car etc from the garage to 
higher levels according to a long developed and tested plan.
Then Tuesday a week ago came the big oopsie. The Tittibawasee has 
several small dams not too far upriver from town. They hold back enough water 
to create recreational lakes but also allow the owner to generate/sell hydro 
power. One failed, (predictably given the owners record), the next one 
downstream was failing, the predicted crest was now about five feet higher. Of 
the roughly 40,000 persons in our town, 10,000 (including us) were issued 
immediate evacuation notices. We grabbed a few things and headed for higher 
ground 20 miles west. Not too long after that the East-west road behind us 
closer to town was closed due to water over the road. Two days later we came 
back to our home. The good news was that the second dam partially held, enough 
to slow the flow somewhat, and the eventual crest was only a bit over the 
historic high, which for us meant only 27 3/8 inches of water in the house. 
“ONLY” that much as worst case would have been another 2 feet higher, or more.

Enough for today, I’ll continue with update tomorrow... Slowly recovering, it 
will be weeks or months.

Stan

Sent from my iPad

> On May 27, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> So sorry to hear this, Stan.  Hopefully your insurance will come through and 
> soon life can return to some normalcy.
> 
> With regard to your photos/images in whatever form you can recover them - 
> over the years I've lost possession of a multitude of images.  The flowers, 
> landscapes, etc all invoke memories of good times but they are all pretty 
> esoteric and can be replaced with other pretty pictures.  Those I regret 
> losing the most, and would be the first to be saved during a culling, are the 
> people pictures - the ones that would show future generations who we were and 
> how we lived.
> 
> -p
> 
>> On 5/26/2020 9:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
>> inches inside.
>> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
>> still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
>> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
>> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
>> find their fate sometime but not now.]
>> 
>> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
>> that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
>> contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? 
>> Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a 
>> few flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I 
>> could go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: 
>> “That would make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of 
>> negatives just to find and produce 5 prints.”
>> I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital 
>> archives are also toast.
>> 
>> Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
>> 3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 
>> weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking 
>> for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and 
>> dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our 
>> insurance coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and 
>> I can revisit that thought about a 645Z...
>> Thought for the day: avoid floods.
>> 
>> Stan
>> 
>> Sent from my
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: A River Runs Through

[Paul Sorenson]

So sorry to hear this, Stan.  Hopefully your insurance will come through 
and soon life can return to some normalcy.


With regard to your photos/images in whatever form you can recover them 
- over the years I've lost possession of a multitude of images.  The 
flowers, landscapes, etc all invoke memories of good times but they are 
all pretty esoteric and can be replaced with other pretty pictures.  
Those I regret losing the most, and would be the first to be saved 
during a culling, are the people pictures - the ones that would show 
future generations who we were and how we lived.


-p

On 5/26/2020 9:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.
So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find their 
fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few flower 
macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go back to 
using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would make more 
sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to find and 
produce 5 prints.”
I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 weeks 
after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking for new 
stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and dryer, 
bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can revisit 
that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery]

So sorry to read about what you all are having to go through. People 
keep telling me to look on the bright side but that is always easier 
said than done. The only bright side I see with y'alls situation is you 
will be starting now with new everything. I do hope you will be able to 
recover your photographic memories.


On 5/26/2020 9:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.
So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find their 
fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few flower 
macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go back to 
using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would make more 
sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to find and 
produce 5 prints.”
I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 weeks 
after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking for new 
stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and dryer, 
bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can revisit 
that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through

[ann sanfedele]

Being one of those who knew a little sooner and not being sure how much 
you were wanting to spill (no pun) just jumping in here to send you more 
virtual hugs and hope the most precious of those older images can be 
retrieved.  I'm still regretting certain photos, letters even some 
clothing that someone had
sensibly (or not) suggested I dispose of and I bent.. as far back as 
1958. If they can be put aside for a calmer time without deteriorating 
farther.. but then I'm just a sentimental old broad.


Can't imagine how much work is ahead of you.. I'd be crumbling. but glad 
you are safe and still have your home still standing.


xo,
ann

On 5/26/2020 10:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.
So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find their 
fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few flower 
macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go back to 
using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would make more 
sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to find and 
produce 5 prints.”
I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 weeks 
after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking for new 
stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and dryer, 
bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can revisit 
that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through

[mike wilson]

> On 27 May 2020 at 03:33 Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> 
> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
> inches inside.
> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
> still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
> find their fate sometime but not now.]
> 
> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
> that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
> contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? 
> Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few 
> flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could 
> go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would 
> make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to 
> find and produce 5 prints.”
> I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital 
> archives are also toast.
> 
> Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
> 3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 
> weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking 
> for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and 
> dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our 
> insurance coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I 
> can revisit that thought about a 645Z...
> Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Second only to fire for devastation.  I recommend dehumidifiers rather than 
fans.  Keep the doors and windows closed and try to find ones that self-empty.  
They will be quicker and more effective.

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Henk Terhell]

Stan, sorry to hear about your troubles with the flood. Good luck with 
all the cleaning.

Your thought of the day of avoiding floods is not an easy message.
It is however a useful warning to look into my own storage of pictures, 
though I keep a part of it in the cloud.


Henk

Op 2020-05-27 om 04:33 schreef Stan Halpin:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.
So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find their 
fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few flower 
macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go back to 
using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would make more 
sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to find and 
produce 5 prints.”
I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 weeks 
after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking for new 
stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and dryer, 
bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can revisit 
that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 27.05.20 um 04:33 schrieb Stan Halpin:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.


Yikes! Sorry to hear about this.

I second Mike's suggestion with the dehumidifiers. Then again, if
they're professionals they'll know what to do.

Watch out for mold. I've had to throw away furniture that came from my
parents' garden house which used to be flooded at least once every year,
even though the furniture had been taken out before the floods and then
brought back in. It was so smelly it cut my breath. Then again, I suffer
from various allergies, mostly dust and mold.

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Bob Pdml]

That’s really terrible, Stan - where did the flood come from? I hope you can 
restore everything as best possible, quickly. Meg sounds very wise.

> On 27 May 2020, at 03:34, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
> inches inside.
> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
> still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
> find their fate sometime but not now.]
> 
> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
> that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
> contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? 
> Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few 
> flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could 
> go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would 
> make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to 
> find and produce 5 prints.”
> I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital 
> archives are also toast.
> 
> Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
> 3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 
> weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking 
> for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and 
> dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our 
> insurance coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I 
> can revisit that thought about a 645Z...
> Thought for the day: avoid floods.
> 
> Stan
> 
> Sent from my 
> 
> 
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Re: A River Runs Through

[Ken Waller]

Sorry to hear of your flooding Stan.

A few years back, I went through approximately 20K slides dating back 40+ years 
of shooting and wound up with about a thousand I deemed worth keeping.
Glad I did that.


-Original Message-
>From: Stan Halpin 
>Sent: May 26, 2020 10:33 PM
>Subject: A River Runs Through 
>
>As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
>inches inside.
>So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
>still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
>[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
>backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find 
>their fate sometime but not now.]
>
>So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
>that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
>contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
>you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few 
>flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go 
>back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would 
>make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to 
>find and produce 5 prints.”
>I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
>are also toast.
>
>Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
>3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 
>weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking 
>for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and 
>dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
>coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can 
>revisit that thought about a 645Z...
>Thought for the day: avoid floods.
>
>Stan
>
>Sent from my 


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Re: A River Runs Through

[Alan C]

That's terrible, Stan. Hope you manage to sort out most of it.

Alan C

On 27-May-20 04:33 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.
So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find their 
fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few flower 
macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go back to 
using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would make more 
sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to find and 
produce 5 prints.”
I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 weeks 
after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking for new 
stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and dryer, 
bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can revisit 
that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through

[Larry Colen]

> On May 26, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
> inches inside.

I’m so sorry to hear that.

> So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
> still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
> [Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my 
> five backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll 
> find their fate sometime but not now.]

That is why one of my sets of backups is 600 miles away from here.  


> 
> So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
> that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
> contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? 
> Will you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few 
> flower macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could 
> go back to using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would 
> make more sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to 
> find and produce 5 prints.”
> I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital 
> archives are also toast.

Good luck.

I really think that it ought to be easier/cheaper  to get reasonable quality 
lossless digital files off of negatives.  
> 
> Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
> 3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 
> weeks after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking 
> for new stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and 
> dryer, bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our 
> insurance coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I 
> can revisit that thought about a 645Z...
> Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Word.  I’ve already had my fill of natural disasters for this year.

I hope this settles as painlessly as possible for you.

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RE: A River Runs Through

[jcoyle]

Wow, Stan , that is a huge blow.  My only thought re the negatives is to ensure 
you try to save family ones, as my experience in the last few weeks scanning 
and processing those I brought from my mother's house is that even the most 
seemingly inconsequential one can turn out to be significant.
Do hope the insurance comes through for you.

John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML  On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
Sent: Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:34 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: A River Runs Through 

As some of you know, our home was flooded last week, high water at 27 3/8 
inches inside.
So we have been hauling stuff out, a lot to the curb for trash pickup, much 
still to be sorted, decisions about what to try to preserve/restore...
[Side note. Most of my camera gear was high and dry, my computer also, my five 
backup external drive all had water inside which I poured out. We’ll find their 
fate sometime but not now.]

So, sitting tonight going over tomorrow’s schedule and priorities. I mention 
that I want to tackle the 15-20 binders that hold my sleeved negatives and 
contact prints and selected proof prints. Meg says: “why? Why keep those? Will 
you ever use them?” Hmm, well Meg, you have been after me to print a few flower 
macros and most of my favorites were with the 645. I suppose I could go back to 
using a 645Z and go off looking for flowers. Meg says: “That would make more 
sense than trying to recover those thousands of negatives just to find and 
produce 5 prints.”
I think she has a point. Particularly if it turns out that my digital archives 
are also toast.

Starting next  Monday a professional cleaning crew of 5-6 persons will spend 
3-4 days mitigating the flood damage, sanitizing, and cleaning. Another 2 weeks 
after that of high powered fans for drying. Meanwhile we’ll be looking for new 
stove, refrigerator, furnace/boiler, hot water heaters, washer and dryer, 
bedroom furniture, living room furniture... Assuming that our insurance 
coverage comes through, by July this will mostly be behind us and I can revisit 
that thought about a 645Z...
Thought for the day: avoid floods.

Stan

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Re: A River Runs Through It

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ken.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Hi Dan - Great subject, nice scene but poor light.
>
> Turning this into a 'pano' by cropping horizontally above the tree would
> greatly improve this image, as I don't see the background above the tree
> adding, in fact its a little distracting from the guys fishing.
>
> Kenneth Waller
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>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <
> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> Subject: PESO: A River Runs Through It
>
>
> Fishing near the Rio Grande Gorge:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18302687=lg
>> Comments are invited.
>>
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Re: A River Runs Through It

[Ken Waller]

Hi Dan - Great subject, nice scene but poor light.

Turning this into a 'pano' by cropping horizontally above the tree would 
greatly improve this image, as I don't see the background above the tree 
adding, in fact its a little distracting from the guys fishing.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: PESO: A River Runs Through It



Fishing near the Rio Grande Gorge:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18302687=lg
Comments are invited.

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